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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:34 PM
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23. And the Constitution allows states and municipalities to do their thing, too.
Check your Bill of Rights, there.

"Authorities" aren't "making up" laws--they are passed by representatives of the citizens in the communities where the laws are in place--state legislatures, city councils, etc.

These legislators and council members are not "authorities" -- they are elected representatives, servants of the people in the communities they serve.
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  -President Obama can't win around here can he? NNN0LHI  Nov-18-11 08:02 PM   #0 
  - Just a minute...  ellisonz   Nov-18-11 08:03 PM   #1 
  - You shall know them by their ACTIONS. nt  woo me with science   Nov-18-11 08:05 PM   #2 
  - werd  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-18-11 08:09 PM   #6 
  - Elizabeth Warren refuses to sign a support letter for Occupy Harvard  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 08:06 PM   #3 
  - -1. She has said she supports OWS, and they should obey the law.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:09 PM   #7 
  - Occupiers ARE obeying the law--the Constitution!  meow2u3   Nov-18-11 08:15 PM   #13 
  - And the Constitution allows states and municipalities to do their thing, too.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:34 PM   #23 
  - And all those shiny laws are interpreted however the locals feel like...  LooseWilly   Nov-20-11 01:43 AM   #171 
  - That statement will take some real supporting  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:16 AM   #111 
  - But her buddies on Wall Street prevent her from fully supporting  frazzled   Nov-18-11 08:58 PM   #33 
     - great post - will be ignored by the Obama "buddy of Wall St" conspiracy crowd  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 09:01 PM   #36 
     - Fail, as always.  girl gone mad   Nov-18-11 09:38 PM   #61 
     - wrong again - Dimon got frosty after Obama signed Dodd-Frank  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 09:55 PM   #71 
        - Here's another one..  girl gone mad   Nov-19-11 02:06 AM   #84 
           - OK - I'll give you Corzine. After all he just held a fundraiser for the President  banned from Kos   Nov-19-11 08:15 AM   #98 
              - There are times when one has to hold one's nose, too.  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:35 AM   #142 
     - Not to mention that merely having worked on Wall St  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:18 AM   #112 
     - Are you serious?  SomethingFishy   Nov-19-11 03:37 PM   #160 
     - Really great post as usual  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:37 PM   #60 
     - Nice argument. You should make that into an OP. nt  ZombieHorde   Nov-19-11 02:31 PM   #158 
  - Why do the students occupy in Harvard Yard  Response   Nov-18-11 11:57 PM   #78 
  - Because their dorm rooms are steps away. They can go inside to poop, pee and shower,  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:38 AM   #144 
     - That was kind of what I was getting at.  Response   Nov-20-11 01:17 AM   #169 
  - I though she started the whole thing!  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:16 AM   #110 
  - False dichotomy  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-18-11 08:07 PM   #4 
  - really - that shit is so tiring  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 08:10 PM   #8 
  - Ignore the message and lampoon the periphery  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-18-11 08:12 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-11 08:14 PM   # 
  - We can all name the Wall Street-ers on his staff.  Gamow   Nov-18-11 08:45 PM   #27 
  - there are none - they are staffers.  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 09:03 PM   #38 
  - Given that the President's staff is his cabinet.  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:15 PM   #49 
  - Is this a test? Like Bush never knew Ken Lay?  Response   Nov-19-11 12:01 AM   #79 
  - This table lists the top donors to Barack Obama in the 2008 election cycle.  Prometheus Bound   Nov-19-11 11:41 PM   #168 
     - You do realize that INDIVIDUAL donations are tracked by their employer names, don't you?  emulatorloo   Nov-20-11 12:55 PM   #179 
  - -1, our President should not have to call on us to support  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:21 AM   #113 
  - It's unfortunate. Some people just have an overarching need to be AGAINST something or someone.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:08 PM   #5 
  - Obama passed three of his four jobs bills last month, and all we hear is whining  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 08:18 PM   #14 
  - Indeed. The guy can't win no matter what he does. nt  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:35 PM   #24 
     - That poster snarkily meant to say "passed three out of four TRADE bills" but  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:11 PM   #46 
        - Obama claimed that the three Obama/Bush "free" trade bills will create US jobs  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 09:23 PM   #53 
        - I most certainly do believe President Obama  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:33 PM   #57 
           - He specifically called them out as jobs bills in the "pass this bill!' speech  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 09:45 PM   #68 
              - Will they have the same robust job building characteristics as  Response   Nov-19-11 12:05 AM   #80 
                 - Absolutely. nt  MannyGoldstein   Nov-19-11 06:56 AM   #85 
                 - Lets see what Obama said about NAFTA in 2008.  bvar22   Nov-19-11 12:53 PM   #154 
                 - Perhaps not  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:30 AM   #117 
                    - How do you feel about almost-free-trade with China?  MannyGoldstein   Nov-19-11 10:46 AM   #134 
                    - I really don't know  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:51 AM   #136 
                       - Paul Krugman says...  MannyGoldstein   Nov-19-11 12:31 PM   #151 
                    - Most of us should admit that NAFTA has been a failure  Response   Nov-20-11 01:25 AM   #170 
        - rofl!  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:27 AM   #116 
  - A lot of people act like Obama is their daddy, and has control  Kahuna   Nov-18-11 08:26 PM   #19 
  - That' true. The whole "Every Little Sparrow" thing.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:38 PM   #25 
  - LOL! Christmas is coming. It's time for the dears to start making out their lists..  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 07:56 AM   #89 
  - They've forgotten that King Obama might decide  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:31 AM   #118 
  - Or a puppet  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:32 AM   #119 
  - But, But, But. What about FDR with an exhaustively democratic Congress.  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:22 PM   #52 
  - Or LBJ?  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:33 AM   #121 
  - +1. nt  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:31 AM   #141 
  - So true. That is a great post. Why can't these people  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:27 AM   #115 
     - +1. nt  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:50 AM   #146 
  - He never wins around here.. if he does something...  TreasonousBastard   Nov-18-11 08:11 PM   #9 
  - There are people on DU that admit that Obama is doing a good job.  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:31 PM   #56 
  - Amen, anything he DID say about OWS and the police  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:34 AM   #123 
  - Because, often when he does something (insert bush tax cuts)  ChairmanAgnostic   Nov-20-11 06:40 AM   #178 
  - Who accused Obama of co-opting OWS?  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 08:14 PM   #11 
  - Several of us do support him, even when we oppose him  gateley   Nov-18-11 08:14 PM   #12 
  - I support President Obama on those rare occasions when he does somethin  JDPriestly   Nov-18-11 09:09 PM   #43 
     - Totally agree with you on that count -  gateley   Nov-19-11 10:26 AM   #114 
        - They are just frustrated by the ineptitude of the administration in a numbe  JDPriestly   Nov-19-11 10:35 PM   #164 
           - Says the dude with the John Edwards avatar...  ellisonz   Nov-19-11 10:56 PM   #166 
              - He could have had a majority in Congress had he enforced the law  JDPriestly   Nov-20-11 01:44 AM   #172 
  - Agree...  Spazito   Nov-18-11 08:19 PM   #15 
  - Several critics still do support him.  Amonester   Nov-18-11 08:21 PM   #16 
  - I'd love to see any statement supporting OWS by Obama  quinnox   Nov-18-11 08:24 PM   #17 
  - Yes, it does exist.  Tx4obama   Nov-18-11 08:55 PM   #32 
     - ok, but that was a month ago  quinnox   Nov-18-11 09:05 PM   #40 
        - Well, you said: 'any statement'. I provided 'one' :)  Tx4obama   Nov-18-11 09:14 PM   #47 
        - JINX!!!  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:16 PM   #50 
        - HA! So you want to see a statement of support for OWS from Obama, when someone shows you one  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:14 PM   #48 
        - Had the statement been made yesterday  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:38 AM   #127 
        - I want to see the protestors make a statement in support of the president.  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 07:57 AM   #90 
        - Lol  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:15 AM   #99 
           - LOL, my eye. The president could have used the help of the occupiers..  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 09:33 AM   #106 
           - Yours are  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:39 AM   #128 
              - Ah, yes, I forgot that we all work for him.  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:18 AM   #173 
        - Why?  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:35 AM   #124 
  - in the absence of leadership on his part there are many options on our part nt  msongs   Nov-18-11 08:26 PM   #18 
  - What are those options?  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:35 PM   #58 
  - Yes, because we have a hive mentality and thus can "make up our minds."  ClassWarrior   Nov-18-11 08:27 PM   #20 
  - As I read this thread, I see that the people who revile the president on  Kahuna   Nov-18-11 08:29 PM   #21 
  - DAMN good point  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:18 PM   #51 
  - Stunning, isn't it? nt  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:35 PM   #59 
  - Kinda ass backwards isn't it?  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:38 PM   #62 
  - His job is to support the people.  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:08 AM   #95 
  - He's not my little brother. That is true. He's also not your daddy. nt  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 08:18 AM   #100 
  - Happily no, my Dad always kept his word. And where have I heard that BS before?  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:24 AM   #102 
     - My daddy taught me to take responsibility for my own actions. nt  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 09:31 AM   #105 
     - Radical RW memes just trip off the lips of some people, don't they?  ClassWarrior   Nov-19-11 10:13 AM   #108 
     - Yep, and did you see the response?  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:19 AM   #174 
     - There is a difference between wanting the government  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:40 AM   #129 
  - Absolutely wrong  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:37 AM   #126 
  - Introducing the 10th Amendment (Yes, I know it's been awhile)  ellisonz   Nov-19-11 11:09 PM   #167 
  - What a hopelessly stupid attempt at diverting responsibility.  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:26 AM   #175 
  - Teafucks are people. So are the religious right zanies.  bluestate10   Nov-19-11 12:11 PM   #149 
  - Um, I think they've always wanted his support.  Barack_America   Nov-19-11 10:43 AM   #132 
  - Yes, his support (or lack of) for OWS is the only factor I'm considering.  Scuba   Nov-18-11 08:29 PM   #22 
  - Denounce the violence  otohara   Nov-18-11 08:43 PM   #26 
  - The point for me is not that he support OWS or not;  phiddle   Nov-18-11 08:46 PM   #28 
  - "...to assure that the civil rights of those demonstrating are respected by all parties..."  woo me with science   Nov-18-11 08:51 PM   #30 
  - I get a kick out of people trying to write the script for PBO.  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:40 PM   #64 
     - Nature abhors a vacuum! (Or a vacuous "leader")  phiddle   Nov-18-11 10:46 PM   #73 
     - I know, at least get the job of speechwriter at the wH  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:43 AM   #131 
        - Uh, his speeches sound like what people want to hear - it's his policies that are the problem.  Edweird   Nov-19-11 10:58 AM   #138 
  - I'd rather have the massive egos that run this country be over criticized  Gamow   Nov-18-11 08:49 PM   #29 
  - When did this become about him?  Stinky The Clown   Nov-18-11 08:54 PM   #31 
  - If he had been doing his job as far as busting heads on wall street....  JVS   Nov-18-11 09:00 PM   #34 
  - Did you actually just use "motherfucked" as a verb?  Ken Burch   Nov-18-11 09:01 PM   #35 
  - I thought that was strange as well  quinnox   Nov-18-11 09:03 PM   #37 
  - Is OP trying to label critics as motherfuckers?  JVS   Nov-18-11 09:05 PM   #39 
     - For the record, my mother and I are just friends.  Ken Burch   Nov-18-11 11:16 PM   #76 
  - Linguistics for our times.  JohnnyLib2   Nov-18-11 09:11 PM   #45 
  - Are you that naive?? You've never heard that term used that way before??  Major Hogwash   Nov-18-11 09:23 PM   #54 
  - I'm a man and I'm Protestant.  Ken Burch   Nov-18-11 11:16 PM   #75 
  - hahah--that is what I was thinking as well! n/t  Evergreen Emerald   Nov-19-11 08:01 AM   #92 
  - Obama should address the issues that OWS has raised, one by one.  JDPriestly   Nov-18-11 09:06 PM   #41 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-11 09:08 PM   #42 
  - Yeah, this whole "he supports protests in Egypt and not here" meme is beyond idiotic  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:10 PM   #44 
  - if he wants to be trusted he has to show himself worthy of that trust  MisterP   Nov-18-11 09:28 PM   #55 
  - Fail.  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:43 PM   #67 
     - Yeah. It's so worn out the repukes don't use honesty, fairness, trust too.  Amonester   Nov-18-11 11:25 PM   #77 
  - And don't forget the Police violence...  SidDithers   Nov-18-11 09:39 PM   #63 
  - Kids are getting beat down, grannies and pregnant women getting pepper sprayed..  girl gone mad   Nov-18-11 09:41 PM   #65 
  - you said it girl gone mad  quinnox   Nov-18-11 09:42 PM   #66 
  - Perfectly stated. nt  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:11 AM   #96 
  - Well said! nt  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-19-11 08:19 AM   #101 
  - Hate to inform you, but things like that happen every day  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:42 AM   #130 
     - Who remembers CIVICS as a subject in school?  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:47 AM   #145 
     - "The school you went to failed to provide basic information."  Number23   Nov-19-11 04:46 PM   #162 
  - Come on, Don. Do you seriously believe if Obama supported OWS  EFerrari   Nov-18-11 09:49 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-11 09:52 PM   #70 
  - LOL!  Number23   Nov-18-11 10:01 PM   #72 
  - Wow  otohara   Nov-18-11 11:15 PM   #74 
  - People are pissed and Obama has no one but himself to blame for it. He ran on 'change'  Edweird   Nov-19-11 12:07 AM   #81 
  - i disagree but will kick this thread for creative use of the word 'motherfucked'  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 12:07 AM   #82 
  - Order the Dept of Justice to STAND DOWN  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:13 AM   #83 
  - he can't. if he did that he would be accused of trying to co-opt the movement.  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 07:41 AM   #87 
  - What he'd really be accused of is supporting anarchy. nt  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 07:59 AM   #91 
     - That was a revealing post. nt  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:12 AM   #97 
     - OWS is anarchy?  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 08:26 AM   #103 
        - I see posts on DU on a daily basis suggesting that OWS should  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 09:18 AM   #104 
           - Stock piling rocks and projectiles  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:54 PM   #155 
  - LOL!  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:47 AM   #135 
     - What pray tell me does this you posted have to do with the price  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 11:02 AM   #139 
        - The FBI gets called in on some state matters  treestar   Nov-19-11 11:08 AM   #140 
           - You actually believe the FBI is not infiltrating  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:08 PM   #148 
              - They may have done it in the 60s but there is no  treestar   Nov-19-11 12:42 PM   #152 
                 - Ok then it's my team  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:52 PM   #153 
  - Maybe OWS is bigger than one politician  _ed_   Nov-19-11 07:28 AM   #86 
  - maybe he shouldn't say shit like this to the world, unless he intends to back it up with action here  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 07:43 AM   #88 
  - Stop whining.  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:05 AM   #93 
  - Awww.  bigwillq   Nov-19-11 08:06 AM   #94 
  - He should do whatever the daily whim is, which probably contradicts  TwilightGardener   Nov-19-11 09:40 AM   #107 
  - He always does the wrong thing because his default position is to prop up the status quo  TheKentuckian   Nov-19-11 10:32 AM   #120 
  - Yep! He should attend to the issue of the day as chosen  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:45 AM   #133 
  - Whatever he does is wrong to some people  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:15 AM   #109 
  - I would very much like to see many critics run for office  loyalsister   Nov-20-11 03:40 AM   #176 
  - He'd win real big by denouncing police violence against protesters.  Zorra   Nov-19-11 10:33 AM   #122 
  - I'd have a lot more respect for the president  whatchamacallit   Nov-19-11 10:36 AM   #125 
  - He has lost any opportunity to lead and this is a leaderless revolution  tavalon   Nov-19-11 10:51 AM   #137 
  - Of course he can, I think some wish he would lose all the time.  Rex   Nov-19-11 11:35 AM   #143 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-19-11 11:51 AM   #147 
  - He can win whenever he decides to fight to uphold  LWolf   Nov-19-11 12:13 PM   #150 
  - It is a bed of his own making.  bvar22   Nov-19-11 01:02 PM   #156 
  - Well, different people are going to have different opinions. So people on the "same side" of an  ZombieHorde   Nov-19-11 02:29 PM   #157 
  - That's the whole problem...  AntiFascist   Nov-19-11 03:23 PM   #159 
  - Obama is Clinton II, basically  War Horse   Nov-19-11 04:27 PM   #161 
  - OWS will gain steam and evolve and Obama will be able to embrace it.  fostercareinjustice   Nov-19-11 04:49 PM   #163 
  - Well, he could TRY supporting it and see what happens.  Deep13   Nov-19-11 10:38 PM   #165 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours ...eom  Kolesar   Nov-20-11 06:32 AM   #177 
 

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