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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-11 11:55 AM
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23. I am not disagreeing with the idea that public spaces belong to everyone.
But people who are not part of OWS have a hard time using those public spaces when they are taken over by tents and large groups of people.

THEY have rights, too, and that's why a balance is always struck between the rights of groups and the rights of individuals.

Do you think that people who are not part of OWS should give up their right to use a park because protesters want to stay there indefinitely?
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  -OWS Message and Tactics Nuclear Unicorn  Nov-17-11 10:11 AM   #0 
  - I would suggest that OWS's critics should consider the alternative....  Scuba   Nov-17-11 10:32 AM   #1 
  - Agree - I think they've done as well as can be expected given conditions.  TBF   Nov-17-11 10:34 AM   #2 
  - Agreed.  randome   Nov-17-11 10:36 AM   #3 
  - I concur because it puts those  Harmony Blue   Nov-17-11 01:18 PM   #47 
  - K&R for more replies...  SidDithers   Nov-17-11 10:42 AM   #4 
  - "ill-defined message, poor tactics" lol. Don't expect many  Zorra   Nov-17-11 11:21 AM   #5 
  - who wants to be shouted down by paranoic defenders of the OWS nebulon  bigtree   Nov-17-11 11:39 AM   #9 
     - Ooh, the personal attacks just keep coming. Keep 'em coming.  Zorra   Nov-17-11 11:51 AM   #20 
  - if their message is poor and tactics bad  Johonny   Nov-17-11 11:34 AM   #6 
  - It's pretty clear to me.  randome   Nov-17-11 11:37 AM   #7 
  - "Camping out in public parks"  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 11:38 AM   #8 
  - It's MY phrase.  randome   Nov-17-11 11:43 AM   #14 
  - But it is...sadly.  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 11:49 AM   #18 
  - What should we say? "Erecting tents and sleeping overnight?"  Nye Bevan   Nov-17-11 12:06 PM   #31 
  - There is a time limit written into the first amendment?  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 11:40 AM   #10 
  - Of course there is no time limit.  randome   Nov-17-11 11:46 AM   #15 
     - Some judges have disagreed with your position.. n/t  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 11:47 AM   #16 
     - And some have agreed.  randome   Nov-17-11 11:51 AM   #19 
        - How do you think we should "pressure our legislators"?  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 11:54 AM   #22 
           - The march on Wall Street is a step in the right direction.  randome   Nov-17-11 12:00 PM   #26 
              - I keep saying GO TO YOUR LOCAL GA  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 12:04 PM   #28 
              - You might recall the coverage given to the protests at the first Dubya inauguration..  Fumesucker   Nov-17-11 12:26 PM   #37 
     - You are obtusely confusing  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 11:51 AM   #21 
        - I am not disagreeing with the idea that public spaces belong to everyone.  randome   Nov-17-11 11:55 AM   #23 
        - Here is the problem  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 11:57 AM   #24 
           - Again, a side issue.  randome   Nov-17-11 12:05 PM   #30 
              - It is about equality  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 12:07 PM   #34 
                 - It's never been legal to take-up long term residence in public areas  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-17-11 12:25 PM   #36 
        - But the Supreme Court has already agreed  Mr Gerrity   Nov-17-11 11:59 AM   #25 
           - This is about to be re-argued  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 12:02 PM   #27 
           - Great news  Mr Gerrity   Nov-17-11 12:05 PM   #29 
           - Will make it's way with the slew of cases  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 12:06 PM   #32 
           - Really? When are the SCOTUS oral arguments scheduled? n/t  Azathoth   Nov-17-11 01:17 PM   #46 
              - As soon as a few cases make their way  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 02:28 PM   #53 
           - LOL! Was that about long term camping?  KittyWampus   Nov-17-11 01:22 PM   #49 
              - Did you read it?  Mr Gerrity   Nov-17-11 02:00 PM   #52 
  - Fox & Co are exploiting the situation from many angles.  vcc   Nov-17-11 11:42 AM   #13 
  - I think the mayors are more concerned about commerce, business, and appearances in their towns  bigtree   Nov-17-11 11:41 AM   #11 
  - Of course they are!  randome   Nov-17-11 11:48 AM   #17 
  - Breaking up the camps  kctim   Nov-17-11 12:34 PM   #39 
  - They're breaking up the camps because the municipalities are tired of them  Azathoth   Nov-17-11 01:02 PM   #44 
  - They are breaking up the camp in NYC because a public park is NOT A CAMP GROUND.  KittyWampus   Nov-17-11 01:06 PM   #45 
  - Why don't they  Morning Dew   Nov-17-11 11:42 AM   #12 
  - silly message, silly tactics, but...  BOG PERSON   Nov-17-11 12:06 PM   #33 
  - Economic justice is a silly message...  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 12:09 PM   #35 
  - For those criticizing their tactics... who has been consistently in the news for over a month now?  justiceischeap   Nov-17-11 12:26 PM   #38 
  - The TP was in the news for quite some time as well.  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-17-11 12:37 PM   #40 
  - good point  Puzzledtraveller   Nov-17-11 12:53 PM   #41 
  - Tea Party had a defined message  Harmony Blue   Nov-17-11 01:21 PM   #48 
  - There's a second component to having a defined message.  Nuclear Unicorn   Nov-17-11 01:28 PM   #50 
  - You mean their antics once they took power?  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 02:37 PM   #54 
  - Right.  randome   Nov-17-11 12:58 PM   #43 
     - Alas this is not the place  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-17-11 02:38 PM   #55 
  - Their core message is good, but specifics are needed. Tactics are starting to wear thin. n/t  Azathoth   Nov-17-11 12:56 PM   #42 
  - The GA at OWS put out specific already  Harmony Blue   Nov-17-11 01:32 PM   #51 
  - They need to keep the message as it is and keep the peace.  applegrove   Nov-17-11 10:57 PM   #56 
  - right now an ad is hovering over the option I'd click...  vcc   Nov-17-11 11:05 PM   #57 
 

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