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DFab420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-11 03:56 PM
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64. Also about my poll, it's the first one I ever made! Haha what a great and strange subject
to pop the poll cherry on.
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  -Which response would you characterize as more out of line? DFab420  Nov-22-11 03:02 PM   #0 
  - Apples and beach balls.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Nov-22-11 03:04 PM   #1 
  - Nah my point is that the Boston massacre response was far and away worse then the PD response.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:08 PM   #5 
     - Well, not to make light of the Boston Massacre - and I don't think anyone is--  The Velveteen Ocelot   Nov-22-11 03:23 PM   #28 
        - very well said. nt  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:55 PM   #62 
  - If you want to believe the fairy tale version of the American Revolution, that is your perogative.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:05 PM   #2 
  - You realize the British Regular riflebutted a young boy first, before the crowd showed up right???  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:10 PM   #10 
  - The British soldiers were not civilian police sworn to protect  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:06 PM   #3 
  - John Adams defended them because no one else would take the case and he felt it was a moral  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:09 PM   #8 
     - Have you read that case? If not you should, John Adams never  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:14 PM   #15 
        - That's exactly what I just said...he defended them on moral principle.do you even read what I write?  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:15 PM   #17 
  - What metric do you think we should use? nt  bemildred   Nov-22-11 03:06 PM   #4 
  - I measure it by lives lost.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:08 PM   #6 
     - "We're not as bad as the Hessians" isn't much of a defense, but OK.  bemildred   Nov-22-11 03:09 PM   #9 
     - Then you might have to suspend your judgment for a while ...  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:11 PM   #12 
     - Lives have been lost as a result of police brutality for years  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:18 PM   #21 
        - Don't misunderstand me. I'm in no way saying what the police are doing is acceptable.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:22 PM   #26 
           - They have leveled guns at protesters, in Chapel Hill airc.  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:30 PM   #33 
           - Go Whole Hog, Doctor: 'Hitler Done Worse, So Quit Yer Bitchin'!'  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:33 PM   #39 
              - Excuse me, that is a wild mischaracterization of the discussion at hand. I simply feel the Boston  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:37 PM   #46 
                 - It is, Doctor, A Precise Distillation Of Your Position's Essence  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:41 PM   #50 
                    - No again, I'm making a point with the words I am saying. You are attributing a differnent point to  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:46 PM   #53 
                       - You Fool No One, Doctor  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:56 PM   #63 
                          - Whatever. You want to be that way fine. nt  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:57 PM   #65 
  - This is what the Massachusetts jury thought ....  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:09 PM   #7 
  - Here's the full story about the trial.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:11 PM   #11 
  - So you bold the part that makes Adams look like a dick.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:15 PM   #16 
  - Hahaha right ok. So the next time the cops use tear gas and say it was because they felt threatend  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:17 PM   #19 
     - I'm not siding with the Red Coats this time. I'm making a comparison.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:19 PM   #24 
        - Agreed. I suppose in our discussion of life lost the miscarriage got looked over.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:26 PM   # 
  - Here's the part you should have bolded:  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:26 PM   #30 
     - I bolded it to show how Adams is a good defense lawyer and used the jury's prejudices to help his  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:26 PM   #31 
  - See, that's why "due process" is so risky  gratuitous   Nov-22-11 03:32 PM   #37 
  - The Second, Doctor: The English Soldiers Had Real Reason To Fear For their Lives  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:12 PM   #13 
  - SO does that make the Kent state shooting ok too?  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:12 PM   #14 
     - Nobody said any of this was ok.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:17 PM   #20 
     - The soldiers at kent were not at arms reach  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 03:18 PM   #23 
     - The Guardsmen At Kent State Were Under No Such Threat, Doctor  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:23 PM   #27 
     - Was the NG under attack by the Kent Students? Were they armed  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:33 PM   #41 
  - Eh, the major difference seems to be that the British troops got tried for what they did..  Fumesucker   Nov-22-11 03:15 PM   #18 
  - If only the police would be put on trial...  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:18 PM   #22 
  - Lemme see  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 03:22 PM   #25 
  - Really? You really think if the UC Davis police had opened fire into the crowd, even if it was  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:24 PM   #29 
  - straw man  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:29 PM   #32 
  - No straw man. I was asking if the UCDavis cops faced the same situation  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:31 PM   #35 
     - It would be the same.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:33 PM   #40 
     - If 7 or 8 UC cops had been surrounded by 300 angry students  The Velveteen Ocelot   Nov-22-11 03:35 PM   #42 
        - Even live ammo  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 03:36 PM   #45 
  - If there Was A Real Threat, Sir, Many Here Would Acknowledge That fact  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:30 PM   #34 
  - +1  freshwest   Nov-23-11 10:52 AM   #73 
  - I am telling you how the use of force protocol works.  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 03:32 PM   #38 
     - I do, again I'm not trying to say what the police did was right. In any way shape or form  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:35 PM   #44 
        - Informed opinion is what you just got  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 03:38 PM   #47 
           - But Of Course, Ma'am, Informed Opinion And Judgement was Not Really What He was Looking For....  The Magistrate   Nov-22-11 03:44 PM   #52 
           - Dude, who the fuck are you to go around telling other people what I am talking about.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:50 PM   #55 
              - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-22-11 03:58 PM   #66 
           - See, great position, well thought out and clear. And you didn't even have to insult the other person  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:47 PM   #54 
  - The UC Davis cops didn't need to arrest anyone.  Eric J in MN   Nov-22-11 04:14 PM   #70 
     - I am just pointing out that from a use of force perspective  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 04:19 PM   #72 
  - Change British Regulars to American Soldiers.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:31 PM   #36 
  - Well said n/t  sabrina 1   Nov-22-11 03:35 PM   #43 
  - I have been tear gassed and I have been shot. At least in terms of which I prefer ...  11 Bravo   Nov-22-11 03:38 PM   #48 
  - So you would want to get shot right?? j/k j/k  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:54 PM   #60 
  - You've got to love DU, though.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:40 PM   #49 
  - haha truth. I do enjoy some of the debates here.  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:53 PM   #57 
     - You know I love you.  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:53 PM   #59 
        - yay!  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:54 PM   #61 
  - The Redcoats were actually under attack. The cops weren't.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-22-11 03:41 PM   #51 
  - Oh, and about your poll ....  dawg   Nov-22-11 03:52 PM   #56 
  - DOH!  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:53 PM   #58 
  - Also about my poll, it's the first one I ever made! Haha what a great and strange subject  DFab420   Nov-22-11 03:56 PM   #64 
  - Sorry, but there have been literally DOZENS of events worst than U.C. Davis...  MarkCharles   Nov-22-11 04:06 PM   #67 
  - Agreed, while the pepper spraying was terrible there sure  treestar   Nov-22-11 04:08 PM   #68 
  - American Exceptionalism at it's best  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-22-11 04:16 PM   #71 
  - To say: At least the Oakland cops didn't kill any protesters that night...  Eric J in MN   Nov-22-11 04:12 PM   #69 
 

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