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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 10:19 AM
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85. DU would end at that point
Period. No one would pay that kind of money to post. And the OP's are what MAKE DU. I don't come here to get into snarky battles with people, I come here for the news, op eds, etc that people post.
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  -How about a thread for POSITIVE ideas to help Skinner make an equitable fee structure? Atman  Nov-14-11 07:31 AM   #0 
  - I already did in another thread  snooper2   Nov-14-11 07:34 AM   #1 
  - As predicted  Cirque du So-What   Nov-14-11 07:41 AM   #7 
  - That's not a shit stirrer..  snooper2   Nov-14-11 07:46 AM   #11 
     - You're showing a shit-scrubber  Cirque du So-What   Nov-14-11 08:07 AM   #28 
     - I don't think you would want to use a wooden spoon for that..  snooper2   Nov-14-11 08:48 AM   #55 
     - Eww...Is that toilet and tub light blue? How tacky.  Liberal Veteran   Nov-14-11 08:09 AM   #31 
        - reglazing is the way to go...  snooper2   Nov-14-11 08:51 AM   #57 
        - Can't decide  pipi_k   Nov-15-11 08:14 AM   #134 
  - I haven't made enough money to do a tax return..  Fumesucker   Nov-14-11 07:54 AM   #17 
  - Perhaps they have already done the math and concluded a rational fee for the site  Fire Walk With Me   Nov-14-11 07:34 AM   #2 
  - They concluded that ads make more than donations.  MjolnirTime   Nov-14-11 07:38 AM   #5 
  - IF DU is a non-profit organization, that doesn't mean they can't make a profit  WolverineDG   Nov-14-11 07:45 AM   #10 
  - Profit in someone's pocket is different than reinvestment, obviously  MjolnirTime   Nov-14-11 07:56 AM   #19 
     - Obviously they've use past profits to buy more servers & bandwidth  WolverineDG   Nov-14-11 08:59 AM   #61 
        - they will make more money with the new policy then they ever have.  MjolnirTime   Nov-14-11 03:44 PM   #115 
           - Does it matter to you?  WolverineDG   Nov-14-11 04:33 PM   #117 
  - No, DU is an LLC. It is not a non-profit. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-14-11 11:12 AM   #99 
  - Subscriber fees, ad revenue, or both  Amerigo Vespucci   Nov-14-11 07:59 AM   #23 
  - +100  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:14 AM   #36 
  - Yep, just because they are liberals, it doesn't mean they can't do the math.  CTyankee   Nov-14-11 08:47 AM   #54 
  - How about a lower rate if you are donating a star to another member?  livvy   Nov-14-11 07:34 AM   #3 
  - It is not that I am happy  zabet   Nov-14-11 07:35 AM   #4 
  - Look at what you just wrote- people to pay who cannot afford it..  snooper2   Nov-14-11 07:39 AM   #6 
     - just plain old mean. I get why you don't give a shit. And it isn't pretty. nt  boston bean   Nov-14-11 07:48 AM   #12 
     - So you think people who are in a poor financial situation should be giving any disposable income  snooper2   Nov-14-11 07:56 AM   #21 
        - Waitaminute! No discussion here...Xabet doesn't have a star NOW.  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:18 AM   #39 
           - You are missing  zabet   Nov-14-11 12:31 PM   #108 
     - Amazing...  zabet   Nov-14-11 08:40 AM   #52 
        - Again, zabet doesn't pay anything NOW.  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:51 AM   #58 
           - I paid when things  zabet   Nov-14-11 12:29 PM   #107 
              - Hey, the post was not directed at you! Chill...  Atman   Nov-14-11 12:50 PM   #109 
                 - No worries...  zabet   Nov-14-11 05:35 PM   #124 
  - I propose the creation of a slush fund so that those of us that can  Zorra   Nov-14-11 07:45 AM   #8 
  - Now that is a good idea.  RC   Nov-14-11 07:56 AM   #20 
  - Exactly.  Zorra   Nov-14-11 08:08 AM   #29 
  - yup. i might even step it up a tad, but we are watching our $, too. nt  seabeyond   Nov-14-11 08:14 AM   #37 
  - Exactly what i was thinking +1  Klukie   Nov-14-11 08:13 AM   #34 
  - i almost used exactly same words as you, lol. creative slush fund. nt  seabeyond   Nov-14-11 08:13 AM   #35 
  - Interesting.  Zorra   Nov-14-11 10:55 AM   #90 
     - ya. isnt that funny. and a couple of posters are taking it beyond. nt  seabeyond   Nov-14-11 11:11 AM   #98 
  - I agree with the slush fund. I'd donate to it  NBachers   Nov-14-11 08:26 AM   #45 
  - Also Proposed By Seabeyond. . .  ProfessorGAC   Nov-14-11 09:44 AM   #77 
  - Way too sane of a post here! People would rather freak out and throw a fit!  Logical   Nov-14-11 07:45 AM   #9 
  - How 'bout this for equitable...  SidDithers   Nov-14-11 07:49 AM   #13 
  - Oh, so if you can't afford it, you can be bombarded with ads that will pay for your way.  boston bean   Nov-14-11 07:56 AM   #18 
  - Sorry, that is bordering on crazy talk.  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:23 AM   #41 
  - It borders on an excellent point to remember. A site is nothing without content.  greyl   Nov-14-11 11:42 PM   #129 
  - Elite? I see a star beside your screen name.  MineralMan   Nov-14-11 08:35 AM   #47 
  - I never really liked the star, either...  JuniperLea   Nov-14-11 05:28 PM   #122 
  - Stop pretending that ads somehow do harm to you. They don't.  phleshdef   Nov-14-11 08:40 AM   #51 
  - Ads do harm to people with slow connections  lbrtbell   Nov-14-11 11:38 AM   #104 
     - No, ads do not "harm" people with slow connections.  Atman   Nov-14-11 12:13 PM   #106 
     - If you have that slow of a connection, you are going to have a lot of problems with a lot of sites.  phleshdef   Nov-14-11 02:22 PM   #112 
     - Meh...I used to have a slow connection  pipi_k   Nov-15-11 11:08 AM   #139 
  - So download a FREE ad blocker for your browser.  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 09:38 AM   #75 
  - Are you goig to put some quality control on those ads  Coyote_Bandit   Nov-14-11 09:16 AM   #67 
     - There isn't a browser on the market that doesn't have an ad blocker.  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 09:38 AM   #74 
     - Guess what?  Coyote_Bandit   Nov-14-11 09:47 AM   #79 
     - So, its ok to you that people surf DU while on the clock, on their employer's dime?  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 10:04 AM   #81 
        - Follow DU during the day  Coyote_Bandit   Nov-14-11 10:14 AM   #83 
           - So, first its the unemployed who can't afford it, now its all about  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 10:59 AM   #92 
              - +10  Atman   Nov-14-11 12:52 PM   #110 
     - How do you block it on an iPhone/iPad?  dkf   Nov-14-11 11:07 AM   #95 
        - I think a mobile version of DU3 is in the works...  SidDithers   Nov-14-11 11:09 AM   #96 
        - Just clear your cache, cookies and history when you're done surfing porn.  Atman   Nov-14-11 01:04 PM   #111 
           - Lol. How uncomfy would that be to ride in an elevator with a person looking up porn huh?  dkf   Nov-14-11 02:29 PM   #113 
     - Yeah those two ads were too much.  dkf   Nov-14-11 11:04 AM   #94 
     - The anti-meat ad and the vibrator ad were visible to donors, too  Orangepeel   Nov-14-11 11:56 PM   #130 
  - If more people gave during the fundraisers maybe we wouldn't be having....  Bonhomme Richard   Nov-14-11 07:49 AM   #14 
  - The fundraisers always meet their goal..  Fumesucker   Nov-14-11 07:56 AM   #22 
     - Good point. So why change unless it's to increase revenue?  Bonhomme Richard   Nov-14-11 08:14 AM   #38 
  - Money-saving ideas......  Uben   Nov-14-11 07:51 AM   #15 
  - My primary objection to the fee structure  Cirque du So-What   Nov-14-11 07:52 AM   #16 
  - sort of like those predatory money marts.  Whisp   Nov-14-11 08:12 AM   #33 
  - I think that's a vert valid argument.  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:25 AM   #43 
  - Right because viewing ads while you use a website is SUCH a penalty!!!  phleshdef   Nov-14-11 08:48 AM   #56 
     - We click on video links in posts, newspaper links in posts...they all bring me to ADS.  Atman   Nov-14-11 09:08 AM   #65 
     - I don't see ads  Cirque du So-What   Nov-14-11 09:23 AM   #70 
        - I consider insults to be quite adult. Theres nothing more childish than expecting a world where...  phleshdef   Nov-14-11 09:47 AM   #78 
  - I've said it before, I'll say it again. An OP on DU GD should cost $1  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-14-11 08:01 AM   #24 
  - Good way to exclude those tiresome poor people... n/t  Fumesucker   Nov-14-11 08:20 AM   #40 
  - How so? Did you read my post at all? Even one word of it?  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-14-11 10:37 AM   #87 
  - The Poster "The Straight Story" should be excluded from that  snooper2   Nov-14-11 09:00 AM   #62 
  - That's why a system of earning points for free posts could be implemented  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-14-11 10:40 AM   #88 
  - DU would end at that point  n2doc   Nov-14-11 10:19 AM   #85 
  - But members like you wouldn't pay to post.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-14-11 10:41 AM   #89 
     - Yeah. All 10 of you.  n2doc   Nov-14-11 11:09 AM   #97 
        - It's a system that works very well for the other media outlets.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-14-11 11:31 AM   #101 
  - It could be quite profitable...  pipi_k   Nov-15-11 08:55 AM   #135 
     - As Bartles & Jaymes used to say...  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-15-11 10:15 AM   #136 
        - Not familiar  pipi_k   Nov-15-11 11:06 AM   #138 
           - ...  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-15-11 05:10 PM   #140 
  - People are going to complain regardless  WolverineDG   Nov-14-11 08:01 AM   #25 
  - I think the reaction is inevitable, really. People naturally don't like a benefit to be taken  CTyankee   Nov-14-11 08:57 AM   #60 
  - I think the current structure is more equitable.  LWolf   Nov-14-11 08:04 AM   #26 
  - Until it's explained what the privilege difference is between a member and non  Whisp   Nov-14-11 08:05 AM   #27 
  - I can tell you, I probably wouldn't pay extra for nothing extra.  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:35 AM   #46 
  - Eleven and a half cents a day  dipsydoodle   Nov-14-11 08:08 AM   #30 
  - I'm cool with 11.5 cents a day especially since he is offering next year for five bucks if you need ...  peace13   Nov-14-11 08:09 AM   #32 
  - Reward positive participation and substantive commentary  Coyote_Bandit   Nov-14-11 08:24 AM   #42 
  - I'm not sure that your provisions promote your goal.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-14-11 11:01 AM   #93 
  - Skinner-- Here is my suggestion  Marrah_G   Nov-14-11 08:25 AM   #44 
  - Pledges would be ok. What ever the amount.  RegieRocker   Nov-14-11 08:38 AM   #50 
  - they might have considered that but it didn't work out in the math.  CTyankee   Nov-14-11 09:19 AM   #68 
  - Transaction costs to transfer those funds would kill that.  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 09:32 AM   #71 
  - Not a good idea.  RegieRocker   Nov-14-11 08:36 AM   #48 
  - "A yearly fee will drive most away." Care to substantiate that?  Atman   Nov-14-11 08:43 AM   #53 
  - The future will be my evidence. I have seen it happen many times.  RegieRocker   Nov-14-11 08:55 AM   #59 
     - I'll reply whether you want me to or not, thank you very much!  Atman   Nov-14-11 09:04 AM   #64 
        - You know nothing about conversation. You're not the King and this  RegieRocker   Nov-14-11 09:14 AM   #66 
           - Is this meant to be a joke? Really, I mean it...  Atman   Nov-14-11 09:37 AM   #73 
              - The joke is on you. Didn't bother to read your blather.  RegieRocker   Nov-14-11 10:47 PM   #126 
  - And who puts food on the table for those hosting the site or doing maintenance?  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 09:36 AM   #72 
     - How much would be raised from $42 per member per year?  leftstreet   Nov-14-11 11:13 AM   #100 
  - I'm going to be here. Star or no star  Autumn   Nov-14-11 08:37 AM   #49 
  - boy, do I ever remember the cold, gray dawn of 2005 when the reality of  CTyankee   Nov-14-11 09:00 AM   #63 
  - Get rid of the damned star.  Ruby the Liberal   Nov-14-11 09:19 AM   #69 
  - That's very interesting...  Phentex   Nov-14-11 09:43 AM   #76 
  - That is a "damned" good idea.  beac   Nov-14-11 10:02 AM   #80 
  - Un-recs for asking for something POSITIVE  Atman   Nov-14-11 10:11 AM   #82 
  - $20-30 a year discount for senior/low incomes  marlakay   Nov-14-11 10:19 AM   #84 
  - How about several levels of stars?  backscatter712   Nov-14-11 10:20 AM   #86 
  - My idea: paid contributors.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-14-11 10:55 AM   #91 
  - What a fantastic idea.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-14-11 11:33 AM   #102 
     - I envision that the *actual* transactions would take place monthly  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-14-11 03:11 PM   #114 
        - I agree.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-15-11 07:35 AM   #132 
  - Suggestion: If it ain't broke, don't fix it  lbrtbell   Nov-14-11 11:34 AM   #103 
  - I do not understand why so many people are unreccing this democratically  Zorra   Nov-14-11 11:55 AM   #105 
  - You want Skinner to suggest installing a browser with an ad blocker?  Amerigo Vespucci   Nov-14-11 03:49 PM   #116 
  - What? My post wasn't addressed to Skinner.  Atman   Nov-14-11 05:13 PM   #118 
  - I think there have been a LOT of positive ideas interspersed in these threads...  hlthe2b   Nov-14-11 05:19 PM   #119 
  - I'm too stunned... I could afford to pay that...  JuniperLea   Nov-14-11 05:25 PM   #120 
  - I am taken aback by so many unfazed by the whole move...  hlthe2b   Nov-14-11 05:33 PM   #123 
     - I think we are in the same space...  JuniperLea   Nov-14-11 05:38 PM   #125 
     - Very well said. nt  woo me with science   Nov-14-11 10:52 PM   #127 
  - Maybe some inventive adaptation of the Mobibo App  Motown_Johnny   Nov-14-11 05:25 PM   #121 
  - In a heartbeat, I'd pay $0.99 for a DU iPhone App...nt  SidDithers   Nov-14-11 10:53 PM   #128 
  - why don't they keep it the way it is? Do they need more funds? n/t  Hamlette   Nov-15-11 12:02 AM   #131 
  - Is Skinner looking for other ideas?  woo me with science   Nov-15-11 08:00 AM   #133 
  - My thread was calling for $1 a month, so it would be $12 at a time  XemaSab   Nov-15-11 10:18 AM   #137 
  - Why am I thinking of Netflix?  deaniac21   Nov-15-11 05:39 PM   #141 

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