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Wed Nov-16-11 01:44 PM
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| -Reboot OWS. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 12:48 PM |
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You lost me at "... it has lost sight of its original purpose." |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-16-11 01:02 PM |
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Too much time is being spent on squabbling with the police. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:06 PM |
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That brings more publicity... |
CJCRANE |
Nov-16-11 01:10 PM |
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Walk and chew gum. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-16-11 01:12 PM |
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Too much time is being spent on squabbling with the police???? |
piratefish08 |
Nov-16-11 01:41 PM |
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Who cares what TPTB think? nt |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 01:42 PM |
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Riddle me this |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 02:49 PM |
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They aren't provoking a response. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:01 PM |
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Time to compare and contrast |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:06 PM |
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I thought civil rights could be equated with OWS, too. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:11 PM |
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So are your first and fourth ammendment rights NOT |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:14 PM |
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I don't see camping out the same way you do. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:24 PM |
#68 |
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self delete du burp |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:35 PM |
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You really need to get out more |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:35 PM |
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I'm not afraid of speaking with anybody, OWS or not. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:48 PM |
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You are stuck in the conventional thinking |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:50 PM |
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It also doesn't work by fighting municipalities... |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:55 PM |
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The latter are... why they are trying to destroy it |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 04:00 PM |
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Encampments are not the same as protesting. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 04:17 PM |
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The camps go well beyond just camping |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 04:24 PM |
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Explain why people can camp out for tickets to the next Twilight movie |
MedleyMisty |
Nov-16-11 06:21 PM |
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Because there are fewer of them and they only stay for a day or two? |
hack89 |
Nov-17-11 02:50 PM |
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May I respond? |
PETRUS |
Nov-16-11 05:29 PM |
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I agree, though I read a little further only to give up again |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 01:11 PM |
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It's about marginalizing. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-16-11 01:13 PM |
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So you DO think the goal of economic justice for all... |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:31 PM |
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"...squabbling with the police over camping rights?" |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-17-11 02:07 PM |
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It's a distraction trying to take over public parks. |
randome |
Nov-17-11 02:10 PM |
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I'll say it slow... |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-17-11 02:20 PM |
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Yep. |
Zorra |
Nov-16-11 01:36 PM |
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'Boss'? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:19 PM |
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Yeah, just before you decided unilaterally to 'rename' OWS |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 01:44 PM |
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'Unilaterally', huh? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:40 PM |
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Maybe you can delude yourself, but it doesn't work on everybody |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 02:50 PM |
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Then perhaps your time might be better spent showing up at a |
Missy Vixen |
Nov-16-11 03:46 PM |
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No. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:50 PM |
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Of course not. |
Missy Vixen |
Nov-16-11 09:01 PM |
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I agree.. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-16-11 01:22 PM |
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"Occupy ..." is a good name because it's both local and global. |
CJCRANE |
Nov-16-11 01:04 PM |
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Yeah, I love the word 'Occupy'. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:08 PM |
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Occupy Is A State Of Mind... |
CJCRANE |
Nov-16-11 01:11 PM |
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You should start your own movement. |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 01:22 PM |
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It already exists - it's called capitalism. Just another apologist. nt |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 02:14 PM |
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Look, I firmly support OWS.... |
vi5 |
Nov-16-11 01:23 PM |
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I think maybe there are not enough desperate people yet. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:36 PM |
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Were you there in the 60s? |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 01:39 PM |
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Wall Street is a symbol |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 01:37 PM |
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Why in the world would we occupy DC? They work for the 1% - so OWS went |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 01:44 PM |
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The 1% are in Oakland? Baltimore? San Francisco? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:54 PM |
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lol - not a "moral failing to be rich" |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 01:58 PM |
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Where does Capitalism gets its power? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:03 PM |
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You've got it backwards - wealth is the driver. |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 02:05 PM |
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Rather than fight a few million ultra-rich dudes... |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:09 PM |
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There are not a few million ultra-rich dudes - |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 02:13 PM |
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So then what is the goal? |
vi5 |
Nov-16-11 02:24 PM |
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As far as I'm concerned the economic system has to be changed - |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 02:34 PM |
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Who controls how changes are made? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:37 PM |
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This is pointless - |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 02:42 PM |
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I am very much in favor of protest. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:53 PM |
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That's me too. The economic system needs to be changed. |
vi5 |
Nov-16-11 03:17 PM |
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I'm not annoyed at you for asking questions. Also not asking anyone to clap for anything. |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 03:54 PM |
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Then I agree.... |
vi5 |
Nov-16-11 04:05 PM |
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I completely agree with your first two statements - |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 04:23 PM |
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Why will crushing commerce fix things? |
dkf |
Nov-16-11 06:29 PM |
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Where are those 400 families, then? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:33 PM |
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The hard part is that, yes the Govt is bought, but then do you desert Democrats? |
dkf |
Nov-16-11 06:20 PM |
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I still vote, straight dem, for all the good that does me here in TX. |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 07:40 PM |
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What the --- makes you think we are not Occupying DC? The difference is you don't see thuggery in DC |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-16-11 03:29 PM |
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But is ferreting out thuggery the point of OWS in other cities? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:33 PM |
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We have been trying to tell you this |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 04:05 PM |
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I'm not arguing with that. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 04:15 PM |
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They are NOT just waiting around |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 04:22 PM |
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The point of the movement is to get people out on the streets. |
tcaudilllg |
Nov-16-11 02:18 PM |
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I wasn't implying supporting the Newt for president. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:24 PM |
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We ARE occupying DC. The DIFFERENCE is that the DINOs don't have the guts to bring their jackbooted |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-16-11 03:27 PM |
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Good point about D.C. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:31 PM |
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Occupiers seem to have the message and the spirit of this |
The Wielding Truth |
Nov-16-11 01:33 PM |
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Exactly. |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 01:41 PM |
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YOU can hear the message. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:44 PM |
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You think that TPTB are not concerned? Were you awake yesterday? |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 01:46 PM |
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Is he one of the corporate overlords? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 01:49 PM |
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#12 on the list kimosabe - |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 01:52 PM |
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Fine. He's rich. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:04 PM |
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That's your argument not mine - I was just pointing out who is he since you didn't seem to know. nt |
TBF |
Nov-16-11 02:37 PM |
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dude - you really need to brush up on current events before preparing a manifesto |
piratefish08 |
Nov-16-11 01:54 PM |
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'Manifesto'? |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:01 PM |
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Name removed |
Nov-16-11 01:42 PM |
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Reboot this thread. |
piratefish08 |
Nov-16-11 01:44 PM |
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.... |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-16-11 03:15 PM |
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I'm not sure it's been sufficiently booted, yet. n/t |
gkhouston |
Nov-16-11 06:37 PM |
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I disagree with your basic assertions |
procon |
Nov-16-11 02:20 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
lunatica |
Nov-16-11 02:28 PM |
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I agree they are getting a message across. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:35 PM |
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I will try this |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:03 PM |
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I see local mayors and police trying to deal with a very difficult situation. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:08 PM |
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If that is all you see on OWS, you really need |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:13 PM |
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"Should we be courting Newt to stand with us?" |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Nov-16-11 02:45 PM |
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Yeah, well, I wanted to spur a discussion. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 02:48 PM |
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New left, meet OWS... OWS meet new left |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:00 PM |
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OWS has one fundamental problem that keeps it from having a "Tea Party" effect. |
Xithras |
Nov-16-11 03:35 PM |
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Wow. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 03:40 PM |
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At some point you need to start translating "planning" into "acting". |
Xithras |
Nov-16-11 03:52 PM |
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Two problems wiht this analysis |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 03:57 PM |
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I've never entirely agreed with that analysis |
Xithras |
Nov-16-11 04:12 PM |
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But what they are doing is new branding to a tactic |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 04:17 PM |
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I hope you're right. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 04:27 PM |
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It will happen when it happens |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-16-11 04:33 PM |
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"....they are rarely effective at achieving actual policy change." |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Nov-16-11 04:10 PM |
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Wow, you really need to read some political history. |
Xithras |
Nov-16-11 04:18 PM |
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They started out as protests. And got results AS protests. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Nov-16-11 05:00 PM |
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Thank You for Raising the Discussion, Randome, |
On the Road |
Nov-16-11 04:58 PM |
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Thank YOU for joining the conversation. |
randome |
Nov-16-11 06:13 PM |
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"Arab Spring that will lead to Obama stepping down..." |
hay rick |
Nov-16-11 06:17 PM |
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As some have pointed out upstream... |
randome |
Nov-16-11 06:21 PM |
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Agree 100% with economic decline as the new normal. |
dkf |
Nov-16-11 07:21 PM |
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Nice post. |
dkf |
Nov-16-11 07:14 PM |
#108 |
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Discussion. |
hay rick |
Nov-18-11 05:15 PM |
#116 |
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