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| 93. A Systems-Changing Solution for the OWS Movement? |
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These are great ideas for translating OWS grievances into a legislative agenda. My focus is on circumventing the obstacles that have been erected to prevent voters like OWS members from using the political system to elect lawmakers who will enact their constituents' agendas. Readers might be interested in an article on this subject that I co-authored with fellow political scientist, Joseph M. Firestone, Ph.D. It is entitled, A System-Changing Solution for the OWS Movement?. Feedback and input are most welcome here and at info@reinventdemocracy.net . |
| -Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here? ...a proposal from Michael Moore |
Mira |
Nov-22-11 03:35 PM |
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Thank you Michael Moore... |
ellisonz |
Nov-22-11 03:37 PM |
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Great ideals, Michael. I actually came up with the SAME LIST YEARS AGO |
BanTheGOP |
Nov-23-11 04:22 PM |
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What a fabulous list! nt |
valerief |
Nov-22-11 03:49 PM |
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Michael Moore for President! |
markmyword |
Nov-23-11 01:00 AM |
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Too late to Rec, but recommend and will share the list! Thanks for posting it. |
freshwest |
Nov-23-11 03:50 PM |
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Everything he said is just what needs to be |
Autumn |
Nov-22-11 03:51 PM |
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Goal #9 sounds fascinating... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-22-11 04:14 PM |
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It is already the 99.9%. nt |
Lucky Luciano |
Nov-23-11 03:14 PM |
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There have been bases for such systems in the past. |
Fantastic Anarchist |
Nov-23-11 04:07 PM |
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Looks like a great list of demands |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-22-11 04:21 PM |
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This sounds real good. |
SalviaBlue |
Nov-22-11 04:41 PM |
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Oh wait...more non demands? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-22-11 04:43 PM |
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tax data: Moore's point 1. |
sam11111 |
Nov-22-11 05:31 PM |
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Michael totally gets it. Fingers rolling skyward. nt |
Zorra |
Nov-22-11 05:38 PM |
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He really does. nt |
EFerrari |
Nov-23-11 01:05 AM |
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co ops(point 9)...should apply to ANY size business and employees shd be 60% |
sam11111 |
Nov-22-11 05:50 PM |
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Actually, |
chervilant |
Nov-23-11 10:56 AM |
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SS: his last point ... SS income should equal average US family income- 50K.. financed by the tax |
sam11111 |
Nov-22-11 06:16 PM |
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#2 is slippery |
Courtesy Flush |
Nov-22-11 06:32 PM |
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It might need to be tweaked. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-23-11 09:42 AM |
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What about something that would |
Beavker |
Nov-23-11 03:47 PM |
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Most of those are sensible; 4 and 7 are blinders; 2 and 10c are daft. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Nov-22-11 07:03 PM |
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Speaking as an American |
onpatrol98 |
Nov-23-11 07:11 AM |
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Why do you think those countries have such poor working conditions? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Nov-23-11 09:22 AM |
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Strangle another countries economy? |
onpatrol98 |
Nov-23-11 10:57 PM |
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K&R! |
Enthusiast |
Nov-23-11 09:45 AM |
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+1,000 |
freshwest |
Nov-23-11 03:54 PM |
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So...do you HONESTLY think that OWS is about people's support for neoliberal economics |
Romulox |
Nov-23-11 12:42 PM |
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No, I don't but I think that the impulse to screw the rest of the world to protect America |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Nov-25-11 07:27 AM |
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The devil's in the details... |
hootinholler |
Nov-22-11 07:15 PM |
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Michael asked us to let HIM know what we think. I hope posters with comments go there too. But |
cyberpj |
Nov-22-11 07:54 PM |
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kick |
Zorra |
Nov-22-11 09:24 PM |
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Okay, I teared up. |
woo me with science |
Nov-22-11 09:27 PM |
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Thank you for saying it better than I could. |
russspeakeasy |
Nov-23-11 08:19 AM |
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Me too. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-23-11 09:47 AM |
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HUGE REC. nt |
bertman |
Nov-22-11 10:54 PM |
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Capitalism: A love Story. |
mick063 |
Nov-22-11 11:31 PM |
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Agree, mick063. Also, "Inside Job". If seeing that doesn't piss people off to the point |
bertman |
Nov-23-11 11:27 AM |
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Well, now, |
chervilant |
Nov-23-11 11:29 AM |
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Rec'ed with hopes of more environmental/species stuffs added. |
glinda |
Nov-22-11 11:26 PM |
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Works for me! |
blackspade |
Nov-23-11 12:09 AM |
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that is a pretty good list!! |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-23-11 12:15 AM |
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Wish I could rec this a million times |
BigBearJohn |
Nov-23-11 04:46 AM |
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Moore's list is great ; he asked for suggestions so |
stuffmatters |
Nov-23-11 05:51 AM |
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I like your additions! |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-23-11 12:31 PM |
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I like your adds, I'll add one. |
mick063 |
Nov-24-11 01:35 AM |
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I like you adds, I'll add one. |
mick063 |
Nov-24-11 01:35 AM |
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I'd be thrilled to see any three of those become reality. K&R |
Auggie |
Nov-23-11 07:21 AM |
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Impressive. |
Kaleko |
Nov-23-11 07:45 AM |
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decision by consensus can be tough |
Shanti Mama |
Nov-23-11 07:56 AM |
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I hope he doesn't horn in on the empty leadership position. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-23-11 08:04 AM |
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"this movement's leadership role just might be big enough to accomodate his ego." That's not nice. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Nov-23-11 08:21 AM |
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Take a deep breath! |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-23-11 08:30 AM |
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"My day is now complete." |
Enthusiast |
Nov-23-11 09:52 AM |
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Occupy doesn't need more firebaggers |
mimi85 |
Nov-23-11 04:17 PM |
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What proposals have you hashed out with your fellow citizens to bring to your local GA? |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-23-11 04:22 PM |
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Really? You wince? Horrors. And it is established fact that MM will stop you from going to pee |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-23-11 04:17 PM |
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Actually it's about being polite, even to those who are not. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-24-11 07:20 AM |
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Agreed. |
Myrina |
Nov-23-11 09:07 AM |
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Gosh, Julie... |
chervilant |
Nov-23-11 11:36 AM |
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Agree. Tends to correspond neatly with his "Book Tour 2011", too. |
Romulox |
Nov-23-11 01:03 PM |
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Yes. He and his publisher predicted in advance the OWS movement thus rolling out |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-23-11 04:03 PM |
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Um, perhaps the concept of "opportunism" is new to you. It's not new to Mikey. nt |
Romulox |
Nov-23-11 04:49 PM |
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"But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'." |
Zorra |
Nov-24-11 01:15 AM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Nov-24-11 06:53 PM |
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Terrific. Now let's work to make it happen! |
Scuba |
Nov-23-11 08:57 AM |
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Kick for greater vis. n/t |
Scuba |
Nov-24-11 06:39 AM |
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Kicked and recommended! |
Enthusiast |
Nov-23-11 09:39 AM |
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This one's a winner. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-23-11 09:48 AM |
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K & R! |
lonestarnot |
Nov-23-11 09:53 AM |
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K... |
CJCRANE |
Nov-23-11 11:54 AM |
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Kr...I'm with you MM. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Nov-23-11 12:32 PM |
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It's a compelling list, especially with the three additional suggestions mentioned above. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-23-11 12:34 PM |
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Education is missing on that list |
Hutzpa |
Nov-23-11 12:36 PM |
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Great list. |
DirkGently |
Nov-23-11 12:36 PM |
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"we secure the civil and human rights of all from violation by tyrannical forces and unjust govt's" |
Martin Eden |
Nov-23-11 12:49 PM |
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I agree. |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-23-11 04:04 PM |
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Yep |
kctim |
Nov-23-11 01:00 PM |
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If leadership is ceded right back to the "well meaning" 1%, what is OWS even about? |
Romulox |
Nov-23-11 01:07 PM |
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Leadership hasn't and it won't be. Do people not read? Mike is attending and participating |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-23-11 04:07 PM |
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It's silly to claim that Moore doesn't generate more publicity than "any other GA attendee". |
Romulox |
Nov-23-11 04:48 PM |
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Publicity means squat in the GA. Your ignorance is embarrassing. |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-23-11 11:40 PM |
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Kick and highly recommend! |
davekriss |
Nov-23-11 01:10 PM |
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Something must be done to bring access and balance to the courts. |
nineteen50 |
Nov-23-11 02:48 PM |
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+1 -- Supreme Court, Drug War, Prison system -- !! Completely corrupt systems -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-11 03:44 PM |
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10 (a) 1. That's the key. |
Prometheus Bound |
Nov-23-11 04:00 PM |
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Especially Number 9 |
Fantastic Anarchist |
Nov-23-11 04:02 PM |
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Sounds good dto me. . kick. . .n/t |
annabanana |
Nov-23-11 04:22 PM |
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Good starting points. |
moondust |
Nov-23-11 04:33 PM |
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Here is a list I have been circulating |
LuckyTheDog |
Nov-23-11 08:05 PM |
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Goals great. The vision thing - not so much. I'm almost 60 - "truly free," what does that |
Kashka-Kat |
Nov-23-11 10:43 PM |
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Kicking in agreement & a return to the democracy we once |
mother earth |
Nov-24-11 07:19 AM |
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No I won't have a happy genocide day |
Mosaic |
Nov-24-11 11:28 AM |
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15 of 16 2010 NCAA basketball universities endorse limbaugh/1% by broadcasting on its stations- |
certainot |
Nov-24-11 11:35 AM |
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A Systems-Changing Solution for the OWS Movement? |
NancyBordier |
Nov-24-11 07:57 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
Zorra |
Nov-24-11 08:09 PM |
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Thanks! |
NancyBordier |
Nov-25-11 09:53 PM |
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kick |
Zorra |
Nov-25-11 02:10 PM |
#96 |
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