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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 12:11 PM
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16. Actually, the rate of violent crime has been declining for 20 years.
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  -Is it true that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated? leftyladyfrommo  Nov-13-11 11:43 AM   #0 
  - That's what they say  proud2BlibKansan   Nov-13-11 11:44 AM   #1 
  - Castration as punishment, not as deterrent (of course).  Ship of Fools   Nov-13-11 11:47 AM   #2 
  - Or that 70 year old man that was just out for his morning walk.  leftyladyfrommo   Nov-13-11 11:50 AM   #4 
  - Was the man a known pedophile or soomething?  OneGrassRoot   Nov-13-11 12:08 PM   #11 
  - Man was not a pedophile.  former9thward   Nov-13-11 02:08 PM   #41 
     - Dear God, I can't even read. Thanks for the info though. :( n/t  OneGrassRoot   Nov-13-11 02:31 PM   #46 
  - Actually, the rate of violent crime has been declining for 20 years.  Odin2005   Nov-13-11 12:11 PM   #16 
  - It isn't well known. It's part reality, but largely mythology.  Schema Thing   Nov-13-11 12:28 PM   #22 
  - I get your point. I guess I may be using the word "rape" too broadly --  Ship of Fools   Nov-14-11 03:45 AM   #75 
  - It's not always about rape, though...  pipi_k   Nov-13-11 01:31 PM   #36 
  - I kind of wonder about guys likeCain or Thomas?  leftyladyfrommo   Nov-13-11 11:49 AM   #3 
  - I disagree. They know that sexual harrassment is wrong  TheDebbieDee   Nov-13-11 12:18 PM   #20 
  - It might work on some of the men, but not the women n/t  arcane1   Nov-13-11 11:53 AM   #5 
  - why wouldn't chemical castration  Schema Thing   Nov-13-11 12:31 PM   #23 
  - Castration is not the answer  Cirque du So-What   Nov-13-11 12:11 PM   #17 
  - I was working at the Johnson County Jail (nurse)  Seedersandleechers   Nov-13-11 12:43 PM   #28 
  - No, it doesn't  TorchTheWitch   Nov-13-11 10:16 PM   #71 
  - I've convinced this shark to be a vegetarian.  alphafemale   Nov-13-11 11:57 AM   #6 
  - Seems unlikely, doesn't it?  bemildred   Nov-13-11 12:01 PM   #7 
  - Sorry but big pharma only gives us Viagra not Unviagra. nt  valerief   Nov-13-11 12:01 PM   #8 
  - Saltpeter would be the equivalent, I think..  X_Digger   Nov-14-11 01:08 PM   #77 
  - They used to give soldiers saltpeter or saltpetre to keep them from having sexuals desires.  Lint Head   Nov-13-11 12:04 PM   #9 
  - That's a myth and it wouldn't work anyway  Major Nikon   Nov-13-11 12:36 PM   #25 
     - Thanks. I had heard that when I was drafted. Apparently it was made as a prank  Lint Head   Nov-14-11 09:45 PM   #78 
  - No, not at all - it's current dogma, and enforced by our current system...  saras   Nov-13-11 12:07 PM   #10 
  - Uh, your brain is a LOT more complicated than your liver.  Odin2005   Nov-13-11 12:09 PM   #13 
  - The general consensus among the psychology community is they are not.  YellowRubberDuckie   Nov-13-11 02:52 PM   #50 
  - Broadly speaking, no it's not true, although it depends on what you're looking at.  TheWraith   Nov-13-11 12:08 PM   #12 
  - I'm also curious about how they defined "molester" in that study  XemaSab   Nov-13-11 03:08 PM   #54 
  - I know how we can cure 'em, but it ain't rehabilitation....  wizstars   Nov-13-11 10:19 PM   #72 
  - For the most part, yes.  Odin2005   Nov-13-11 12:09 PM   #14 
  - Putting sick pedophiles with 9/11 truthers  Politicalboi   Nov-13-11 02:28 PM   #45 
     - I am comparing how both rationalize their nonsense.  Odin2005   Nov-13-11 04:08 PM   #55 
  - the actual recidivism rate for sex offenders is quite low, despite the myth...  mike_c   Nov-13-11 12:10 PM   #15 
  - Here's a thought: why not spend a half hour or so online and research it a little?  elocs   Nov-13-11 12:13 PM   #18 
  - Opinions of DUers are as good as anybodies.  bemildred   Nov-13-11 12:33 PM   #24 
  - treatment reduces the likelihood of re-offending.  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-13-11 12:16 PM   #19 
  - That is for sex offenders, which is a bigger pool than child molesters  Major Nikon   Nov-13-11 12:45 PM   #29 
     - Can you link to a study which proves those statements? nt  TheWraith   Nov-13-11 01:02 PM   #32 
        - This is your best bet  Major Nikon   Nov-13-11 01:26 PM   #34 
           - very interesting article - but even this study reports a recidivism rate less than what many believe  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-13-11 02:32 PM   #47 
              - There's a couple of problems with this hypothesis  Major Nikon   Nov-13-11 02:54 PM   #51 
  - I strongly suspect it's not true in many, maybe even most, cases  Schema Thing   Nov-13-11 12:18 PM   #21 
  - That position is probably not accurate but it is easier and more emotionally satisfying  TheKentuckian   Nov-13-11 12:36 PM   #26 
  - Since the preference for children instead of peers, is probably innate to those people  SoCalDem   Nov-13-11 12:36 PM   #27 
  - Thank you very much for taking the time to explain that in such a thoughtful way  NNN0LHI   Nov-13-11 12:48 PM   #30 
  - You are very welcome  SoCalDem   Nov-13-11 01:00 PM   #31 
     - I had no idea how prevalent this was  NNN0LHI   Nov-13-11 01:19 PM   #33 
        - You can't be too careful, I guess  SoCalDem   Nov-13-11 02:13 PM   #42 
        - your mom sounds a bit over-the-top in her protectiveness - enough to make me wonder if she herself  kath   Nov-13-11 10:03 PM   #69 
  - You have underlined exactly why I will remain a widowed mom  ScreamingMeemie   Nov-13-11 01:35 PM   #37 
  - Many of my friends did not even introduce a "new man" until they had dated exclusively  SoCalDem   Nov-13-11 01:58 PM   #40 
  - you forgot "the youth minister" - a lot of child molestation occurs in fundie churches.  kath   Nov-13-11 09:57 PM   #68 
  - Good post.  laundry_queen   Nov-14-11 12:21 AM   #73 
  - Question is......  MzShellG   Nov-13-11 01:27 PM   #35 
  - For actual pedophiles, as opposed to other sex offenders, probably true...  TreasonousBastard   Nov-13-11 01:38 PM   #38 
  - No it is not true.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-13-11 01:49 PM   #39 
  - Seriously?  YellowRubberDuckie   Nov-13-11 02:56 PM   #52 
     - Mythology based on recidivism rates? As opposed to "consensus"?  TheWraith   Nov-13-11 03:00 PM   #53 
        - The point of my post was saying you are wrong.  YellowRubberDuckie   Nov-13-11 05:29 PM   #60 
           - Psst. Hey.  AngkorWot   Nov-13-11 06:15 PM   #64 
              - The question is considerably more complex  Major Nikon   Nov-13-11 08:53 PM   #67 
              - LOL  YellowRubberDuckie   Nov-14-11 01:06 PM   #76 
  - 99.99999% true.  H2O Man   Nov-13-11 02:15 PM   #43 
  - Call 1-800-282-2882 Monday and ask for Rush.  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-13-11 02:16 PM   #44 
  - I sometimes wonder if pedophilia is an orientation, like straight and gay,  ZombieHorde   Nov-13-11 02:49 PM   #48 
  - If you confuse homosexuality with pedophilia  FloridaJudy   Nov-13-11 04:21 PM   #56 
  - I have not confused the two, but I still would not rule out your alternative planet theory. nt  ZombieHorde   Nov-13-11 07:33 PM   #66 
  - I don't think so, no.  chrisa   Nov-13-11 05:27 PM   #59 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-13-11 02:52 PM   #49 
  - It's a sickness, NOT an orientation  FloridaJudy   Nov-13-11 04:53 PM   #57 
  - It's not their "Orientation." It's a mental illness.  chrisa   Nov-13-11 05:26 PM   #58 
  - I think they can be.  chrisa   Nov-13-11 05:36 PM   #61 
  - I think sexual preferences very difficult not to act on  RZM   Nov-13-11 05:50 PM   #62 
  - They're maybe not as incorrigible as bankers and oil barons  kenny blankenship   Nov-13-11 06:07 PM   #63 
  - I did a term paper on just that subject  laylah   Nov-13-11 06:18 PM   #65 
  - Wow, someone who actually researched this. Would you care to post your paper?  BlueIris   Nov-14-11 12:34 AM   #74 
  - If one ever touched a kid of mine, rehab would be the farthest thing from his mind.  wizstars   Nov-13-11 10:12 PM   #70 
 

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