Major Nikon
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Sun Nov-13-11 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 29. That is for sex offenders, which is a bigger pool than child molesters |
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The long term recidivism rates for child molesters is very high, and that's just the ones who are reconvicted. Since the reporting rate for child molestation is extremely low, the actual recidivism rate is undoubtedly much higher than reports typically show.
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| -Is it true that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated? |
leftyladyfrommo |
Nov-13-11 11:43 AM |
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That's what they say |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-13-11 11:44 AM |
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Castration as punishment, not as deterrent (of course). |
Ship of Fools |
Nov-13-11 11:47 AM |
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Or that 70 year old man that was just out for his morning walk. |
leftyladyfrommo |
Nov-13-11 11:50 AM |
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Was the man a known pedophile or soomething? |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-13-11 12:08 PM |
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Man was not a pedophile. |
former9thward |
Nov-13-11 02:08 PM |
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Dear God, I can't even read. Thanks for the info though. :( n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-13-11 02:31 PM |
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Actually, the rate of violent crime has been declining for 20 years. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-13-11 12:11 PM |
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It isn't well known. It's part reality, but largely mythology. |
Schema Thing |
Nov-13-11 12:28 PM |
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I get your point. I guess I may be using the word "rape" too broadly -- |
Ship of Fools |
Nov-14-11 03:45 AM |
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It's not always about rape, though... |
pipi_k |
Nov-13-11 01:31 PM |
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I kind of wonder about guys likeCain or Thomas? |
leftyladyfrommo |
Nov-13-11 11:49 AM |
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I disagree. They know that sexual harrassment is wrong |
TheDebbieDee |
Nov-13-11 12:18 PM |
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It might work on some of the men, but not the women n/t |
arcane1 |
Nov-13-11 11:53 AM |
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why wouldn't chemical castration |
Schema Thing |
Nov-13-11 12:31 PM |
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Castration is not the answer |
Cirque du So-What |
Nov-13-11 12:11 PM |
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I was working at the Johnson County Jail (nurse) |
Seedersandleechers |
Nov-13-11 12:43 PM |
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No, it doesn't |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-13-11 10:16 PM |
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I've convinced this shark to be a vegetarian. |
alphafemale |
Nov-13-11 11:57 AM |
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Seems unlikely, doesn't it? |
bemildred |
Nov-13-11 12:01 PM |
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Sorry but big pharma only gives us Viagra not Unviagra. nt |
valerief |
Nov-13-11 12:01 PM |
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Saltpeter would be the equivalent, I think.. |
X_Digger |
Nov-14-11 01:08 PM |
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They used to give soldiers saltpeter or saltpetre to keep them from having sexuals desires. |
Lint Head |
Nov-13-11 12:04 PM |
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That's a myth and it wouldn't work anyway |
Major Nikon |
Nov-13-11 12:36 PM |
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Thanks. I had heard that when I was drafted. Apparently it was made as a prank |
Lint Head |
Nov-14-11 09:45 PM |
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No, not at all - it's current dogma, and enforced by our current system... |
saras |
Nov-13-11 12:07 PM |
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Uh, your brain is a LOT more complicated than your liver. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-13-11 12:09 PM |
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The general consensus among the psychology community is they are not. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Nov-13-11 02:52 PM |
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Broadly speaking, no it's not true, although it depends on what you're looking at. |
TheWraith |
Nov-13-11 12:08 PM |
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I'm also curious about how they defined "molester" in that study |
XemaSab |
Nov-13-11 03:08 PM |
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I know how we can cure 'em, but it ain't rehabilitation.... |
wizstars |
Nov-13-11 10:19 PM |
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For the most part, yes. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-13-11 12:09 PM |
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Putting sick pedophiles with 9/11 truthers |
Politicalboi |
Nov-13-11 02:28 PM |
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I am comparing how both rationalize their nonsense. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-13-11 04:08 PM |
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the actual recidivism rate for sex offenders is quite low, despite the myth... |
mike_c |
Nov-13-11 12:10 PM |
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Here's a thought: why not spend a half hour or so online and research it a little? |
elocs |
Nov-13-11 12:13 PM |
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Opinions of DUers are as good as anybodies. |
bemildred |
Nov-13-11 12:33 PM |
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treatment reduces the likelihood of re-offending. |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-13-11 12:16 PM |
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That is for sex offenders, which is a bigger pool than child molesters |
Major Nikon |
Nov-13-11 12:45 PM |
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Can you link to a study which proves those statements? nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-13-11 01:02 PM |
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This is your best bet |
Major Nikon |
Nov-13-11 01:26 PM |
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very interesting article - but even this study reports a recidivism rate less than what many believe |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-13-11 02:32 PM |
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There's a couple of problems with this hypothesis |
Major Nikon |
Nov-13-11 02:54 PM |
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I strongly suspect it's not true in many, maybe even most, cases |
Schema Thing |
Nov-13-11 12:18 PM |
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That position is probably not accurate but it is easier and more emotionally satisfying |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-13-11 12:36 PM |
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Since the preference for children instead of peers, is probably innate to those people |
SoCalDem |
Nov-13-11 12:36 PM |
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Thank you very much for taking the time to explain that in such a thoughtful way |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-13-11 12:48 PM |
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You are very welcome |
SoCalDem |
Nov-13-11 01:00 PM |
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I had no idea how prevalent this was |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-13-11 01:19 PM |
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You can't be too careful, I guess |
SoCalDem |
Nov-13-11 02:13 PM |
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your mom sounds a bit over-the-top in her protectiveness - enough to make me wonder if she herself |
kath |
Nov-13-11 10:03 PM |
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You have underlined exactly why I will remain a widowed mom |
ScreamingMeemie |
Nov-13-11 01:35 PM |
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Many of my friends did not even introduce a "new man" until they had dated exclusively |
SoCalDem |
Nov-13-11 01:58 PM |
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you forgot "the youth minister" - a lot of child molestation occurs in fundie churches. |
kath |
Nov-13-11 09:57 PM |
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Good post. |
laundry_queen |
Nov-14-11 12:21 AM |
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Question is...... |
MzShellG |
Nov-13-11 01:27 PM |
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For actual pedophiles, as opposed to other sex offenders, probably true... |
TreasonousBastard |
Nov-13-11 01:38 PM |
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No it is not true. |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-13-11 01:49 PM |
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Seriously? |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Nov-13-11 02:56 PM |
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Mythology based on recidivism rates? As opposed to "consensus"? |
TheWraith |
Nov-13-11 03:00 PM |
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The point of my post was saying you are wrong. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Nov-13-11 05:29 PM |
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Psst. Hey. |
AngkorWot |
Nov-13-11 06:15 PM |
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The question is considerably more complex |
Major Nikon |
Nov-13-11 08:53 PM |
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LOL |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Nov-14-11 01:06 PM |
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99.99999% true. |
H2O Man |
Nov-13-11 02:15 PM |
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Call 1-800-282-2882 Monday and ask for Rush. |
TheCowsCameHome |
Nov-13-11 02:16 PM |
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I sometimes wonder if pedophilia is an orientation, like straight and gay, |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-13-11 02:49 PM |
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If you confuse homosexuality with pedophilia |
FloridaJudy |
Nov-13-11 04:21 PM |
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I have not confused the two, but I still would not rule out your alternative planet theory. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-13-11 07:33 PM |
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I don't think so, no. |
chrisa |
Nov-13-11 05:27 PM |
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Nov-13-11 02:52 PM |
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It's a sickness, NOT an orientation |
FloridaJudy |
Nov-13-11 04:53 PM |
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It's not their "Orientation." It's a mental illness. |
chrisa |
Nov-13-11 05:26 PM |
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I think they can be. |
chrisa |
Nov-13-11 05:36 PM |
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I think sexual preferences very difficult not to act on |
RZM |
Nov-13-11 05:50 PM |
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They're maybe not as incorrigible as bankers and oil barons |
kenny blankenship |
Nov-13-11 06:07 PM |
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I did a term paper on just that subject |
laylah |
Nov-13-11 06:18 PM |
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Wow, someone who actually researched this. Would you care to post your paper? |
BlueIris |
Nov-14-11 12:34 AM |
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If one ever touched a kid of mine, rehab would be the farthest thing from his mind. |
wizstars |
Nov-13-11 10:12 PM |
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