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Wed Jan-19-11 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 46. "lifting the cap on fica is a good thing because it would tax billionaires." |
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Isn't that what I said?
"an increase in INCOME TAX on billionaires = money to pay back the trust fund."
Yeah, but why try to make it seem like the other idea is a straw man?
If Social Security isn't in crisis, increasing the income cap alone could replenish the trust fund. Some have suggested a FICA tax on capital gains.
Increasing income tax on billionaires is useful for a lot of other purposes.
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| -Oops... 'Obama's Social Security Talk Is Turning Voters Off, Pollsters Say' - Dan Froomkin/HuffPo |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 04:36 PM |
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what a load of bull |
Uzybone |
Jan-19-11 04:37 PM |
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er, the same as Obama's? |
DJ13 |
Jan-19-11 04:40 PM |
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no, read up on their position |
Uzybone |
Jan-19-11 04:43 PM |
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President Obama has barely tried to differentiate the Dem and Rep positions, imo. |
theophilus |
Jan-19-11 05:09 PM |
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I agree completely. n/t |
whathehell |
Jan-19-11 05:24 PM |
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+++ |
emilyg |
Jan-19-11 06:29 PM |
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LOL !!! - You Mean THESE People ??? |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 05:15 PM |
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"The Republican Party won decisive control of the House in this year's midterm elections" |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:24 PM |
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My Point Was The... 'Less than half know GOP won the House' Part... |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 05:29 PM |
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I agree completely. nt |
Bobbie Jo |
Jan-20-11 12:29 PM |
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More like a load of reality |
Smashcut |
Jan-20-11 03:56 PM |
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"Americans now trust Republicans in Congress more than Democrats when it comes to Social Security " |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 04:42 PM |
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This should state: Rampant speculation about Social Security cuts |
DJ13 |
Jan-19-11 04:46 PM |
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Why? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 04:50 PM |
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If he has no plans to undercut SS, why not? |
DJ13 |
Jan-19-11 04:56 PM |
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What? n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 04:57 PM |
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Why take the PR hit if he isnt planning on messing with it |
DJ13 |
Jan-19-11 05:03 PM |
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A "PR hit" created by Democrats? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:10 PM |
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No, a "PR hit" from supporters of Social Security |
DJ13 |
Jan-19-11 05:14 PM |
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"Which side are you on?" |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:17 PM |
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Ya See Pro... THAT Is The Problem... |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 05:26 PM |
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+100 |
whathehell |
Jan-19-11 05:27 PM |
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Well here's a bigger problem |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:30 PM |
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It's Called A "Heads-Up" !!! |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 05:34 PM |
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Head's-up? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:38 PM |
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Tell Ya What... |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 06:07 PM |
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Jan-19-11 11:08 PM |
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Jan-19-11 11:13 PM |
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Yes, make no mistake, no REAL Democrat |
Enthusiast |
Jan-20-11 10:02 AM |
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Yeah, it's not like Andrew Breitbart blogged about it |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-19-11 10:59 PM |
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LOL! nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-20-11 10:03 AM |
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It is his job |
Caretha |
Jan-19-11 08:45 PM |
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Yeah, SS is such a minor issue ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 09:32 PM |
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Well... Obama Could... You Know... Take A Stand... |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 04:49 PM |
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Like that |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 04:54 PM |
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"is absurd that billionaires pay the same amount into the system as someone who earns $106,800." |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-19-11 05:07 PM |
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Wait |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:13 PM |
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Jan-19-11 05:18 PM |
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What? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:21 PM |
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and the crap in the article about lifting the cap on fica to tax "billionaires" has nothing to do |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-19-11 05:25 PM |
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What the hell does the income tax have to do with Social Security? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:28 PM |
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the article is the one who introduced the subject of billionaires to the discussion, saying that |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-19-11 05:37 PM |
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"lifting the cap on fica is a good thing because it would tax billionaires." |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:44 PM |
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Jan-19-11 05:47 PM |
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Jan-19-11 05:51 PM |
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Jan-19-11 05:56 PM |
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I got your point, but you have no response. |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 06:03 PM |
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Totally agree! Found that out during the HC discussions :) n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 06:03 PM |
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What don't you understand? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 06:02 PM |
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I understand that you do not understand when it is convenient for your POV... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 06:34 PM |
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kick n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 09:51 PM |
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That was in October. In January he extended the Bush tax cuts. |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 07:35 PM |
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for continuously making this point ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 05:38 PM |
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Take a stand...yes, that would be nice...nt |
old mark |
Jan-20-11 04:39 AM |
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Has Obama come out and corrected that speculation? He's |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 06:00 PM |
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My bet, the response will be crickets :( n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 06:54 PM |
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That is too bad. I really would like an answer, from someone, |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 07:33 PM |
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Jan-19-11 09:29 PM |
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Sadly, it appears you are correct. However, I have done a little |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 10:30 PM |
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Unfortunately words and subsequent actions are not always the same... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 10:49 PM |
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Having fun? |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 10:35 PM |
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You can believe in talk if you want, I'll believe the talk when followed by actions... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 11:19 PM |
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Well, that settles it |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 11:27 PM |
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Well then why post blue links to his stated positions when he has backed away from them... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 11:55 PM |
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Excellent post, sometimes I think I was dreaming when I |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-20-11 04:02 AM |
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Perfect argument. nt |
Enthusiast |
Jan-20-11 10:06 AM |
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Is he prepared to tell us that his predecessors have lied about SS for years? |
tularetom |
Jan-19-11 04:49 PM |
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+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 04:51 PM |
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Interesting |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 04:56 PM |
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The man does not even know the history of the program |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-19-11 05:30 PM |
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I find it hard to reconcile Obama's "Social Security is not in crisis" with your |
emulatorloo |
Jan-19-11 05:04 PM |
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The President has been warning about Social Security ever since he was a candidate |
RufusTFirefly |
Jan-19-11 05:16 PM |
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Funny: |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 05:19 PM |
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Not really, he's been breaking promises since he took office...actually, even before |
whathehell |
Jan-19-11 05:32 PM |
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If he makes it clear that SS had nothing to do with the Deficit |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 07:31 PM |
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Since the payroll tax holiday (I know it has only been 3 weeks but still) |
kelly1mm |
Jan-19-11 08:35 PM |
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I don't buy that. If THEY consciously pulled a con on the American |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 10:25 PM |
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He needs to say; "Social security |
Enthusiast |
Jan-20-11 10:09 AM |
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I have never heard him say it either. He often uses that old |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-21-11 02:50 AM |
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Would love to see the questions. It is "Obama's Social Security Talk" or "Speculative Op-Eds Talk" |
emulatorloo |
Jan-19-11 05:07 PM |
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How was the question worded.... |
WCGreen |
Jan-19-11 05:14 PM |
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Link Works For Me, But It's A .pdf File... |
WillyT |
Jan-19-11 05:19 PM |
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Here's the content of the PDF - nothing about questions. |
emulatorloo |
Jan-19-11 05:28 PM |
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"Findings from an Election Eve/Night Survey of 1,200 Likely Voters Nationwide, Oct. 31-Nov. 2, 2010" |
ProSense |
Jan-19-11 06:22 PM |
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Voters oppose free trade deals by similar margins yet we keep getting them. |
Hello_Kitty |
Jan-19-11 11:06 PM |
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Not happy with either party on this issue and would want to know more about Lake's ... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 05:48 PM |
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Obama's plan to raise retirement age up to 70...(?) |
Imagevision |
Jan-19-11 05:36 PM |
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Do you have any Obama quotes? n/t |
emulatorloo |
Jan-19-11 07:23 PM |
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Do Obama appointees count? Or is he not allowed to delegate? (nt) |
w4rma |
Jan-20-11 11:19 AM |
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i really do`t trust either party |
madrchsod |
Jan-19-11 05:52 PM |
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i haven't heard 'Obama's social security talk' |
spanone |
Jan-19-11 06:00 PM |
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Gee, so something we haven't heard of except out of the mouths |
Arkana |
Jan-19-11 06:02 PM |
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LOL n/t |
emulatorloo |
Jan-19-11 07:23 PM |
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Do you have quotes from Obama making it clear that SS |
sabrina 1 |
Jan-19-11 07:54 PM |
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Recommend |
Poboy |
Jan-19-11 06:03 PM |
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Trust |
whosinpower |
Jan-19-11 06:03 PM |
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k and r but no one's listening. |
senseandsensibility |
Jan-19-11 06:42 PM |
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If you want to cut SS, you're in the wrong party. Period. |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-19-11 06:47 PM |
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EXACTLY correct, no REAL Democrat will ever suport |
Raine |
Jan-21-11 03:08 AM |
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K&R |
Little Star |
Jan-19-11 06:48 PM |
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DDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH ! |
L0oniX |
Jan-19-11 06:52 PM |
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Obama's social security talk? WTF?... |
SidDithers |
Jan-19-11 10:27 PM |
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Do not forget those who appointed the heads of the deficit reduction commission... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-19-11 11:22 PM |
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bold means |
snooper2 |
Jan-19-11 11:20 PM |
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I am a fairly informed person ... |
Kweli4Real |
Jan-20-11 10:34 AM |
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Then he had better come out and state, unequivically, that he won't do what he sounds like he is |
w4rma |
Jan-20-11 11:16 AM |
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Jan-20-11 12:44 PM |
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Pay attention to Obama's state of the union schpiel... |
Imagevision |
Jan-20-11 12:46 PM |
#105 |
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