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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 01:37 PM
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14. Bad cop, good cop..
They're still cops..

OWS is going to have to go on a lot longer before any fundamental changes are going to happen.

I don't share your rosy view of the Democratic party apparatus, not any longer I don't.
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  -OWS is doing a good job of making people aware that there MineralMan  Nov-17-11 01:21 PM   #0 
  - Were they old enough to vote in 2008? Besides, as long as there's money in election and proprietary  valerief   Nov-17-11 01:23 PM   #1 
  - From what I can see, yes, they were mostly old enough to  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:29 PM   #4 
  - Voting still matters. Outrage isn't enough. n/t  pnwmom   Nov-17-11 01:53 PM   #20 
  - It would be a disaster if people chose not to vote  flamingdem   Nov-17-11 01:26 PM   #2 
  - I'm hoping that's not a wide-spread sentiment  arcane1   Nov-17-11 01:28 PM   #3 
  - I'm just going by some polls that were taken of the actual  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:32 PM   #7 
  - Can you share any of these polls so other can see the stats?  Bluenorthwest   Nov-17-11 02:04 PM   #27 
     - They were posted here on DU. As such, they became part of  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 02:09 PM   #31 
     - So you can not actually cite them. Nor quote them. Nor name  Bluenorthwest   Nov-17-11 02:16 PM   #33 
        - Here's a cite:  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:18 PM   #43 
     - OK, here's a cite:  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:33 PM   #47 
  - +1 Voting can have a positive impact in a very short time. nt/  Scuba   Nov-17-11 01:33 PM   #8 
     - What has been the positive impact of voters throwing the GOP out in 2006 & 2008?  leftstreet   Nov-17-11 01:34 PM   #10 
     - I'm not going to post the list.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:35 PM   #12 
     - It was undone by voters letting the GOP back in in 2010.  pnwmom   Nov-17-11 01:55 PM   #21 
        - If we could have just kept the GOP out, we'd have Single Payer healthcare now  leftstreet   Nov-17-11 01:59 PM   #26 
     - Yes, it can. I'm hoping it does exactly that, and in the correct  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:34 PM   #11 
  - Doesn't exactly coincide with their message that the system is corrupt..  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 01:29 PM   #5 
  - !  leftstreet   Nov-17-11 01:30 PM   #6 
  - I suggest you review the results of the 2011 election.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:33 PM   #9 
     - Bad cop, good cop..  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 01:37 PM   #14 
        - OK. Whatever you say.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:53 PM   #19 
  - It's legal in the US for a corporation to give money to a politician in order to secure his/her vote  Romulox   Nov-17-11 01:37 PM   #13 
  - It is. We have the SCOTUS to blame for that.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:44 PM   #17 
  - That's why we need the next appointments to be made by a Democratic President.  pnwmom   Nov-17-11 01:56 PM   #22 
     - Precisely. I'd like to see the next several appointments made  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:58 PM   #24 
  - Agreed. At the very least, IMO, we need to recognize that  Zorra   Nov-17-11 01:39 PM   #15 
  - I almost hate to say this... and I am not advocating anything...  redqueen   Nov-17-11 01:41 PM   #16 
  - You know, I'm not sure we have time for that, really.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 01:52 PM   #18 
  - You must be one of those "natural leaders"...  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 01:58 PM   #25 
  - Am I? I'm capable of making myself understood, it's true.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 02:06 PM   #28 
     - The last organization I was part of was band boosters for my daughter's HS..  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 02:20 PM   #36 
        - Political organizations require communication. I'm not sure what  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:32 PM   #46 
           - Political organizations also require grunt work..  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 04:21 PM   #50 
              - If you want to influence an organization, there's a certain amount  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 06:58 PM   #53 
  - There are certain types of people who are entrenched...  redqueen   Nov-17-11 02:08 PM   #29 
  - I wouldn't really judge that as being the cause of the New Deal...  ellisonz   Nov-17-11 02:31 PM   #37 
     - They took the planks.  redqueen   Nov-17-11 02:51 PM   #40 
        - You're mixing terms...  ellisonz   Nov-17-11 03:11 PM   #41 
  - K&R...  SidDithers   Nov-17-11 01:56 PM   #23 
  - Why don't you cite or name these polls you see?  Bluenorthwest   Nov-17-11 02:08 PM   #30 
  - They were posted here on DU.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 02:11 PM   #32 
     - Well then we can not discuss them.  Bluenorthwest   Nov-17-11 02:35 PM   #38 
        - That's why I didn't put specific number in my post.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:17 PM   #42 
        - OK, here's a cite:  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:30 PM   #45 
  - Maybe they have a better idea than voting.  izquierdista   Nov-17-11 02:17 PM   #34 
  - That works in small groups...sometimes.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 07:02 PM   #54 
  - Great post.  Wait Wut   Nov-17-11 02:18 PM   #35 
  - Unrec for careless slander of a movement that is generating activism  EFerrari   Nov-17-11 02:40 PM   #39 
  - I made no slander at all.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:34 PM   #48 
  - Unrec - changes can happen outside the voting booth.  TBF   Nov-17-11 03:20 PM   #44 
  - You may notice that those people are armed.  MineralMan   Nov-17-11 03:54 PM   #49 
     - Personally I would not like to see it -  TBF   Nov-17-11 04:21 PM   #51 
  - K&R. Your message is important.  great white snark   Nov-17-11 04:34 PM   #52 

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