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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 05:45 PM
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31. Read Saul Alinsky: the point of a non-violent protest is to get your opponent to fuck up
and make themselves look bad by issuing threats or even resorting to violence.

That makes people on the fence or even against your cause to rethink their position.


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  -I'm asking for ideas for tonight's GA. Occupy Portland is at a cross-roads. Rabblevox  Nov-14-11 01:42 PM   #0 
  - First, thank you for your service, Rabblevox...  NYC_SKP   Nov-14-11 01:49 PM   #1 
  - when you are arrested, ask every cop you come in contact with if they don't side with you...  yurbud   Nov-14-11 01:50 PM   #2 
  - keep going back to the same spot with more and more people until they can't afford to arrest you  yurbud   Nov-14-11 01:51 PM   #3 
  - tell them you'll leave when the state or even city figures out how to indict Goldman Sachs execs  yurbud   Nov-14-11 01:52 PM   #4 
  - you could even hold up signs with the address of Goldman Sachs & other Wall St crooks offices  yurbud   Nov-14-11 05:47 PM   #32 
  - I like this one for now.  TheKentuckian   Nov-14-11 02:09 PM   #11 
  - What is the point of occupying Portland?  FarCenter   Nov-14-11 01:52 PM   #5 
  - What is the point? WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT??? (excuse me while I take my blood pressure meds)...  Rabblevox   Nov-14-11 02:00 PM   #7 
  - PREACH it Rabblevox! Right on!  jtrockville   Nov-14-11 02:21 PM   #13 
  - That may all be true, but how is camping out in a park in Portland, OR going to affect that?  FarCenter   Nov-14-11 02:25 PM   #14 
     - Try actually reading my OP, then get back to me. /nt  Rabblevox   Nov-14-11 02:27 PM   #15 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-14-11 04:42 PM   #27 
  - What is the point of doing anything? What is the point of voting?  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-14-11 03:30 PM   #19 
  - Your screenname must indicate far *right* center?  Earth_First   Nov-14-11 04:17 PM   #23 
  - I like #2, not so much on #1.  TygrBright   Nov-14-11 01:58 PM   #6 
  - I like that. I actually like that a lot. Let me think it through a bit, I'll get back. /nt  Rabblevox   Nov-14-11 02:02 PM   #8 
     - Yeah. PM me if you want to discuss in any detail. But the point is to use your strongest assets.  TygrBright   Nov-14-11 02:08 PM   #9 
  - OccupyKC > Town Planning work group created a volunatry chores-list & is considering how  patrice   Nov-14-11 02:09 PM   #10 
  - Why not have "Flash Occupations"? Choose a place (say the business district) Have a few thousand  Vincardog   Nov-14-11 02:16 PM   #12 
  - I like that!  renate   Nov-14-11 04:49 PM   #28 
     - Thanks very much  Vincardog   Nov-15-11 10:05 AM   #36 
  - Think constituent services. It's why Strom Thurmond was in office for a thousand years, and....  chaska   Nov-14-11 03:04 PM   #16 
  - Nice! (and we do have the media and tech folk who could do that!) I disagree about one thing...  Rabblevox   Nov-14-11 03:11 PM   #17 
  - It's not just Portland at the crossroads...  FirstLight   Nov-14-11 03:26 PM   #18 
  - How about a rolling Occupy on the sidewalks?  Downwinder   Nov-14-11 03:38 PM   #20 
  - You definitely do need an offsite space for working groups  Dragonbreathp9d   Nov-14-11 04:02 PM   #21 
  - Occupy the offices of every GOP politician in the city  musiclawyer   Nov-14-11 04:15 PM   #22 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-14-11 04:29 PM   #24 
  - #OccupyForeclosures/vacant buildings.  Fire Walk With Me   Nov-14-11 04:38 PM   #25 
  - My two cents, and since I am not there please use huge grain of salt with this  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-14-11 04:38 PM   #26 
  - stay in the parks....  mike_c   Nov-14-11 05:11 PM   #29 
  - +1000  FirstLight   Nov-14-11 05:32 PM   #30 
  - Read Saul Alinsky: the point of a non-violent protest is to get your opponent to fuck up  yurbud   Nov-14-11 05:45 PM   #31 
  - I LOVE me some Alinsky (should be required reading in school) Here's what I'm bringing to the GA...  Rabblevox   Nov-14-11 08:29 PM   #33 
     - Also gives you a chance to win the Mom & Pop businesses  Downwinder   Nov-14-11 08:55 PM   #35 
  - OccupyKC also did Charlie Chaplin's speech from The Great Dictator, as peoples' mic, in one of our  patrice   Nov-14-11 08:50 PM   #34 
 

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