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Tue Nov-22-11 09:53 AM
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| -President Obama's Gallup approval rating among liberal Democrats for November 14th-20th is 84%. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 12:35 PM |
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2nd rec |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 12:36 PM |
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Being Unrec'd as we speak, just rec'd it back to +1. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Nov-21-11 12:39 PM |
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sorry, replied to your post nm |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 01:43 PM |
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Hooray! eom |
City Lights |
Nov-21-11 12:38 PM |
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but...but..but...Are they PROGRESSIVE liberals? |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 12:44 PM |
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Ha! Between this and the story that the president's support from his base is every bit as solid |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 02:54 PM |
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There will be blankie clutching and thumb sucking, fer sure. |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 03:20 PM |
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See: About halfway down this very thread |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 04:53 PM |
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Right after I made my post I saw the typical..Those aren't REeeeALLY liberals |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 05:22 PM |
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Half the posts in each of these threads question the liberal "credentials" of the people polled |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 05:42 PM |
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Pretty solid numbers there. |
Rex |
Nov-21-11 12:46 PM |
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There were "subtle" cheers here when it dropped from 83 to 80. I'm loving this. So's he > > |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 12:47 PM |
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Nice pic |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 03:21 PM |
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yahooo |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 12:47 PM |
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.............. |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 12:47 PM |
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So what does that prove other than the bulk of |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 12:48 PM |
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That argument was ridiculous when it first came up. And it hasn't aged well. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 12:52 PM |
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OK, let me just check my definition of liberal then. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 12:54 PM |
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It would suck living in a country where that had happened. Fortunately, we don't. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 12:59 PM |
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There has been an escalation in Afghanistan. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:17 PM |
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Again, you're simply wrong on the facts. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:38 PM |
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Apparently numbers are very hard for you. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:47 PM |
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Guardian: "Afghanistan withdrawal: Barack Obama says 33,000 troops will leave next year" |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:07 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:09 PM |
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Actually, you're asserting something which I never said in order to move the goalposts. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:11 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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No, actually I never said anything of the kind. I said the US is withdrawing from Afghanistan. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:17 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:20 PM |
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As I said, your definition of "escalating wars" apparently means "withdrawing from them." |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:23 PM |
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But troop levels have increased significantly under Obama. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:28 PM |
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Troop levels in Afghanistan rose dramatically under Obama. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:29 PM |
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"You said there was not a surge or escalation." |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 02:58 PM |
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Yes, post 17. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 03:56 PM |
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No, what he said was this |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 04:43 PM |
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He's saying the war is being ended, not escalated. That's entirely untrue. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
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Crickets? Hard to face the facts, huh? |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:05 PM |
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Ha, that's funny, |
progressoid |
Nov-21-11 01:35 PM |
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Then I wait for you to define a liberal and/or what liberals think |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 04:43 PM |
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Perhaps it means that they know where the real problem lies? |
Old and In the Way |
Nov-21-11 12:53 PM |
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We had a majority of Democrats in the house and senate. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 12:55 PM |
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It didn't get us anywhere? Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us? nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 12:57 PM |
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Lemme see, we got mandatory insurance coverage. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:18 PM |
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Apparently you've been listening strictly to Republican spin for three years. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:50 PM |
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Wow! So the past 3 years haven't entirely been the RW's wet dream! |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:52 PM |
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The fact is, you're completely unable to cite facts to back up your claims. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:55 PM |
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You're the one who's ignoring my facts. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:56 PM |
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You make assertions which aren't reality based. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:00 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:04 PM |
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Fact, troop levels are around 50% higher in Afghanistan than when Obama took office. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 03:55 PM |
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Hmmmm, facts. Lemme see. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:01 PM |
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Three "facts" which are completely false. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:06 PM |
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Wow, incredibly sad. You are aware that TARP was BEFORE the bank bailout, right? |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:11 PM |
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Don't worry EOTE - you are completely right in your position |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:13 PM |
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Thanks, but it's so sad to see "liberal" bastardized to such an extent. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:34 PM |
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You still can't post a single link in support of this supposed trillion dollar bailout. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:20 PM |
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You still can't admit that troop levels increased significantly under Obama. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:26 PM |
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No he does not |
treestar |
Nov-21-11 03:58 PM |
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So in your world, banks did not receive $100s of billions and Afghanistan did NOT get |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 04:04 PM |
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In my world, as Wraith already explained |
treestar |
Nov-21-11 04:33 PM |
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Do you think TARP money is all there is? |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 04:38 PM |
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But they were able to keep their powder incredibly dry... |
truebrit71 |
Nov-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Well, that's true. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:19 PM |
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Yup |
gratuitous |
Nov-21-11 12:56 PM |
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And you do? I don't think so. |
MineralMan |
Nov-21-11 01:59 PM |
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Yes. I know that "liberal" does not mean sending tens of thousands of additional troops |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:07 PM |
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You don't know jack, because liberals are not a monolith. We are |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 05:30 PM |
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Yeah, so you think that liberals can hold almost exclusively right wing views? |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 08:56 AM |
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Who gets to decide who a "real" liberal is? Not you. |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 03:26 PM |
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So apparently a "real" liberal is one who supports trickle-down economics |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 03:58 PM |
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Liberals are not a monolith. We are liberals BECAUSE of our |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 05:31 PM |
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Ahhh, so liberals support trickle-down economics and preemptive wars. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
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The support whatever they want to support without being dictated too.. |
Kahuna |
Nov-22-11 12:25 PM |
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"liberal" is not some amorphous term which changes with the wind. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 12:29 PM |
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Get over yourself already. I've been a register democrat for 39 years, |
Kahuna |
Nov-22-11 12:49 PM |
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Don't worry, there are plenty of democrats who have no idea what the word "liberal" means. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 12:51 PM |
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Nov-21-11 12:57 PM |
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I'm a liberal. An informed liberal. |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 01:02 PM |
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Do you mean that or did you forget your sarcasm tag? |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:03 PM |
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I'm totally serious |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:05 PM |
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Sure, even if it is uniformed that's fine nt |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:07 PM |
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You can have your opinion, I have mine |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:09 PM |
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You just happen to agree with the Republicans |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:12 PM |
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Obama has been a terrible president |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:13 PM |
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But you don't have the right to redefine "liberal" or insult the people who disagree with you. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:09 PM |
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But you do? Pot, meet kettle. How is stating people are uninformed insulting? Call it like I see it |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:10 PM |
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Pointing out facts is not an insult. You are not entitled to your own facts. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Your so called facts are highly suspect |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:13 PM |
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To believe what you do, you have to posit a massive grassroots conspiracy to sway a poll. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:40 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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Actually, I am. And again, you don't define what is a "liberal." |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:19 PM |
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So you approve of Obama giving tax cuts to the top 1%, covering up the Bush era War Crimes, |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:20 PM |
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I feel badly for you that you're unable to hold a balanced, factually accurate view of the world. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:24 PM |
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Mine is crystal clear |
slay |
Nov-21-11 03:39 PM |
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Translation: "Yes" nt |
Electric Monk |
Nov-21-11 06:22 PM |
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Liberals support a progressive tax code. They are generally against unjust wars, too. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:39 PM |
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that is honest to goodness what most dems I personally know say, too. |
Divine Discontent |
Nov-21-11 01:36 PM |
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Couldn't have said it better myself. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:48 PM |
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Exactly. |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 01:52 PM |
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Nov-21-11 01:05 PM |
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And like all the other polls, it proves what? |
hobbit709 |
Nov-21-11 01:09 PM |
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In this case, that President Obama still has the steadfast support of liberal Democrats. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Nov-21-11 01:15 PM |
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His overall approval rating is 43% |
Lasher |
Nov-21-11 01:14 PM |
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I'm trying to understand what is the importance of this poll:. 84 percent of his fans approve him. |
BoWanZi |
Nov-21-11 01:15 PM |
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I woudl agree, except for |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 01:18 PM |
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I absolutely LOVE how those goal posts keep moving in this thread |
Number23 |
Nov-22-11 05:16 PM |
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+1 |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:20 PM |
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But... but... who defines them sa liberals? |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 01:15 PM |
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I advise against applying at DU |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:46 PM |
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K&R...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-21-11 01:38 PM |
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Yeah, "liberal Democrats." |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 01:44 PM |
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Thank you |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:47 PM |
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Well said! |
Desertrose |
Nov-21-11 01:52 PM |
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Newsflash: you do not define what a liberal is. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:56 PM |
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Newsflash: Neither do you |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:07 PM |
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Unlike you, I never pretended to. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:12 PM |
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Liberals don't ignore facts like how Obama covered up the Bush war crimes, tax cuts for the top 1% |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:17 PM |
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How is that relevant? One can disagree with Obama's policies and still approve of him. |
joshcryer |
Nov-22-11 01:58 AM |
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I don't need to define anything except the liberal platform |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 02:11 PM |
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First off, half of what you list is not true. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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Yeah, right |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 02:27 PM |
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These are the same people who let the teabaggers get out 9% more votes than we did. |
joshcryer |
Nov-22-11 01:59 AM |
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Comments such as this are absolutely AMAZING |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 02:02 PM |
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Again with the "define liberal" crap. |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 02:13 PM |
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You do not have to define it |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 02:46 PM |
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If your choices for Senator were ... Liddy Dole or Kay Hagen ... what do you do? |
JoePhilly |
Nov-21-11 05:08 PM |
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Center Democrats have successfully moved the Democratic Party to the right, and now |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-21-11 06:45 PM |
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Open question: Did Gallup ask the same poll question during the Clinton years? |
yodermon |
Nov-21-11 01:53 PM |
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Not sure, but if they did, it's not available via their Presidential Job Approval Center. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:59 PM |
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The more who approve of our moderately conservative President, the better. |
dawg |
Nov-21-11 01:55 PM |
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At least you're realistic about the situation |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:12 PM |
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Exactly! |
BoWanZi |
Nov-21-11 03:51 PM |
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The alternative could be |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 04:50 PM |
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K&R. |
MineralMan |
Nov-21-11 01:58 PM |
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wonder what his approval rating is among DU socialists? |
DCBob |
Nov-21-11 02:21 PM |
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Yep. nt |
sufrommich |
Nov-21-11 02:30 PM |
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Holy sh*t! Rec #14!!!!! |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 02:53 PM |
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Good news. |
Scurrilous |
Nov-21-11 02:56 PM |
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You're such a shit-stirrer..... |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 02:57 PM |
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When he took office his approval rating among the same group was 88% |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-21-11 03:01 PM |
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I think most liberals recognize that he's making the best out of his situation. |
pnwmom |
Nov-21-11 03:31 PM |
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Rec. |
treestar |
Nov-21-11 03:56 PM |
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KnR ... Thanks for the post. |
lpbk2713 |
Nov-21-11 04:17 PM |
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What is your approval rating among DU posters? n/t |
Chan790 |
Nov-21-11 04:51 PM |
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Probably less than 30%. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 04:57 PM |
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On the bright side, that makes you substantially more popular than Congress. |
Chan790 |
Nov-21-11 05:04 PM |
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It would be interesting to see if that were true. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 05:05 PM |
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I'll get a taste of that tonight... |
zanana1 |
Nov-21-11 04:55 PM |
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Same here. Fired up and ready to go. |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 05:24 PM |
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I just got back from making phone calls for Obama. |
zanana1 |
Nov-21-11 07:44 PM |
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super to hear! |
flamingdem |
Nov-22-11 01:29 AM |
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I think the reality of what you're experiencing is much more real than the alternative reality |
Number23 |
Nov-22-11 05:13 PM |
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How many liberals were polled?? |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 05:20 PM |
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no doubt |
Broderick |
Nov-21-11 05:21 PM |
#134 |
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Clearly less than 15% or so |
ThomWV |
Nov-21-11 05:24 PM |
#136 |
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So odd how you pop up every few days to tell us how we feel about the president. |
TroglodyteScholar |
Nov-21-11 05:37 PM |
#140 |
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Why is it odd to report on the popularity of a democratic |
sufrommich |
Nov-21-11 05:48 PM |
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then maybe he should take a poll here |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 06:11 PM |
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You clicked on it. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 06:00 PM |
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Thanks for reminding me... |
TroglodyteScholar |
Nov-21-11 06:14 PM |
#145 |
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Thanks |
MissDeeds |
Nov-21-11 06:29 PM |
#147 |
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What is his approval rating among far left Democrats? |
Modern_Matthew |
Nov-22-11 01:31 AM |
#151 |
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The far left aren't Democrats. |
joshcryer |
Nov-22-11 02:01 AM |
#154 |
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K & R! |
lonestarnot |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
#156 |
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Neoliberals. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-22-11 09:53 AM |
#158 |
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I think allot of Liberal democrats stopped identify themselves as liberal democrats |
TNLib |
Nov-22-11 05:35 PM |
#165 |
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