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96. But troop levels have increased significantly under Obama.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 02:30 PM by EOTE
"Non combat" troops are still in Iraq, and will be for quite some time to come. The only thing is that there's really no way for anyone to discern these non-combat troops from military ones. And troop levels in Afghanistan are about 50% higher than they were under bush. Regardless of what Obama says will be done next year, three years with levels 50% higher than bush is fucking unforgivable. This is a war we never should have been apart of. You said there was no escalation. That's a lie and you know it. Of course you're completely willing to ignore that. You think this president is a liberal. What a joke.\

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  -President Obama's Gallup approval rating among liberal Democrats for November 14th-20th is 84%. LoZoccolo  Nov-21-11 12:35 PM   #0 
  - 2nd rec  lamp_shade   Nov-21-11 12:36 PM   #1 
  - Being Unrec'd as we speak, just rec'd it back to +1.  Tarheel_Dem   Nov-21-11 12:39 PM   #3 
  - sorry, replied to your post nm  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 01:43 PM   #47 
  - Hooray! eom  City Lights   Nov-21-11 12:38 PM   #2 
  - but...but..but...Are they PROGRESSIVE liberals?  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 12:44 PM   #4 
  - Ha! Between this and the story that the president's support from his base is every bit as solid  Number23   Nov-21-11 02:54 PM   #103 
     - There will be blankie clutching and thumb sucking, fer sure.  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 03:20 PM   #108 
        - See: About halfway down this very thread  Number23   Nov-21-11 04:53 PM   #127 
           - Right after I made my post I saw the typical..Those aren't REeeeALLY liberals  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 05:22 PM   #135 
              - Half the posts in each of these threads question the liberal "credentials" of the people polled  Number23   Nov-21-11 05:42 PM   #141 
  - Pretty solid numbers there.  Rex   Nov-21-11 12:46 PM   #5 
  - There were "subtle" cheers here when it dropped from 83 to 80. I'm loving this. So's he > >  lamp_shade   Nov-21-11 12:47 PM   #6 
  - Nice pic  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 03:21 PM   #109 
  - yahooo  flamingdem   Nov-21-11 12:47 PM   #7 
  - ..............  Angry Dragon   Nov-21-11 12:47 PM   #8 
  - So what does that prove other than the bulk of  EOTE   Nov-21-11 12:48 PM   #9 
  - That argument was ridiculous when it first came up. And it hasn't aged well.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 12:52 PM   #10 
  - OK, let me just check my definition of liberal then.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 12:54 PM   #12 
  - It would suck living in a country where that had happened. Fortunately, we don't.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 12:59 PM   #17 
     - There has been an escalation in Afghanistan.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:17 PM   #37 
     - Again, you're simply wrong on the facts.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:38 PM   #44 
        - Apparently numbers are very hard for you.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:47 PM   #50 
        - Guardian: "Afghanistan withdrawal: Barack Obama says 33,000 troops will leave next year"  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:07 PM   #72 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-11 02:09 PM   #74 
              - Actually, you're asserting something which I never said in order to move the goalposts.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:11 PM   #75 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-11 02:15 PM   #84 
                 - No, actually I never said anything of the kind. I said the US is withdrawing from Afghanistan.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:17 PM   #85 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-11 02:20 PM   #88 
                       - As I said, your definition of "escalating wars" apparently means "withdrawing from them."  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:23 PM   #92 
                          - But troop levels have increased significantly under Obama.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:28 PM   #96 
                          - Troop levels in Afghanistan rose dramatically under Obama.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:29 PM   #97 
              - "You said there was not a surge or escalation."  Number23   Nov-21-11 02:58 PM   #106 
                 - Yes, post 17.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 03:56 PM   #116 
                    - No, what he said was this  Number23   Nov-21-11 04:43 PM   #124 
                       - He's saying the war is being ended, not escalated. That's entirely untrue.  EOTE   Nov-22-11 08:53 AM   #155 
        - Crickets? Hard to face the facts, huh?  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:05 PM   #69 
     - Ha, that's funny,  progressoid   Nov-21-11 01:35 PM   #42 
  - Then I wait for you to define a liberal and/or what liberals think  Angry Dragon   Nov-21-11 04:43 PM   #123 
  - Perhaps it means that they know where the real problem lies?  Old and In the Way   Nov-21-11 12:53 PM   #11 
  - We had a majority of Democrats in the house and senate.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 12:55 PM   #13 
     - It didn't get us anywhere? Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us? nt  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 12:57 PM   #15 
     - Lemme see, we got mandatory insurance coverage.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:18 PM   #39 
     - Apparently you've been listening strictly to Republican spin for three years.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:50 PM   #53 
        - Wow! So the past 3 years haven't entirely been the RW's wet dream!  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:52 PM   #55 
           - The fact is, you're completely unable to cite facts to back up your claims.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:55 PM   #58 
              - You're the one who's ignoring my facts.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:56 PM   #60 
              - You make assertions which aren't reality based.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:00 PM   #65 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-21-11 02:04 PM   #68 
                 - Fact, troop levels are around 50% higher in Afghanistan than when Obama took office.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 03:55 PM   #114 
              - Hmmmm, facts. Lemme see.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:01 PM   #66 
                 - Three "facts" which are completely false.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:06 PM   #70 
                    - Wow, incredibly sad. You are aware that TARP was BEFORE the bank bailout, right?  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:11 PM   #76 
                       - Don't worry EOTE - you are completely right in your position  slay   Nov-21-11 02:13 PM   #81 
                       - Thanks, but it's so sad to see "liberal" bastardized to such an extent.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:34 PM   #99 
                       - You still can't post a single link in support of this supposed trillion dollar bailout.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:20 PM   #89 
                          - You still can't admit that troop levels increased significantly under Obama.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:26 PM   #94 
     - No he does not  treestar   Nov-21-11 03:58 PM   #118 
        - So in your world, banks did not receive $100s of billions and Afghanistan did NOT get  EOTE   Nov-21-11 04:04 PM   #119 
           - In my world, as Wraith already explained  treestar   Nov-21-11 04:33 PM   #121 
              - Do you think TARP money is all there is?  EOTE   Nov-21-11 04:38 PM   #122 
     - But they were able to keep their powder incredibly dry...  truebrit71   Nov-21-11 01:11 PM   #28 
        - Well, that's true.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:19 PM   #40 
  - Yup  gratuitous   Nov-21-11 12:56 PM   #14 
  - And you do? I don't think so.  MineralMan   Nov-21-11 01:59 PM   #64 
  - Yes. I know that "liberal" does not mean sending tens of thousands of additional troops  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:07 PM   #73 
     - You don't know jack, because liberals are not a monolith. We are  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 05:30 PM   #138 
        - Yeah, so you think that liberals can hold almost exclusively right wing views?  EOTE   Nov-22-11 08:56 AM   #157 
  - Who gets to decide who a "real" liberal is? Not you.  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 03:26 PM   #110 
     - So apparently a "real" liberal is one who supports trickle-down economics  EOTE   Nov-21-11 03:58 PM   #117 
        - Liberals are not a monolith. We are liberals BECAUSE of our  Kahuna   Nov-21-11 05:31 PM   #139 
           - Ahhh, so liberals support trickle-down economics and preemptive wars.  EOTE   Nov-22-11 08:53 AM   # 
              - The support whatever they want to support without being dictated too..  Kahuna   Nov-22-11 12:25 PM   #159 
                 - "liberal" is not some amorphous term which changes with the wind.  EOTE   Nov-22-11 12:29 PM   #160 
                    - Get over yourself already. I've been a register democrat for 39 years,  Kahuna   Nov-22-11 12:49 PM   #161 
                       - Don't worry, there are plenty of democrats who have no idea what the word "liberal" means.  EOTE   Nov-22-11 12:51 PM   #162 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-11 12:57 PM   #16 
  - I'm a liberal. An informed liberal.  lamp_shade   Nov-21-11 01:02 PM   #18 
  - Do you mean that or did you forget your sarcasm tag?  flamingdem   Nov-21-11 01:03 PM   #19 
  - I'm totally serious  slay   Nov-21-11 01:05 PM   #20 
     - Sure, even if it is uniformed that's fine nt  flamingdem   Nov-21-11 01:07 PM   #22 
     - You can have your opinion, I have mine  slay   Nov-21-11 01:09 PM   #25 
        - You just happen to agree with the Republicans  flamingdem   Nov-21-11 01:12 PM   #30 
           - Obama has been a terrible president  slay   Nov-21-11 01:13 PM   #32 
     - But you don't have the right to redefine "liberal" or insult the people who disagree with you.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:09 PM   #24 
        - But you do? Pot, meet kettle. How is stating people are uninformed insulting? Call it like I see it  slay   Nov-21-11 01:10 PM   #26 
           - Pointing out facts is not an insult. You are not entitled to your own facts.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:11 PM   #29 
              - Your so called facts are highly suspect  slay   Nov-21-11 01:13 PM   #31 
                 - To believe what you do, you have to posit a massive grassroots conspiracy to sway a poll.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:40 PM   #46 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-11 02:15 PM   #83 
                       - Actually, I am. And again, you don't define what is a "liberal."  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:19 PM   #87 
                          - So you approve of Obama giving tax cuts to the top 1%, covering up the Bush era War Crimes,  slay   Nov-21-11 02:20 PM   #90 
                          - I feel badly for you that you're unable to hold a balanced, factually accurate view of the world.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:24 PM   #93 
                             - Mine is crystal clear  slay   Nov-21-11 03:39 PM   #112 
                             - Translation: "Yes" nt  Electric Monk   Nov-21-11 06:22 PM   #146 
                          - Liberals support a progressive tax code. They are generally against unjust wars, too.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 02:39 PM   #100 
  - that is honest to goodness what most dems I personally know say, too.  Divine Discontent   Nov-21-11 01:36 PM   #43 
  - Couldn't have said it better myself.  EOTE   Nov-21-11 01:48 PM   #52 
  - Exactly.  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 01:52 PM   #56 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-21-11 01:05 PM   #21 
  - And like all the other polls, it proves what?  hobbit709   Nov-21-11 01:09 PM   #23 
  - In this case, that President Obama still has the steadfast support of liberal Democrats.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:11 PM   #27 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-21-11 01:15 PM   #34 
  - His overall approval rating is 43%  Lasher   Nov-21-11 01:14 PM   #33 
  - I'm trying to understand what is the importance of this poll:. 84 percent of his fans approve him.  BoWanZi   Nov-21-11 01:15 PM   #35 
  - I woudl agree, except for  Inuca   Nov-21-11 01:18 PM   #38 
  - I absolutely LOVE how those goal posts keep moving in this thread  Number23   Nov-22-11 05:16 PM   #164 
  - +1  slay   Nov-21-11 01:20 PM   #41 
  - But... but... who defines them sa liberals?  Inuca   Nov-21-11 01:15 PM   #36 
  - I advise against applying at DU  flamingdem   Nov-21-11 01:46 PM   #49 
  - K&R...nt  SidDithers   Nov-21-11 01:38 PM   #45 
  - Yeah, "liberal Democrats."  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 01:44 PM   #48 
  - Thank you  slay   Nov-21-11 01:47 PM   #51 
  - Well said!  Desertrose   Nov-21-11 01:52 PM   #54 
  - Newsflash: you do not define what a liberal is.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:56 PM   #61 
  - Newsflash: Neither do you  slay   Nov-21-11 02:07 PM   #71 
  - Unlike you, I never pretended to.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:12 PM   #79 
     - Liberals don't ignore facts like how Obama covered up the Bush war crimes, tax cuts for the top 1%  slay   Nov-21-11 02:17 PM   #86 
        - How is that relevant? One can disagree with Obama's policies and still approve of him.  joshcryer   Nov-22-11 01:58 AM   #152 
  - I don't need to define anything except the liberal platform  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 02:11 PM   #77 
     - First off, half of what you list is not true.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 02:15 PM   #82 
        - Yeah, right  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 02:27 PM   #95 
        - These are the same people who let the teabaggers get out 9% more votes than we did.  joshcryer   Nov-22-11 01:59 AM   #153 
  - Comments such as this are absolutely AMAZING  Inuca   Nov-21-11 02:02 PM   #67 
  - Again with the "define liberal" crap.  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 02:13 PM   #80 
     - You do not have to define it  Inuca   Nov-21-11 02:46 PM   #101 
  - If your choices for Senator were ... Liddy Dole or Kay Hagen ... what do you do?  JoePhilly   Nov-21-11 05:08 PM   #132 
  - Center Democrats have successfully moved the Democratic Party to the right, and now  NorthCarolina   Nov-21-11 06:45 PM   #148 
  - Open question: Did Gallup ask the same poll question during the Clinton years?  yodermon   Nov-21-11 01:53 PM   #57 
  - Not sure, but if they did, it's not available via their Presidential Job Approval Center.  TheWraith   Nov-21-11 01:59 PM   #63 
  - The more who approve of our moderately conservative President, the better.  dawg   Nov-21-11 01:55 PM   #59 
  - At least you're realistic about the situation  slay   Nov-21-11 02:12 PM   #78 
  - Exactly!  BoWanZi   Nov-21-11 03:51 PM   #113 
  - The alternative could be  AmericaIsGreat   Nov-21-11 04:50 PM   #125 
  - K&R.  MineralMan   Nov-21-11 01:58 PM   #62 
  - wonder what his approval rating is among DU socialists?  DCBob   Nov-21-11 02:21 PM   #91 
  - Yep. nt  sufrommich   Nov-21-11 02:30 PM   #98 
  - Holy sh*t! Rec #14!!!!!  Number23   Nov-21-11 02:53 PM   #102 
  - Good news.  Scurrilous   Nov-21-11 02:56 PM   #104 
  - You're such a shit-stirrer.....  lamp_shade   Nov-21-11 02:57 PM   #105 
  - When he took office his approval rating among the same group was 88%  NNN0LHI   Nov-21-11 03:01 PM   #107 
  - I think most liberals recognize that he's making the best out of his situation.  pnwmom   Nov-21-11 03:31 PM   #111 
  - Rec.  treestar   Nov-21-11 03:56 PM   #115 
  - KnR ... Thanks for the post.  lpbk2713   Nov-21-11 04:17 PM   #120 
  - What is your approval rating among DU posters? n/t  Chan790   Nov-21-11 04:51 PM   #126 
  - Probably less than 30%.  LoZoccolo   Nov-21-11 04:57 PM   #129 
     - On the bright side, that makes you substantially more popular than Congress.  Chan790   Nov-21-11 05:04 PM   #130 
        - It would be interesting to see if that were true.  LoZoccolo   Nov-21-11 05:05 PM   #131 
  - I'll get a taste of that tonight...  zanana1   Nov-21-11 04:55 PM   #128 
  - Same here. Fired up and ready to go.  lamp_shade   Nov-21-11 05:24 PM   #137 
     - I just got back from making phone calls for Obama.  zanana1   Nov-21-11 07:44 PM   #149 
        - super to hear!  flamingdem   Nov-22-11 01:29 AM   #150 
        - I think the reality of what you're experiencing is much more real than the alternative reality  Number23   Nov-22-11 05:13 PM   #163 
  - How many liberals were polled??  Angry Dragon   Nov-21-11 05:20 PM   #133 
  - no doubt  Broderick   Nov-21-11 05:21 PM   #134 
  - Clearly less than 15% or so  ThomWV   Nov-21-11 05:24 PM   #136 
  - So odd how you pop up every few days to tell us how we feel about the president.  TroglodyteScholar   Nov-21-11 05:37 PM   #140 
  - Why is it odd to report on the popularity of a democratic  sufrommich   Nov-21-11 05:48 PM   #142 
  - then maybe he should take a poll here  Angry Dragon   Nov-21-11 06:11 PM   #144 
  - You clicked on it.  LoZoccolo   Nov-21-11 06:00 PM   #143 
     - Thanks for reminding me...  TroglodyteScholar   Nov-21-11 06:14 PM   #145 
  - Thanks  MissDeeds   Nov-21-11 06:29 PM   #147 
  - What is his approval rating among far left Democrats?  Modern_Matthew   Nov-22-11 01:31 AM   #151 
  - The far left aren't Democrats.  joshcryer   Nov-22-11 02:01 AM   #154 
  - K & R!  lonestarnot   Nov-22-11 08:53 AM   #156 
  - Neoliberals. nt  LWolf   Nov-22-11 09:53 AM   #158 
  - I think allot of Liberal democrats stopped identify themselves as liberal democrats  TNLib   Nov-22-11 05:35 PM   #165 

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