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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 06:30 PM
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88. Oooooh, I miswrote the stat in my response, therefore, it's not something you'll comment on
The statistic remains the same. Less than one percent of rapists are successfully convicted and serve time behind bars. Sixty percent of rapes are not even reported.

>Third, I reject the idea that it is bad form to object to frequent coverup of the rape of boys.<

What is your point?

>Is an eyewitness to a child rape more or less likely to report it to police if the victim is a boy? The answer is definitely, demonstrably and obviously less.<

Oh, I see. In other words, you believe that what happened at Penn State can be extrapolated to the entire country.

News for you: Rape is rape. SIXTY PERCENT go unreported in this country because of the re-victimization of the victim via the court system. I cited ONE link after a one-minute Google search. I can cite plenty more, but you are too busy pushing your own agenda to acknowledge your bias.

I'd also like to echo other posters on this thread: Get some help.
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  -If Sandusky had been caught raping an 11 year old girl in 2000, he'd be in prison. lumberjack_jeff  Nov-10-11 10:15 AM   #0 
  - I don't think gender has to do with the cover up  Harmony Blue   Nov-10-11 10:18 AM   #1 
  - I think it 100% germane. I believe we will learn of more pedophile vs. boys, as with the RC Church.  WinkyDink   Nov-10-11 07:37 PM   #106 
  - polenski anyone? bullshit. girls and women are raped. rapist becomes victim  seabeyond   Nov-10-11 10:19 AM   #2 
  - If Jim Calhoun had caught him raping a girl in the shower in 2000  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 10:37 AM   #19 
     - too many girls and women are being raped and men are doing nothing. further, they are doing just  seabeyond   Nov-10-11 10:44 AM   #24 
     - As best I can tell, Polanski was arrested on the day of his crime. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:00 AM   #30 
        - And Then He Turned Tail And Ran While Hollywood Made Apologia  NashVegas   Nov-10-11 11:13 AM   #39 
     - Supposition.  LanternWaste   Nov-10-11 11:22 AM   #45 
  - I dunno  Mz Pip   Nov-10-11 10:20 AM   #3 
  - The powerful manage to cover up sexual abuse no matter the gender of the victim.  myrna minx   Nov-10-11 10:22 AM   #4 
  - I agree  Johonny   Nov-10-11 11:25 AM   #46 
  - Get A Clue  RobinA   Nov-10-11 12:20 PM   #60 
  - Yes. We ALL remember Roman Polanski.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 12:47 PM   #63 
     - Wow.  helderheid   Nov-10-11 11:01 PM   #133 
  - Gender is irrelevant.  RandomKoolzip   Nov-10-11 10:23 AM   #5 
  - Not to the OP, for whom gender is everything.  Bunny   Nov-10-11 12:08 PM   #55 
     - It's nice to have a following.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 02:33 PM   #71 
        - even if they are shaking their head in pity, thinking you need help?  bettyellen   Nov-10-11 08:30 PM   #110 
           - You are entitled to be wrong.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 09:35 PM   #120 
  - I don't agree that gender had anything to do wtih this coverup. This was about big college athletics  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 10:24 AM   #6 
  - He did get away with it far longer precisely because he was diddling the boys.  RC   Nov-10-11 10:32 AM   #15 
     - Or the victims, for all its equivalent relevancy...?  LanternWaste   Nov-10-11 11:37 AM   #49 
        - It might be relevant if the victim were wearing a star of david in the shower, maybe.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:43 AM   #51 
           - Almost as dishonest as focusing on speculative  LanternWaste   Nov-10-11 02:18 PM   #68 
              - Boys town. The Boy Scouts. The catholic church. Penn State.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 02:38 PM   #72 
                 - The FLDS compound and all the other polygamous compounds in the US  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 06:20 PM   #82 
                    - No, the prevailing attitude that men and boys aren't victims of rape is detrimental.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 06:37 PM   #91 
                    - I have no idea how you got the impression that anyone believes men and boys aren't being raped!!  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 06:43 PM   #94 
                    - Michael Jackson.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 06:51 PM   #97 
  - Bullshit. This isn't about the gender of the victims, but rather the connections of the abuser. nt  Lone_Star_Dem   Nov-10-11 10:25 AM   #7 
  - A woman with signed affadavits says that Cain tried to sexually assault her...  JaneQPublic   Nov-10-11 10:25 AM   #8 
  - Was she 10 at the time?  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 10:38 AM   #20 
  - I don't agree. However, if Sandusky had been female and done the same thing  Lance_Boyle   Nov-10-11 10:25 AM   #9 
  - Why do people say, "Lucky kids?"  redqueen   Nov-10-11 10:29 AM   #14 
  - She would be 22 years old now and would be trashed for not saying anything then  lunatica   Nov-10-11 10:26 AM   #10 
  - +1  redqueen   Nov-10-11 10:28 AM   #11 
  - sadly, true...  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 10:32 AM   #16 
  - The eyewitnesses are the ones who remained silent. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 10:44 AM   #25 
  - two words..... Catholic Clergy.  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 10:29 AM   #12 
  - They mostly were boys. You're making my argument.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 10:43 AM   #23 
     - No... Your argument was that girls impacted would result in more immediate disclosure...  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 10:57 AM   #29 
        - Your disgust is noted.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:02 AM   #31 
        - Yes... covering up pedophilia--regardless of gender is the issue.  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 11:05 AM   # 
        - Sexual abuse of boys is systematically underreported.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:11 AM   #36 
           - Under-reported by the boys... The issue here is the underreporting of the WITNESSES  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 11:15 AM   #40 
              - One in six boys are sexually abused by age 18.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:32 AM   #47 
                 - And how many female rapes go un-reported...  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 11:35 AM   #48 
                    - If caught in the Penn St. shower with a preteen girl, the reaction would have been the same?  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:38 AM   #50 
                       - You keep saying that.... as though the male victim was deemed somehow more acceptable...  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 11:45 AM   #52 
                       - What precisely leads you to believe that the reaction would have not been the same?  LanternWaste   Nov-10-11 12:16 PM   #58 
        - AND against young girls  Remember Me   Nov-10-11 05:05 PM   #73 
           - Yep. And that was covered as well.  Pithlet   Nov-10-11 05:18 PM   #74 
        - It's Also Most Likely Incorrect  NashVegas   Nov-10-11 11:07 AM   #35 
           - Link please.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:13 AM   #37 
  - OK, we discussed. The consensus appears to be that you are full of shit. But thanks for playing.  11 Bravo   Nov-10-11 10:29 AM   #13 
  - not a single person here thinks otherwise.  bettyellen   Nov-10-11 07:35 PM   #105 
  - If Sandusky was a minority, I suspect the same thing would have happened  LynneSin   Nov-10-11 10:33 AM   #17 
  - This is what happens  atreides1   Nov-10-11 10:35 AM   #18 
  - You could be right, but not for the reason you think.  MineralMan   Nov-10-11 10:42 AM   #21 
  - Yet it did happen at Penn State, people did witness it and they did nothing.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 10:49 AM   #26 
     - I don't think it would change a single thing  Aerows   Nov-10-11 11:06 AM   #34 
     - Dude, its sad, but it happens.  GirlinContempt   Nov-10-11 11:41 PM   #134 
  - Gender had nothing to with it  Aerows   Nov-10-11 10:42 AM   #22 
  - They covered it up because they didn't think it was a big deal.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 10:50 AM   #27 
     - They covered it up  Aerows   Nov-10-11 11:04 AM   #32 
     - which is why I again ask if the missing DA's finances were ever  hlthe2b   Nov-10-11 11:13 AM   #38 
        - Me too  Aerows   Nov-10-11 11:17 AM   #41 
     - Not true. They turned their heads 'cause of the MILLIONS of $$$ the football division  Honeycombe8   Nov-10-11 12:13 PM   #57 
        - Anyone who was privvy to those events could have called the cops.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 12:43 PM   #62 
           - Happens to girls too. Child sexual abuse is about power and control by sick minds.  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 06:23 PM   #84 
              - The FLDS example was good.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 06:42 PM   #93 
                 - Oh FFS!! You really don't think sex trafficking, prostitution, rampant foster home chilld sexual  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 06:44 PM   #95 
  - I'm not at all sure about that.  Chorophyll   Nov-10-11 10:50 AM   #28 
  - +1.  wickerwoman   Nov-11-11 12:59 AM   #138 
     - +100.  Chorophyll   Nov-11-11 03:07 PM   #154 
  - Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit  NashVegas   Nov-10-11 11:05 AM   #33 
  - The perpetrators in that case were arrested and charged.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 11:18 AM   #42 
  - Because Of Kids Who Were Passing Video Around All Over the Place  NashVegas   Nov-10-11 01:04 PM   #65 
  - Some people's reality is skewed...  redqueen   Nov-10-11 11:20 AM   #43 
  - .  Bunny   Nov-10-11 12:11 PM   #56 
  - +1 n/t  demmiblue   Nov-10-11 05:27 PM   #76 
  - Then there was the high school cheerleader  lolly   Nov-10-11 11:47 AM   #53 
  - The quoted "townspeople" were a bunch crackpots at a Nation of Islam gathering  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Nov-10-11 05:42 PM   #77 
  - The quoted "townspeople" were a bunch crackpots at a Nation of Islam gathering  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Nov-10-11 05:45 PM   #78 
  - Somehow I doubt it.  bengalherder   Nov-10-11 11:20 AM   #44 
  - Do you know anything at all about the arrest and conviction rate of rapists?  Missy Vixen   Nov-10-11 11:52 AM   #54 
  - My, those were some sobering statistics...  MrMickeysMom   Nov-10-11 05:51 PM   #80 
     - Oh, but that doesn't matter. :sarcasm:  Missy Vixen   Nov-10-11 06:24 PM   #85 
  - I see you already have made up your mind but you'd be wrong. Millions of girls have been raped  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 12:19 PM   #59 
  - "Discuss" That word doesn't mean what you think it means.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 12:36 PM   #61 
     - RIght. "Discuss" to you, means  Pithlet   Nov-10-11 12:56 PM   #64 
     - Americans don't care as much about boys.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 01:53 PM   #66 
        - Yeah, right  Missy Vixen   Nov-10-11 02:13 PM   #67 
        - Odd agenda, that's for sure.  October   Nov-10-11 02:23 PM   #69 
        - Well for starters, that's not what your link says.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 02:31 PM   #70 
           - Oooooh, I miswrote the stat in my response, therefore, it's not something you'll comment on  Missy Vixen   Nov-10-11 06:30 PM   #88 
        - Lumberjack-you used an adoption study--kind of dishonest  Helgaloo   Nov-10-11 08:48 PM   #114 
     - Why is is so important to you to differentiate and put girls and their  Remember Me   Nov-10-11 05:19 PM   #75 
     - You may suggest, as gently or condescendingly as you wish.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 06:28 PM   #87 
        - The TV people call it "fondling" or "molestation" or "abuse" because of their standards and  Missy Vixen   Nov-10-11 06:37 PM   #90 
     - You have provided absolutely zero proof that the sexual molestation of boys is taken any less  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 06:27 PM   #86 
     - if you don;t realize that you're just making shit up, maybe it;s time to get help.  bettyellen   Nov-10-11 07:42 PM   #107 
  - No....  MrMickeysMom   Nov-10-11 05:49 PM   #79 
  - so not true. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Nov-10-11 05:53 PM   #81 
  - refuckingdiculous assumption.  PeaceNikki   Nov-10-11 06:22 PM   #83 
  - WTF?  etherealtruth   Nov-10-11 06:31 PM   #89 
  - Are the boy scouts, the catholic church, boys town and countless group homes  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 06:40 PM   #92 
     - Pretty much  etherealtruth   Nov-10-11 06:49 PM   #96 
     - You know the Boys Toiwn sexual abuse was happening to girls too right? The FLDS  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 06:51 PM   #98 
        - It's very unfortunate that horrific acts ...  etherealtruth   Nov-10-11 06:56 PM   #100 
  - Why? Because the MEN who witnessed it didn't care that a boy was raped?  DevonRex   Nov-10-11 06:52 PM   #99 
  - I'm not forgetting anything.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 06:56 PM   #101 
     - So it's not the gender of the victim that mattered. It might be the gender  DevonRex   Nov-10-11 07:42 PM   #108 
     - Men and women react similarly to the victimization of women.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 09:29 PM   #118 
        - Stats? Link? Something, anything credible? nt  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 10:34 PM   # 
     - Lumberjack-where do you get this stuff?  Helgaloo   Nov-10-11 08:20 PM   #109 
     - Welcome to DU Helgaloo! I hope you stay and join us!  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 09:19 PM   #117 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-10-11 09:32 PM   #119 
        - A DUer posted about something horrible that happened to her  Pithlet   Nov-10-11 09:42 PM   #122 
        - She was grabbed inappropriately so bystanders put her assailant in the hospital.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-10-11 09:51 PM   #123 
           - How do you compare and contrast that?  Pithlet   Nov-10-11 09:53 PM   #124 
              - Of course. A 10 year old is entirely defenseless. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-11-11 11:04 AM   #142 
                 - I notice you didn't address the cases where bystanders didn't defend women.  Pithlet   Nov-11-11 04:08 PM   #158 
        - How about women who are gang raped at college parties.  Pithlet   Nov-10-11 10:20 PM   #125 
     - Thousands of years of human experience suggest otherwise. Female rape victims are rarely believed.  yardwork   Nov-11-11 09:36 AM   #141 
        - Credibility isn't an issue here. The eyewitnesses helped cover it up.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-11-11 11:23 AM   #143 
  - I agree 100%.  aaaaaa5a   Nov-10-11 06:57 PM   #102 
  - baloney  TorchTheWitch   Nov-10-11 07:11 PM   #103 
  - I agree.  Faithful One   Nov-10-11 07:21 PM   #104 
  - oh please if the 10 year old girl looked 14, a lot of guys would totally look the other way.  bettyellen   Nov-10-11 08:33 PM   #111 
     - Agree Read my post #109  Helgaloo   Nov-10-11 08:37 PM   #112 
        - loved your post. Very telling only a woman followed through to police. Sad.  bettyellen   Nov-10-11 08:41 PM   #113 
           - Thanks, and why are we even discussing this?  Helgaloo   Nov-10-11 08:53 PM   #115 
           - That was my point, too. All the MEN who knew looked the other way.  DevonRex   Nov-10-11 08:57 PM   #116 
  - Spare Me -  we can do it   Nov-10-11 09:41 PM   #121 
  - Why on earth do you hate women and girls so much?  LeftyMom   Nov-10-11 10:23 PM   #126 
  - Weak. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-11-11 11:35 AM   #148 
  - You're an idiot.  flvegan   Nov-10-11 10:34 PM   #127 
  - Lol!! And a hug to you. I've been tempted to alert on this thread as flame bait all day  riderinthestorm   Nov-10-11 10:36 PM   #128 
  - I look forward to sharing  flvegan   Nov-10-11 10:45 PM   #132 
     - If I can be there as well, I'll bring the beer  Missy Vixen   Nov-11-11 12:48 AM   #136 
        - Cheers to good friends!!!!!  flvegan   Nov-11-11 12:51 AM   #137 
  - Weak.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-11-11 11:31 AM   #146 
  - That's certainly worth considering. When dad finds out his little  jtuck004   Nov-10-11 10:39 PM   #129 
  - Absolutely blithering idiocy.  Starry Messenger   Nov-10-11 10:39 PM   #130 
  - No, an 11 yr old girl was gang raped and the town blamed her. She dressed slutty. I doubt in this  Pisces   Nov-10-11 10:40 PM   #131 
  - When did The Nation of Islam become the defacto spokesman for any community?  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Nov-11-11 01:58 AM   #139 
     - The article in the NY Times ( not the nation of Islam) questioned her attire and loose nature.  Pisces   Nov-11-11 09:30 AM   #140 
        - the "community at large" was a bunch of nutjobs interviewed at a Nation of Islam event  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Nov-11-11 10:58 PM   #159 
  - If it had been girls I give odds that he would still be up to it.  Exultant Democracy   Nov-11-11 12:19 AM   #135 
  - Yes...totally correct.  Rex   Nov-11-11 11:24 AM   #144 
  - I say if it has been a female child it would been LESS LIKELY to have been reported. nt  Lex   Nov-11-11 11:26 AM   #145 
  - Then you'd be wrong.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-11-11 11:35 AM   #147 
     - Nope. The rape of female children happens far more often  Lex   Nov-11-11 11:42 AM   #149 
        - by nope, you mean yup.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-11-11 02:41 PM   #152 
  - not sure about that, but what I am sure of is that girl  Whisp   Nov-11-11 11:45 AM   #150 
  - +1  redqueen   Nov-11-11 02:46 PM   #153 
  - Only if it were McQueary's daughter--OR son. THAT would have made a difference.  spooky3   Nov-11-11 11:51 AM   #151 
  - I'm not sure you're wrong.  EFerrari   Nov-11-11 03:09 PM   #155 
  - I was almost my adult size when I was eleven -- plenty of girls look older than their age.  pnwmom   Nov-11-11 03:12 PM   #156 
  - nope if he'd been caught raping a girl we never would have heard word one about it  pitohui   Nov-11-11 03:16 PM   #157 

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