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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #55
59. They aren't provoking a response.
But if you know a response will be made and it's not a fight that has anything to do with your presence in the first place, don't stay there and let yourselves be abused.

The fight needs to be with the legislators. Is OWS determined to prove the police are poorly trained bastards who over-react? What does that have to do with the widespread economic injustice that brought OWS together in the first place?
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  -Reboot OWS. randome  Nov-16-11 12:48 PM   #0 
  - You lost me at "... it has lost sight of its original purpose."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-16-11 01:02 PM   #1 
  - Too much time is being spent on squabbling with the police.  randome   Nov-16-11 01:06 PM   #3 
  - That brings more publicity...  CJCRANE   Nov-16-11 01:10 PM   #5 
  - Walk and chew gum.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-16-11 01:12 PM   #8 
  - Too much time is being spent on squabbling with the police????  piratefish08   Nov-16-11 01:41 PM   #21 
  - Who cares what TPTB think? nt  TBF   Nov-16-11 01:42 PM   #23 
  - Riddle me this  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 02:49 PM   #55 
     - They aren't provoking a response.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:01 PM   #59 
        - Time to compare and contrast  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:06 PM   #61 
           - I thought civil rights could be equated with OWS, too.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:11 PM   #63 
              - So are your first and fourth ammendment rights NOT  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:14 PM   #65 
              - I don't see camping out the same way you do.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:24 PM   #68 
                 - self delete du burp  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:35 PM   # 
                 - You really need to get out more  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:35 PM   #74 
                    - I'm not afraid of speaking with anybody, OWS or not.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:48 PM   #77 
                       - You are stuck in the conventional thinking  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:50 PM   #79 
                          - It also doesn't work by fighting municipalities...  randome   Nov-16-11 03:55 PM   #82 
                             - The latter are... why they are trying to destroy it  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 04:00 PM   #84 
                                - Encampments are not the same as protesting.  randome   Nov-16-11 04:17 PM   #91 
                                   - The camps go well beyond just camping  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 04:24 PM   #95 
                                   - Explain why people can camp out for tickets to the next Twilight movie  MedleyMisty   Nov-16-11 06:21 PM   #105 
                                      - Because there are fewer of them and they only stay for a day or two?  hack89   Nov-17-11 02:50 PM   #115 
              - May I respond?  PETRUS   Nov-16-11 05:29 PM   #100 
  - I agree, though I read a little further only to give up again  lunatica   Nov-16-11 01:11 PM   #6 
     - It's about marginalizing.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-16-11 01:13 PM   #9 
     - So you DO think the goal of economic justice for all...  randome   Nov-16-11 01:31 PM   #14 
     - "...squabbling with the police over camping rights?"  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-17-11 02:07 PM   #112 
        - It's a distraction trying to take over public parks.  randome   Nov-17-11 02:10 PM   #113 
           - I'll say it slow...  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-17-11 02:20 PM   #114 
     - Yep.  Zorra   Nov-16-11 01:36 PM   #16 
     - 'Boss'?  randome   Nov-16-11 01:19 PM   #10 
     - Yeah, just before you decided unilaterally to 'rename' OWS  lunatica   Nov-16-11 01:44 PM   #26 
     - 'Unilaterally', huh?  randome   Nov-16-11 02:40 PM   #51 
        - Maybe you can delude yourself, but it doesn't work on everybody  lunatica   Nov-16-11 02:50 PM   #56 
     - Then perhaps your time might be better spent showing up at a  Missy Vixen   Nov-16-11 03:46 PM   #76 
        - No.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:50 PM   #78 
           - Of course not.  Missy Vixen   Nov-16-11 09:01 PM   #111 
     - I agree..  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-16-11 01:22 PM   #12 
  - "Occupy ..." is a good name because it's both local and global.  CJCRANE   Nov-16-11 01:04 PM   #2 
  - Yeah, I love the word 'Occupy'.  randome   Nov-16-11 01:08 PM   #4 
     - Occupy Is A State Of Mind...  CJCRANE   Nov-16-11 01:11 PM   #7 
  - You should start your own movement.  lunatica   Nov-16-11 01:22 PM   #11 
  - It already exists - it's called capitalism. Just another apologist. nt  TBF   Nov-16-11 02:14 PM   #40 
  - Look, I firmly support OWS....  vi5   Nov-16-11 01:23 PM   #13 
  - I think maybe there are not enough desperate people yet.  randome   Nov-16-11 01:36 PM   #17 
  - Were you there in the 60s?  lunatica   Nov-16-11 01:39 PM   #19 
  - Wall Street is a symbol  lunatica   Nov-16-11 01:37 PM   #18 
  - Why in the world would we occupy DC? They work for the 1% - so OWS went  TBF   Nov-16-11 01:44 PM   #27 
  - The 1% are in Oakland? Baltimore? San Francisco?  randome   Nov-16-11 01:54 PM   #31 
  - lol - not a "moral failing to be rich"  TBF   Nov-16-11 01:58 PM   #33 
     - Where does Capitalism gets its power?  randome   Nov-16-11 02:03 PM   #35 
        - You've got it backwards - wealth is the driver.  TBF   Nov-16-11 02:05 PM   #37 
           - Rather than fight a few million ultra-rich dudes...  randome   Nov-16-11 02:09 PM   #38 
           - There are not a few million ultra-rich dudes -  TBF   Nov-16-11 02:13 PM   #39 
              - So then what is the goal?  vi5   Nov-16-11 02:24 PM   #43 
              - As far as I'm concerned the economic system has to be changed -  TBF   Nov-16-11 02:34 PM   #47 
                 - Who controls how changes are made?  randome   Nov-16-11 02:37 PM   #49 
                 - This is pointless -  TBF   Nov-16-11 02:42 PM   #52 
                    - I am very much in favor of protest.  randome   Nov-16-11 02:53 PM   #57 
                 - That's me too. The economic system needs to be changed.  vi5   Nov-16-11 03:17 PM   #67 
                    - I'm not annoyed at you for asking questions. Also not asking anyone to clap for anything.  TBF   Nov-16-11 03:54 PM   #81 
                       - Then I agree....  vi5   Nov-16-11 04:05 PM   #85 
                       - I completely agree with your first two statements -  TBF   Nov-16-11 04:23 PM   #94 
                       - Why will crushing commerce fix things?  dkf   Nov-16-11 06:29 PM   #106 
              - Where are those 400 families, then?  randome   Nov-16-11 02:33 PM   #46 
           - The hard part is that, yes the Govt is bought, but then do you desert Democrats?  dkf   Nov-16-11 06:20 PM   #103 
              - I still vote, straight dem, for all the good that does me here in TX.  TBF   Nov-16-11 07:40 PM   #110 
  - What the --- makes you think we are not Occupying DC? The difference is you don't see thuggery in DC  Leopolds Ghost   Nov-16-11 03:29 PM   #70 
     - But is ferreting out thuggery the point of OWS in other cities?  randome   Nov-16-11 03:33 PM   #72 
        - We have been trying to tell you this  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 04:05 PM   #86 
           - I'm not arguing with that.  randome   Nov-16-11 04:15 PM   #89 
              - They are NOT just waiting around  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 04:22 PM   #93 
  - The point of the movement is to get people out on the streets.  tcaudilllg   Nov-16-11 02:18 PM   #41 
  - I wasn't implying supporting the Newt for president.  randome   Nov-16-11 02:24 PM   #44 
  - We ARE occupying DC. The DIFFERENCE is that the DINOs don't have the guts to bring their jackbooted  Leopolds Ghost   Nov-16-11 03:27 PM   #69 
     - Good point about D.C.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:31 PM   #71 
  - Occupiers seem to have the message and the spirit of this  The Wielding Truth   Nov-16-11 01:33 PM   #15 
  - Exactly.  lunatica   Nov-16-11 01:41 PM   #20 
  - YOU can hear the message.  randome   Nov-16-11 01:44 PM   #25 
     - You think that TPTB are not concerned? Were you awake yesterday?  TBF   Nov-16-11 01:46 PM   #28 
        - Is he one of the corporate overlords?  randome   Nov-16-11 01:49 PM   #29 
           - #12 on the list kimosabe -  TBF   Nov-16-11 01:52 PM   #30 
           - Fine. He's rich.  randome   Nov-16-11 02:04 PM   #36 
              - That's your argument not mine - I was just pointing out who is he since you didn't seem to know. nt  TBF   Nov-16-11 02:37 PM   #50 
           - dude - you really need to brush up on current events before preparing a manifesto  piratefish08   Nov-16-11 01:54 PM   #32 
              - 'Manifesto'?  randome   Nov-16-11 02:01 PM   #34 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-16-11 01:42 PM   #22 
  - Reboot this thread.  piratefish08   Nov-16-11 01:44 PM   #24 
  - ....  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-16-11 03:15 PM   #66 
  - I'm not sure it's been sufficiently booted, yet. n/t  gkhouston   Nov-16-11 06:37 PM   #107 
  - I disagree with your basic assertions  procon   Nov-16-11 02:20 PM   #42 
  - Welcome to DU  lunatica   Nov-16-11 02:28 PM   #45 
  - I agree they are getting a message across.  randome   Nov-16-11 02:35 PM   #48 
     - I will try this  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:03 PM   #60 
        - I see local mayors and police trying to deal with a very difficult situation.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:08 PM   #62 
           - If that is all you see on OWS, you really need  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:13 PM   #64 
  - "Should we be courting Newt to stand with us?"  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-16-11 02:45 PM   #53 
  - Yeah, well, I wanted to spur a discussion.  randome   Nov-16-11 02:48 PM   #54 
  - New left, meet OWS... OWS meet new left  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:00 PM   #58 
  - OWS has one fundamental problem that keeps it from having a "Tea Party" effect.  Xithras   Nov-16-11 03:35 PM   #73 
  - Wow.  randome   Nov-16-11 03:40 PM   #75 
  - At some point you need to start translating "planning" into "acting".  Xithras   Nov-16-11 03:52 PM   #80 
  - Two problems wiht this analysis  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 03:57 PM   #83 
  - I've never entirely agreed with that analysis  Xithras   Nov-16-11 04:12 PM   #88 
     - But what they are doing is new branding to a tactic  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 04:17 PM   #90 
        - I hope you're right.  randome   Nov-16-11 04:27 PM   #96 
           - It will happen when it happens  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-16-11 04:33 PM   #97 
  - "....they are rarely effective at achieving actual policy change."  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-16-11 04:10 PM   #87 
     - Wow, you really need to read some political history.  Xithras   Nov-16-11 04:18 PM   #92 
        - They started out as protests. And got results AS protests.  Hell Hath No Fury   Nov-16-11 05:00 PM   #99 
  - Thank You for Raising the Discussion, Randome,  On the Road   Nov-16-11 04:58 PM   #98 
  - Thank YOU for joining the conversation.  randome   Nov-16-11 06:13 PM   #101 
  - "Arab Spring that will lead to Obama stepping down..."  hay rick   Nov-16-11 06:17 PM   #102 
  - As some have pointed out upstream...  randome   Nov-16-11 06:21 PM   #104 
  - Agree 100% with economic decline as the new normal.  dkf   Nov-16-11 07:21 PM   #109 
  - Nice post.  dkf   Nov-16-11 07:14 PM   #108 
  - Discussion.  hay rick   Nov-18-11 05:15 PM   #116 
 

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