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Sun Nov-20-11 08:34 AM
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| 4. More out of touch billionaire bullshit. Tax them on their profits. |
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Wrecking the art community the same way they wrecked the retail business.
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| -Anger at Walmart heiress's $1.4bn gallery as art market becomes focus for protests |
Turborama |
Nov-20-11 06:53 AM |
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We have truly returned to the Gilded Age. |
Itchinjim |
Nov-20-11 07:15 AM |
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+1.4 billion n/t |
trotsky |
Nov-20-11 07:20 AM |
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Yes, but it has been this way throughout history. Even if we don't like it |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 08:48 AM |
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There is no charge to the public. It's free admission. |
Telly Savalas |
Nov-20-11 09:13 AM |
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it is a crime if they did half the shit they are accused of doing and |
roguevalley |
Nov-20-11 09:42 AM |
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free admission until that money allocated for admission runs out. |
uncle ray |
Nov-20-11 11:25 AM |
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There are some great museums in what you call "flyover" country. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 02:11 PM |
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I think without a gilded ruling class there is no "art," just "craft". I think I'd be ok with that. |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 02:31 PM |
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I know what you mean. Art becomes an ornament to display one's wealth, sadly. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 02:40 PM |
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Not only that, though. The very category of "high art" emerges as wealth is aggregated |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 02:56 PM |
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Art should, and must be, a "lived space" within us. That is my firm belief. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 03:42 PM |
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I think the public "museum" is basically concurrent with the capitalist/modern age, though |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 04:28 PM |
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I think if we read history we see lots of artists getting into trouble... |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 04:39 PM |
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The "struggling artist" concurrent with the commodification of "art," |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 04:46 PM |
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Cezanne absolutely did have a starting advantage. But my point was that |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 04:57 PM |
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I think a market relationship really IS a manifestion of patronage relationships, |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 05:10 PM |
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It's good to remember that in early 15th century Florence, the guilds commissioned quite a bit |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 05:26 PM |
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Yeah, not saying anything was the rule without exception (though, you know, |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 05:37 PM |
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then they said "enough!" and went and created their own society in a city! |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 05:50 PM |
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It's a very interesting period indeed, and interesting to view its art as a reflection of that. |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 06:37 PM |
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The problem with this sort of analysis is that it assumes that the art "market" follows |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 07:03 PM |
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I don't see how you can say that the art market doesn't follow the tastes of the monied class. |
WildNovember |
Nov-20-11 08:05 PM |
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Thank you for your thoughtful response. |
CTyankee |
Nov-21-11 07:58 AM |
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The Nelson Atkins museum in Kansas City is wonderful too |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-21-11 10:49 AM |
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I live in a rural region myself, and it makes sense to me to put these |
hedgehog |
Nov-20-11 02:38 PM |
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this gang of pirates had a daughter who paid someone to attend |
roguevalley |
Nov-20-11 09:40 AM |
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was that Alice? |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 12:18 PM |
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I'm not sure. I just read she was a daughter of one of them. |
roguevalley |
Nov-20-11 05:05 PM |
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I'm not sure. I just read she was a daughter of one of them. |
roguevalley |
Nov-20-11 05:05 PM |
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Do you have a link for that? |
tammywammy |
Nov-20-11 05:51 PM |
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I do remember the infamous Paige Laurie case: |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-21-11 11:35 AM |
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"...without giving local institutions a chance..." |
CBHagman |
Nov-20-11 07:37 AM |
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I've done research on what happened during the Gilded Age in terms of art. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 01:27 PM |
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More out of touch billionaire bullshit. Tax them on their profits. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-20-11 08:34 AM |
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I think it's time to start taxing these outrageous profits the way we tax lotto winnings. |
Initech |
Nov-20-11 12:31 PM |
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Right on, 40%. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-21-11 10:02 AM |
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Let's buy great art from |
edhopper |
Nov-20-11 08:37 AM |
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Yes, because great art should only be in major cities... |
kiva |
Nov-21-11 10:36 AM |
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Yes, that is what I am saying |
edhopper |
Nov-21-11 03:44 PM |
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they cut the workers pay and benefits and Alice is so cheap |
BlueToTheBone |
Nov-20-11 09:18 AM |
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Amusing selection of art, considering the donor. Let them eat art. |
Safetykitten |
Nov-20-11 09:21 AM |
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You can thank the Walton heirs for coming up with the meme 'death taxes' |
Hestia |
Nov-20-11 10:03 AM |
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If their employees were actually paid, that museum wouldn't exist. |
Initech |
Nov-20-11 12:30 PM |
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There may be some Arkansan art majors who would love a job in a |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 02:15 PM |
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I've taken a lot of art classes, no way in hell would I work for the Waltons. |
Initech |
Nov-20-11 02:25 PM |
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I hear you. And there may be art majors who believe the same thing. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 02:29 PM |
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But there is now, $7.65 an hour, only twenty-one to thirty hours a week, no benefits. |
Ikonoklast |
Nov-20-11 02:55 PM |
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Unfortunately, to work at what they love, plenty of art majors would be interested. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 03:48 PM |
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+1000 |
Liberal_in_LA |
Nov-20-11 02:16 PM |
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+1000 |
Starry Messenger |
Nov-20-11 02:19 PM |
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That's why I enjoy art frauds and forgeries |
Tom Ripley |
Nov-20-11 02:24 PM |
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It's a big business! There are some great stories about such frauds and |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 02:31 PM |
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Did anybody watch "The Rape of Europa" on PBS? |
woo me with science |
Nov-20-11 02:50 PM |
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Unfortunately, it is not airing on my local PBS stations...nor out of NYC either here. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 03:56 PM |
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I thought they did a beautiful job, especially given the time constraints. |
woo me with science |
Nov-21-11 03:54 AM |
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What pisses me off is that the $1.4billion would have gone a long way |
madinmaryland |
Nov-20-11 04:53 PM |
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On balance I think the money should go to the employees. |
CTyankee |
Nov-20-11 05:00 PM |
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+1 |
sarcasmo |
Nov-21-11 10:30 AM |
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Sick. |
freshwest |
Nov-20-11 07:55 PM |
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I saw Crystal Bridges dance at Cheetah's a few years back. |
rucky |
Nov-20-11 07:57 PM |
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K&R! n/t |
countryjake |
Nov-21-11 02:50 AM |
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Patron of the arts |
melm00se |
Nov-21-11 06:53 AM |
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Whining about this shit gives dems a bad image, it is a FREE PUBLIC Attraction! |
Logical |
Nov-21-11 07:17 AM |
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How many families could she have lifted out of poverty if she had instead opened a business |
Marrah_G |
Nov-21-11 10:17 AM |
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