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Mon Nov-21-11 01:56 PM
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| 60. You're the one who's ignoring my facts. |
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Frankly, those little tossed bones mean nothing compared to the trillions of dollars spent moving money to the wealthiest amongst us and tens of thousands of additional troops. But you ignore those facts because they're not convenient. Still intent to say that there hasn't been a massive troop increase in Afghanistan?
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| -President Obama's Gallup approval rating among liberal Democrats for November 14th-20th is 84%. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 12:35 PM |
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2nd rec |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 12:36 PM |
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Being Unrec'd as we speak, just rec'd it back to +1. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Nov-21-11 12:39 PM |
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sorry, replied to your post nm |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 01:43 PM |
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Hooray! eom |
City Lights |
Nov-21-11 12:38 PM |
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but...but..but...Are they PROGRESSIVE liberals? |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 12:44 PM |
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Ha! Between this and the story that the president's support from his base is every bit as solid |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 02:54 PM |
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There will be blankie clutching and thumb sucking, fer sure. |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 03:20 PM |
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See: About halfway down this very thread |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 04:53 PM |
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Right after I made my post I saw the typical..Those aren't REeeeALLY liberals |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 05:22 PM |
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Half the posts in each of these threads question the liberal "credentials" of the people polled |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 05:42 PM |
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Pretty solid numbers there. |
Rex |
Nov-21-11 12:46 PM |
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There were "subtle" cheers here when it dropped from 83 to 80. I'm loving this. So's he > > |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 12:47 PM |
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Nice pic |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 03:21 PM |
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yahooo |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 12:47 PM |
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.............. |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 12:47 PM |
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So what does that prove other than the bulk of |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 12:48 PM |
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That argument was ridiculous when it first came up. And it hasn't aged well. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 12:52 PM |
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OK, let me just check my definition of liberal then. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 12:54 PM |
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It would suck living in a country where that had happened. Fortunately, we don't. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 12:59 PM |
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There has been an escalation in Afghanistan. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:17 PM |
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Again, you're simply wrong on the facts. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:38 PM |
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Apparently numbers are very hard for you. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:47 PM |
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Guardian: "Afghanistan withdrawal: Barack Obama says 33,000 troops will leave next year" |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:07 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:09 PM |
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Actually, you're asserting something which I never said in order to move the goalposts. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:11 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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No, actually I never said anything of the kind. I said the US is withdrawing from Afghanistan. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:17 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:20 PM |
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As I said, your definition of "escalating wars" apparently means "withdrawing from them." |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:23 PM |
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But troop levels have increased significantly under Obama. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:28 PM |
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Troop levels in Afghanistan rose dramatically under Obama. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:29 PM |
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"You said there was not a surge or escalation." |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 02:58 PM |
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Yes, post 17. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 03:56 PM |
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No, what he said was this |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 04:43 PM |
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He's saying the war is being ended, not escalated. That's entirely untrue. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
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Crickets? Hard to face the facts, huh? |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:05 PM |
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Ha, that's funny, |
progressoid |
Nov-21-11 01:35 PM |
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Then I wait for you to define a liberal and/or what liberals think |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 04:43 PM |
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Perhaps it means that they know where the real problem lies? |
Old and In the Way |
Nov-21-11 12:53 PM |
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We had a majority of Democrats in the house and senate. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 12:55 PM |
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It didn't get us anywhere? Do you live on the same planet as the rest of us? nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 12:57 PM |
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Lemme see, we got mandatory insurance coverage. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:18 PM |
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Apparently you've been listening strictly to Republican spin for three years. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:50 PM |
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Wow! So the past 3 years haven't entirely been the RW's wet dream! |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:52 PM |
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The fact is, you're completely unable to cite facts to back up your claims. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:55 PM |
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You're the one who's ignoring my facts. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:56 PM |
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You make assertions which aren't reality based. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:00 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:04 PM |
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Fact, troop levels are around 50% higher in Afghanistan than when Obama took office. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 03:55 PM |
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Hmmmm, facts. Lemme see. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:01 PM |
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Three "facts" which are completely false. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:06 PM |
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Wow, incredibly sad. You are aware that TARP was BEFORE the bank bailout, right? |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:11 PM |
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Don't worry EOTE - you are completely right in your position |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:13 PM |
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Thanks, but it's so sad to see "liberal" bastardized to such an extent. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:34 PM |
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You still can't post a single link in support of this supposed trillion dollar bailout. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:20 PM |
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You still can't admit that troop levels increased significantly under Obama. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:26 PM |
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No he does not |
treestar |
Nov-21-11 03:58 PM |
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So in your world, banks did not receive $100s of billions and Afghanistan did NOT get |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 04:04 PM |
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In my world, as Wraith already explained |
treestar |
Nov-21-11 04:33 PM |
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Do you think TARP money is all there is? |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 04:38 PM |
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But they were able to keep their powder incredibly dry... |
truebrit71 |
Nov-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Well, that's true. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:19 PM |
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Yup |
gratuitous |
Nov-21-11 12:56 PM |
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And you do? I don't think so. |
MineralMan |
Nov-21-11 01:59 PM |
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Yes. I know that "liberal" does not mean sending tens of thousands of additional troops |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:07 PM |
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You don't know jack, because liberals are not a monolith. We are |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 05:30 PM |
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Yeah, so you think that liberals can hold almost exclusively right wing views? |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 08:56 AM |
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Who gets to decide who a "real" liberal is? Not you. |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 03:26 PM |
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So apparently a "real" liberal is one who supports trickle-down economics |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 03:58 PM |
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Liberals are not a monolith. We are liberals BECAUSE of our |
Kahuna |
Nov-21-11 05:31 PM |
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Ahhh, so liberals support trickle-down economics and preemptive wars. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
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The support whatever they want to support without being dictated too.. |
Kahuna |
Nov-22-11 12:25 PM |
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"liberal" is not some amorphous term which changes with the wind. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 12:29 PM |
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Get over yourself already. I've been a register democrat for 39 years, |
Kahuna |
Nov-22-11 12:49 PM |
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Don't worry, there are plenty of democrats who have no idea what the word "liberal" means. |
EOTE |
Nov-22-11 12:51 PM |
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Nov-21-11 12:57 PM |
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I'm a liberal. An informed liberal. |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 01:02 PM |
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Do you mean that or did you forget your sarcasm tag? |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:03 PM |
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I'm totally serious |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:05 PM |
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Sure, even if it is uniformed that's fine nt |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:07 PM |
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You can have your opinion, I have mine |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:09 PM |
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You just happen to agree with the Republicans |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:12 PM |
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Obama has been a terrible president |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:13 PM |
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But you don't have the right to redefine "liberal" or insult the people who disagree with you. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:09 PM |
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But you do? Pot, meet kettle. How is stating people are uninformed insulting? Call it like I see it |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:10 PM |
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Pointing out facts is not an insult. You are not entitled to your own facts. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Your so called facts are highly suspect |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:13 PM |
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To believe what you do, you have to posit a massive grassroots conspiracy to sway a poll. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:40 PM |
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Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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Actually, I am. And again, you don't define what is a "liberal." |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:19 PM |
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So you approve of Obama giving tax cuts to the top 1%, covering up the Bush era War Crimes, |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:20 PM |
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I feel badly for you that you're unable to hold a balanced, factually accurate view of the world. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:24 PM |
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Mine is crystal clear |
slay |
Nov-21-11 03:39 PM |
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Translation: "Yes" nt |
Electric Monk |
Nov-21-11 06:22 PM |
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Liberals support a progressive tax code. They are generally against unjust wars, too. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 02:39 PM |
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that is honest to goodness what most dems I personally know say, too. |
Divine Discontent |
Nov-21-11 01:36 PM |
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Couldn't have said it better myself. |
EOTE |
Nov-21-11 01:48 PM |
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Exactly. |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 01:52 PM |
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Nov-21-11 01:05 PM |
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And like all the other polls, it proves what? |
hobbit709 |
Nov-21-11 01:09 PM |
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In this case, that President Obama still has the steadfast support of liberal Democrats. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Nov-21-11 01:15 PM |
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His overall approval rating is 43% |
Lasher |
Nov-21-11 01:14 PM |
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I'm trying to understand what is the importance of this poll:. 84 percent of his fans approve him. |
BoWanZi |
Nov-21-11 01:15 PM |
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I woudl agree, except for |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 01:18 PM |
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I absolutely LOVE how those goal posts keep moving in this thread |
Number23 |
Nov-22-11 05:16 PM |
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+1 |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:20 PM |
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But... but... who defines them sa liberals? |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 01:15 PM |
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I advise against applying at DU |
flamingdem |
Nov-21-11 01:46 PM |
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K&R...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-21-11 01:38 PM |
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Yeah, "liberal Democrats." |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 01:44 PM |
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Thank you |
slay |
Nov-21-11 01:47 PM |
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Well said! |
Desertrose |
Nov-21-11 01:52 PM |
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Newsflash: you do not define what a liberal is. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:56 PM |
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Newsflash: Neither do you |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:07 PM |
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Unlike you, I never pretended to. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:12 PM |
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Liberals don't ignore facts like how Obama covered up the Bush war crimes, tax cuts for the top 1% |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:17 PM |
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How is that relevant? One can disagree with Obama's policies and still approve of him. |
joshcryer |
Nov-22-11 01:58 AM |
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I don't need to define anything except the liberal platform |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 02:11 PM |
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First off, half of what you list is not true. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 02:15 PM |
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Yeah, right |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 02:27 PM |
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These are the same people who let the teabaggers get out 9% more votes than we did. |
joshcryer |
Nov-22-11 01:59 AM |
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Comments such as this are absolutely AMAZING |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 02:02 PM |
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Again with the "define liberal" crap. |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 02:13 PM |
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You do not have to define it |
Inuca |
Nov-21-11 02:46 PM |
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If your choices for Senator were ... Liddy Dole or Kay Hagen ... what do you do? |
JoePhilly |
Nov-21-11 05:08 PM |
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Center Democrats have successfully moved the Democratic Party to the right, and now |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-21-11 06:45 PM |
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Open question: Did Gallup ask the same poll question during the Clinton years? |
yodermon |
Nov-21-11 01:53 PM |
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Not sure, but if they did, it's not available via their Presidential Job Approval Center. |
TheWraith |
Nov-21-11 01:59 PM |
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The more who approve of our moderately conservative President, the better. |
dawg |
Nov-21-11 01:55 PM |
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At least you're realistic about the situation |
slay |
Nov-21-11 02:12 PM |
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Exactly! |
BoWanZi |
Nov-21-11 03:51 PM |
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The alternative could be |
AmericaIsGreat |
Nov-21-11 04:50 PM |
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K&R. |
MineralMan |
Nov-21-11 01:58 PM |
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wonder what his approval rating is among DU socialists? |
DCBob |
Nov-21-11 02:21 PM |
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Yep. nt |
sufrommich |
Nov-21-11 02:30 PM |
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Holy sh*t! Rec #14!!!!! |
Number23 |
Nov-21-11 02:53 PM |
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Good news. |
Scurrilous |
Nov-21-11 02:56 PM |
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You're such a shit-stirrer..... |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 02:57 PM |
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When he took office his approval rating among the same group was 88% |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-21-11 03:01 PM |
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I think most liberals recognize that he's making the best out of his situation. |
pnwmom |
Nov-21-11 03:31 PM |
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Rec. |
treestar |
Nov-21-11 03:56 PM |
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KnR ... Thanks for the post. |
lpbk2713 |
Nov-21-11 04:17 PM |
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What is your approval rating among DU posters? n/t |
Chan790 |
Nov-21-11 04:51 PM |
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Probably less than 30%. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 04:57 PM |
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On the bright side, that makes you substantially more popular than Congress. |
Chan790 |
Nov-21-11 05:04 PM |
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It would be interesting to see if that were true. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 05:05 PM |
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I'll get a taste of that tonight... |
zanana1 |
Nov-21-11 04:55 PM |
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Same here. Fired up and ready to go. |
lamp_shade |
Nov-21-11 05:24 PM |
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I just got back from making phone calls for Obama. |
zanana1 |
Nov-21-11 07:44 PM |
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super to hear! |
flamingdem |
Nov-22-11 01:29 AM |
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I think the reality of what you're experiencing is much more real than the alternative reality |
Number23 |
Nov-22-11 05:13 PM |
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How many liberals were polled?? |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 05:20 PM |
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no doubt |
Broderick |
Nov-21-11 05:21 PM |
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Clearly less than 15% or so |
ThomWV |
Nov-21-11 05:24 PM |
#136 |
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So odd how you pop up every few days to tell us how we feel about the president. |
TroglodyteScholar |
Nov-21-11 05:37 PM |
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Why is it odd to report on the popularity of a democratic |
sufrommich |
Nov-21-11 05:48 PM |
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then maybe he should take a poll here |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-21-11 06:11 PM |
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You clicked on it. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-21-11 06:00 PM |
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Thanks for reminding me... |
TroglodyteScholar |
Nov-21-11 06:14 PM |
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Thanks |
MissDeeds |
Nov-21-11 06:29 PM |
#147 |
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What is his approval rating among far left Democrats? |
Modern_Matthew |
Nov-22-11 01:31 AM |
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The far left aren't Democrats. |
joshcryer |
Nov-22-11 02:01 AM |
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K & R! |
lonestarnot |
Nov-22-11 08:53 AM |
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Neoliberals. nt |
LWolf |
Nov-22-11 09:53 AM |
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I think allot of Liberal democrats stopped identify themselves as liberal democrats |
TNLib |
Nov-22-11 05:35 PM |
#165 |
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