You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #23: And the Constitution allows states and municipalities to do their thing, too. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #13
23. And the Constitution allows states and municipalities to do their thing, too.
Check your Bill of Rights, there.

"Authorities" aren't "making up" laws--they are passed by representatives of the citizens in the communities where the laws are in place--state legislatures, city councils, etc.

These legislators and council members are not "authorities" -- they are elected representatives, servants of the people in the communities they serve.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -President Obama can't win around here can he? NNN0LHI  Nov-18-11 08:02 PM   #0 
  - Just a minute...  ellisonz   Nov-18-11 08:03 PM   #1 
  - You shall know them by their ACTIONS. nt  woo me with science   Nov-18-11 08:05 PM   #2 
  - werd  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-18-11 08:09 PM   #6 
  - Elizabeth Warren refuses to sign a support letter for Occupy Harvard  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 08:06 PM   #3 
  - -1. She has said she supports OWS, and they should obey the law.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:09 PM   #7 
  - Occupiers ARE obeying the law--the Constitution!  meow2u3   Nov-18-11 08:15 PM   #13 
  - And the Constitution allows states and municipalities to do their thing, too.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:34 PM   #23 
  - And all those shiny laws are interpreted however the locals feel like...  LooseWilly   Nov-20-11 01:43 AM   #171 
  - That statement will take some real supporting  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:16 AM   #111 
  - But her buddies on Wall Street prevent her from fully supporting  frazzled   Nov-18-11 08:58 PM   #33 
     - great post - will be ignored by the Obama "buddy of Wall St" conspiracy crowd  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 09:01 PM   #36 
     - Fail, as always.  girl gone mad   Nov-18-11 09:38 PM   #61 
     - wrong again - Dimon got frosty after Obama signed Dodd-Frank  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 09:55 PM   #71 
        - Here's another one..  girl gone mad   Nov-19-11 02:06 AM   #84 
           - OK - I'll give you Corzine. After all he just held a fundraiser for the President  banned from Kos   Nov-19-11 08:15 AM   #98 
              - There are times when one has to hold one's nose, too.  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:35 AM   #142 
     - Not to mention that merely having worked on Wall St  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:18 AM   #112 
     - Are you serious?  SomethingFishy   Nov-19-11 03:37 PM   #160 
     - Really great post as usual  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:37 PM   #60 
     - Nice argument. You should make that into an OP. nt  ZombieHorde   Nov-19-11 02:31 PM   #158 
  - Why do the students occupy in Harvard Yard  Response   Nov-18-11 11:57 PM   #78 
  - Because their dorm rooms are steps away. They can go inside to poop, pee and shower,  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:38 AM   #144 
     - That was kind of what I was getting at.  Response   Nov-20-11 01:17 AM   #169 
  - I though she started the whole thing!  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:16 AM   #110 
  - False dichotomy  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-18-11 08:07 PM   #4 
  - really - that shit is so tiring  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 08:10 PM   #8 
  - Ignore the message and lampoon the periphery  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-18-11 08:12 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-11 08:14 PM   # 
  - We can all name the Wall Street-ers on his staff.  Gamow   Nov-18-11 08:45 PM   #27 
  - there are none - they are staffers.  banned from Kos   Nov-18-11 09:03 PM   #38 
  - Given that the President's staff is his cabinet.  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:15 PM   #49 
  - Is this a test? Like Bush never knew Ken Lay?  Response   Nov-19-11 12:01 AM   #79 
  - This table lists the top donors to Barack Obama in the 2008 election cycle.  Prometheus Bound   Nov-19-11 11:41 PM   #168 
     - You do realize that INDIVIDUAL donations are tracked by their employer names, don't you?  emulatorloo   Nov-20-11 12:55 PM   #179 
  - -1, our President should not have to call on us to support  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:21 AM   #113 
  - It's unfortunate. Some people just have an overarching need to be AGAINST something or someone.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:08 PM   #5 
  - Obama passed three of his four jobs bills last month, and all we hear is whining  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 08:18 PM   #14 
  - Indeed. The guy can't win no matter what he does. nt  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:35 PM   #24 
     - That poster snarkily meant to say "passed three out of four TRADE bills" but  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:11 PM   #46 
        - Obama claimed that the three Obama/Bush "free" trade bills will create US jobs  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 09:23 PM   #53 
        - I most certainly do believe President Obama  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:33 PM   #57 
           - He specifically called them out as jobs bills in the "pass this bill!' speech  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 09:45 PM   #68 
              - Will they have the same robust job building characteristics as  Response   Nov-19-11 12:05 AM   #80 
                 - Absolutely. nt  MannyGoldstein   Nov-19-11 06:56 AM   #85 
                 - Lets see what Obama said about NAFTA in 2008.  bvar22   Nov-19-11 12:53 PM   #154 
                 - Perhaps not  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:30 AM   #117 
                    - How do you feel about almost-free-trade with China?  MannyGoldstein   Nov-19-11 10:46 AM   #134 
                    - I really don't know  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:51 AM   #136 
                       - Paul Krugman says...  MannyGoldstein   Nov-19-11 12:31 PM   #151 
                    - Most of us should admit that NAFTA has been a failure  Response   Nov-20-11 01:25 AM   #170 
        - rofl!  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:27 AM   #116 
  - A lot of people act like Obama is their daddy, and has control  Kahuna   Nov-18-11 08:26 PM   #19 
  - That' true. The whole "Every Little Sparrow" thing.  MADem   Nov-18-11 08:38 PM   #25 
  - LOL! Christmas is coming. It's time for the dears to start making out their lists..  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 07:56 AM   #89 
  - They've forgotten that King Obama might decide  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:31 AM   #118 
  - Or a puppet  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:32 AM   #119 
  - But, But, But. What about FDR with an exhaustively democratic Congress.  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:22 PM   #52 
  - Or LBJ?  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:33 AM   #121 
  - +1. nt  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:31 AM   #141 
  - So true. That is a great post. Why can't these people  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:27 AM   #115 
     - +1. nt  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:50 AM   #146 
  - He never wins around here.. if he does something...  TreasonousBastard   Nov-18-11 08:11 PM   #9 
  - There are people on DU that admit that Obama is doing a good job.  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:31 PM   #56 
  - Amen, anything he DID say about OWS and the police  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:34 AM   #123 
  - Because, often when he does something (insert bush tax cuts)  ChairmanAgnostic   Nov-20-11 06:40 AM   #178 
  - Who accused Obama of co-opting OWS?  MannyGoldstein   Nov-18-11 08:14 PM   #11 
  - Several of us do support him, even when we oppose him  gateley   Nov-18-11 08:14 PM   #12 
  - I support President Obama on those rare occasions when he does somethin  JDPriestly   Nov-18-11 09:09 PM   #43 
     - Totally agree with you on that count -  gateley   Nov-19-11 10:26 AM   #114 
        - They are just frustrated by the ineptitude of the administration in a numbe  JDPriestly   Nov-19-11 10:35 PM   #164 
           - Says the dude with the John Edwards avatar...  ellisonz   Nov-19-11 10:56 PM   #166 
              - He could have had a majority in Congress had he enforced the law  JDPriestly   Nov-20-11 01:44 AM   #172 
  - Agree...  Spazito   Nov-18-11 08:19 PM   #15 
  - Several critics still do support him.  Amonester   Nov-18-11 08:21 PM   #16 
  - I'd love to see any statement supporting OWS by Obama  quinnox   Nov-18-11 08:24 PM   #17 
  - Yes, it does exist.  Tx4obama   Nov-18-11 08:55 PM   #32 
     - ok, but that was a month ago  quinnox   Nov-18-11 09:05 PM   #40 
        - Well, you said: 'any statement'. I provided 'one' :)  Tx4obama   Nov-18-11 09:14 PM   #47 
        - JINX!!!  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:16 PM   #50 
        - HA! So you want to see a statement of support for OWS from Obama, when someone shows you one  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:14 PM   #48 
        - Had the statement been made yesterday  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:38 AM   #127 
        - I want to see the protestors make a statement in support of the president.  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 07:57 AM   #90 
        - Lol  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:15 AM   #99 
           - LOL, my eye. The president could have used the help of the occupiers..  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 09:33 AM   #106 
           - Yours are  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:39 AM   #128 
              - Ah, yes, I forgot that we all work for him.  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:18 AM   #173 
        - Why?  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:35 AM   #124 
  - in the absence of leadership on his part there are many options on our part nt  msongs   Nov-18-11 08:26 PM   #18 
  - What are those options?  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:35 PM   #58 
  - Yes, because we have a hive mentality and thus can "make up our minds."  ClassWarrior   Nov-18-11 08:27 PM   #20 
  - As I read this thread, I see that the people who revile the president on  Kahuna   Nov-18-11 08:29 PM   #21 
  - DAMN good point  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:18 PM   #51 
  - Stunning, isn't it? nt  bluestate10   Nov-18-11 09:35 PM   #59 
  - Kinda ass backwards isn't it?  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:38 PM   #62 
  - His job is to support the people.  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:08 AM   #95 
  - He's not my little brother. That is true. He's also not your daddy. nt  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 08:18 AM   #100 
  - Happily no, my Dad always kept his word. And where have I heard that BS before?  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:24 AM   #102 
     - My daddy taught me to take responsibility for my own actions. nt  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 09:31 AM   #105 
     - Radical RW memes just trip off the lips of some people, don't they?  ClassWarrior   Nov-19-11 10:13 AM   #108 
     - Yep, and did you see the response?  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:19 AM   #174 
     - There is a difference between wanting the government  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:40 AM   #129 
  - Absolutely wrong  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:37 AM   #126 
  - Introducing the 10th Amendment (Yes, I know it's been awhile)  ellisonz   Nov-19-11 11:09 PM   #167 
  - What a hopelessly stupid attempt at diverting responsibility.  Union Scribe   Nov-20-11 02:26 AM   #175 
  - Teafucks are people. So are the religious right zanies.  bluestate10   Nov-19-11 12:11 PM   #149 
  - Um, I think they've always wanted his support.  Barack_America   Nov-19-11 10:43 AM   #132 
  - Yes, his support (or lack of) for OWS is the only factor I'm considering.  Scuba   Nov-18-11 08:29 PM   #22 
  - Denounce the violence  otohara   Nov-18-11 08:43 PM   #26 
  - The point for me is not that he support OWS or not;  phiddle   Nov-18-11 08:46 PM   #28 
  - " assure that the civil rights of those demonstrating are respected by all parties..."  woo me with science   Nov-18-11 08:51 PM   #30 
  - I get a kick out of people trying to write the script for PBO.  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:40 PM   #64 
     - Nature abhors a vacuum! (Or a vacuous "leader")  phiddle   Nov-18-11 10:46 PM   #73 
     - I know, at least get the job of speechwriter at the wH  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:43 AM   #131 
        - Uh, his speeches sound like what people want to hear - it's his policies that are the problem.  Edweird   Nov-19-11 10:58 AM   #138 
  - I'd rather have the massive egos that run this country be over criticized  Gamow   Nov-18-11 08:49 PM   #29 
  - When did this become about him?  Stinky The Clown   Nov-18-11 08:54 PM   #31 
  - If he had been doing his job as far as busting heads on wall street....  JVS   Nov-18-11 09:00 PM   #34 
  - Did you actually just use "motherfucked" as a verb?  Ken Burch   Nov-18-11 09:01 PM   #35 
  - I thought that was strange as well  quinnox   Nov-18-11 09:03 PM   #37 
  - Is OP trying to label critics as motherfuckers?  JVS   Nov-18-11 09:05 PM   #39 
     - For the record, my mother and I are just friends.  Ken Burch   Nov-18-11 11:16 PM   #76 
  - Linguistics for our times.  JohnnyLib2   Nov-18-11 09:11 PM   #45 
  - Are you that naive?? You've never heard that term used that way before??  Major Hogwash   Nov-18-11 09:23 PM   #54 
  - I'm a man and I'm Protestant.  Ken Burch   Nov-18-11 11:16 PM   #75 
  - hahah--that is what I was thinking as well! n/t  Evergreen Emerald   Nov-19-11 08:01 AM   #92 
  - Obama should address the issues that OWS has raised, one by one.  JDPriestly   Nov-18-11 09:06 PM   #41 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-11 09:08 PM   #42 
  - Yeah, this whole "he supports protests in Egypt and not here" meme is beyond idiotic  Number23   Nov-18-11 09:10 PM   #44 
  - if he wants to be trusted he has to show himself worthy of that trust  MisterP   Nov-18-11 09:28 PM   #55 
  - Fail.  jaxx   Nov-18-11 09:43 PM   #67 
     - Yeah. It's so worn out the repukes don't use honesty, fairness, trust too.  Amonester   Nov-18-11 11:25 PM   #77 
  - And don't forget the Police violence...  SidDithers   Nov-18-11 09:39 PM   #63 
  - Kids are getting beat down, grannies and pregnant women getting pepper sprayed..  girl gone mad   Nov-18-11 09:41 PM   #65 
  - you said it girl gone mad  quinnox   Nov-18-11 09:42 PM   #66 
  - Perfectly stated. nt  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:11 AM   #96 
  - Well said! nt  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-19-11 08:19 AM   #101 
  - Hate to inform you, but things like that happen every day  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:42 AM   #130 
     - Who remembers CIVICS as a subject in school?  MADem   Nov-19-11 11:47 AM   #145 
     - "The school you went to failed to provide basic information."  Number23   Nov-19-11 04:46 PM   #162 
  - Come on, Don. Do you seriously believe if Obama supported OWS  EFerrari   Nov-18-11 09:49 PM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-18-11 09:52 PM   #70 
  - LOL!  Number23   Nov-18-11 10:01 PM   #72 
  - Wow  otohara   Nov-18-11 11:15 PM   #74 
  - People are pissed and Obama has no one but himself to blame for it. He ran on 'change'  Edweird   Nov-19-11 12:07 AM   #81 
  - i disagree but will kick this thread for creative use of the word 'motherfucked'  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 12:07 AM   #82 
  - Order the Dept of Justice to STAND DOWN  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:13 AM   #83 
  - he can't. if he did that he would be accused of trying to co-opt the movement.  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 07:41 AM   #87 
  - What he'd really be accused of is supporting anarchy. nt  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 07:59 AM   #91 
     - That was a revealing post. nt  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:12 AM   #97 
     - OWS is anarchy?  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 08:26 AM   #103 
        - I see posts on DU on a daily basis suggesting that OWS should  Kahuna   Nov-19-11 09:18 AM   #104 
           - Stock piling rocks and projectiles  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:54 PM   #155 
  - LOL!  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:47 AM   #135 
     - What pray tell me does this you posted have to do with the price  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 11:02 AM   #139 
        - The FBI gets called in on some state matters  treestar   Nov-19-11 11:08 AM   #140 
           - You actually believe the FBI is not infiltrating  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:08 PM   #148 
              - They may have done it in the 60s but there is no  treestar   Nov-19-11 12:42 PM   #152 
                 - Ok then it's my team  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-19-11 12:52 PM   #153 
  - Maybe OWS is bigger than one politician  _ed_   Nov-19-11 07:28 AM   #86 
  - maybe he shouldn't say shit like this to the world, unless he intends to back it up with action here  piratefish08   Nov-19-11 07:43 AM   #88 
  - Stop whining.  Union Scribe   Nov-19-11 08:05 AM   #93 
  - Awww.  bigwillq   Nov-19-11 08:06 AM   #94 
  - He should do whatever the daily whim is, which probably contradicts  TwilightGardener   Nov-19-11 09:40 AM   #107 
  - He always does the wrong thing because his default position is to prop up the status quo  TheKentuckian   Nov-19-11 10:32 AM   #120 
  - Yep! He should attend to the issue of the day as chosen  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:45 AM   #133 
  - Whatever he does is wrong to some people  treestar   Nov-19-11 10:15 AM   #109 
  - I would very much like to see many critics run for office  loyalsister   Nov-20-11 03:40 AM   #176 
  - He'd win real big by denouncing police violence against protesters.  Zorra   Nov-19-11 10:33 AM   #122 
  - I'd have a lot more respect for the president  whatchamacallit   Nov-19-11 10:36 AM   #125 
  - He has lost any opportunity to lead and this is a leaderless revolution  tavalon   Nov-19-11 10:51 AM   #137 
  - Of course he can, I think some wish he would lose all the time.  Rex   Nov-19-11 11:35 AM   #143 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-19-11 11:51 AM   #147 
  - He can win whenever he decides to fight to uphold  LWolf   Nov-19-11 12:13 PM   #150 
  - It is a bed of his own making.  bvar22   Nov-19-11 01:02 PM   #156 
  - Well, different people are going to have different opinions. So people on the "same side" of an  ZombieHorde   Nov-19-11 02:29 PM   #157 
  - That's the whole problem...  AntiFascist   Nov-19-11 03:23 PM   #159 
  - Obama is Clinton II, basically  War Horse   Nov-19-11 04:27 PM   #161 
  - OWS will gain steam and evolve and Obama will be able to embrace it.  fostercareinjustice   Nov-19-11 04:49 PM   #163 
  - Well, he could TRY supporting it and see what happens.  Deep13   Nov-19-11 10:38 PM   #165 
  - Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours ...eom  Kolesar   Nov-20-11 06:32 AM   #177 

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC