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Thu Nov-10-11 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
| 12. Spoken like a true Senator... |
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That can see every side of a hexagon.
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| -Why can't Obama give a straight answer to the "Are corporations people" question? |
Renew Deal |
Nov-10-11 09:24 AM |
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Corporations are big donors and like any politician Obama |
Autumn |
Nov-10-11 09:30 AM |
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+1000000! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-10-11 09:34 AM |
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x2 |
truebrit71 |
Nov-10-11 09:48 AM |
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Nov-10-11 10:14 AM |
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Obama does not accept corporate donations. Neither does the DNC. nt |
TheWraith |
Nov-10-11 10:24 AM |
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He doesn't accept them because they have been illegal for 100 years now. |
former9thward |
Nov-10-11 10:41 AM |
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Well, |
ProSense |
Nov-10-11 10:49 AM |
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Are you seriously saying Obama does not accept money from top executives? |
former9thward |
Nov-10-11 11:04 AM |
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A |
ProSense |
Nov-10-11 11:33 AM |
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But he knows and respects what they could do to him in 2012. |
Orsino |
Nov-10-11 11:16 AM |
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Nov-10-11 09:32 AM |
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It depends on your definition of 'is' |
Ichingcarpenter |
Nov-10-11 09:36 AM |
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His answer would not sit well with the base. |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-10-11 09:34 AM |
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because the democratic party, is just as loving of corporations |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Nov-10-11 09:37 AM |
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Obama is evil |
Swede |
Nov-10-11 09:37 AM |
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Lots of this going on, eh?...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-10-11 09:51 AM |
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I can't wait until he's our nominee in the GE, and all this bullshit gets TSed. |
11 Bravo |
Nov-10-11 10:27 AM |
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a post like this won't get TS'd.. |
frylock |
Nov-10-11 11:16 AM |
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Sorry, Sparky, but my day can NEVER be ruined by an anonymous schmuck on an internet message board. |
11 Bravo |
Nov-10-11 03:44 PM |
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well good for you, sport! |
frylock |
Nov-10-11 06:19 PM |
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That just sucks. |
NYC_SKP |
Nov-10-11 09:38 AM |
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Nov-10-11 09:39 AM |
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His answer tells you all you need to know |
Coyote_Bandit |
Nov-10-11 09:40 AM |
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Here's the transcript |
ProSense |
Nov-10-11 09:41 AM |
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Spoken like a true Senator... |
kentuck |
Nov-10-11 09:44 AM |
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Well, |
ProSense |
Nov-10-11 09:46 AM |
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Yep. |
kentuck |
Nov-10-11 09:48 AM |
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Nov-10-11 10:01 AM |
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Spoken like a tried and true politician. |
sad sally |
Nov-10-11 12:58 PM |
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Thanks |
Renew Deal |
Nov-10-11 10:01 AM |
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Obama's response is tripe. n/t |
Admiral Loinpresser |
Nov-11-11 01:55 AM |
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His masters have not told him what to say. |
LiberalArkie |
Nov-10-11 09:45 AM |
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Hand meets glove. Welcome to the land of Trickle Down Politics. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-10-11 09:45 AM |
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What part of the President's answer had ANYTHING to do with supporting trickle down? |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 10:13 AM |
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What part of the President's answer had ANYTHING to do with the question? |
Fumesucker |
Nov-10-11 10:16 AM |
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Every single part of it. |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 10:36 AM |
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Oh bullshit, it was a yes or no question.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-10-11 10:55 AM |
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Its a stupid question in which a yes or no the answer has no value. |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 11:54 AM |
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It would only have taken a few more words to answer the question directly.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-10-11 12:05 PM |
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If you want the valid, technical answer, then no, of course not. |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 03:42 PM |
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In other words he was trying to avoid attacks from the right wing.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-10-11 03:48 PM |
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More like avoiding pissing off everyone else that doesn't see things the way you do. |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 04:19 PM |
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But it's OK for him to piss me off is what you're saying.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-10-11 04:42 PM |
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The President is under the corporations just like the Congress and Courts. |
mmonk |
Nov-10-11 09:47 AM |
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No one criticized the Citizens United decision more than Obama |
frazzled |
Nov-10-11 09:51 AM |
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Part of that speech is in my signature |
Renew Deal |
Nov-10-11 10:03 AM |
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Citizens United did not give corporations and unions "personhood". |
former9thward |
Nov-10-11 10:45 AM |
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Yes, personhood of corporations was absolutely invoked in Citizen's United-- |
frazzled |
Nov-10-11 12:52 PM |
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Yes that was the basis of the dissent. |
former9thward |
Nov-10-11 02:04 PM |
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Corporate personhood did not begin with Citizens United and would be a mountain of an issue without |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-10-11 07:36 PM |
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Recced to "0" |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-10-11 09:52 AM |
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Because he doesn't want to anger his campaign donors nor the Democratic base. |
closeupready |
Nov-10-11 09:55 AM |
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He's sponsored by the corporate empire! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Nov-10-11 10:04 AM |
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that says a lot |
G_j |
Nov-10-11 10:06 AM |
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He said that corporations shouldn't be getting special tax breaks and special exemptions and their.. |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 10:15 AM |
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you should say corporations are evil |
lame54 |
Nov-10-11 10:07 AM |
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they're damn good people when they funnel $$$$$$$$$$$ to your political campaign |
datasuspect |
Nov-10-11 10:08 AM |
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Nov-10-11 10:09 AM |
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There was absolutely nothing wrong with his answer and it lasted less than a minute. |
phleshdef |
Nov-10-11 10:11 AM |
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Read this and maybe you will understand it better? |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-10-11 10:21 AM |
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Corporations pay income tax as if they are a person.... |
Sheepshank |
Nov-10-11 10:25 AM |
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That's some real, real bad shit right there. |
Zorra |
Nov-10-11 10:40 AM |
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But they are... |
WCGreen |
Nov-10-11 11:33 AM |
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Owning slaves was legal at one time... |
Zorra |
Nov-10-11 12:07 PM |
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Really, that is where you go with this.... |
WCGreen |
Nov-10-11 01:32 PM |
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IMO.....a one word answer would have been quite powerful... |
Magoo48 |
Nov-10-11 10:49 AM |
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K&R n/t |
DeSwiss |
Nov-10-11 10:53 AM |
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He's a law professor. The answer is "Sometimes, yes. In some ways..." |
Davis_X_Machina |
Nov-10-11 11:05 AM |
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Ah. Now I get it. Nt |
DevonRex |
Nov-10-11 11:19 AM |
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Because legally speaking, corporations are people... |
WCGreen |
Nov-10-11 11:23 AM |
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People, by definition, are mortal. nt |
Romulox |
Nov-10-11 11:35 AM |
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Well no shit... |
WCGreen |
Nov-10-11 11:38 AM |
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Corporations, not being mortal, would seem therefore to enjoy MORE rights than natural people under |
Romulox |
Nov-10-11 11:55 AM |
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It's not my logic... |
WCGreen |
Nov-10-11 01:13 PM |
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Then just cite precedent. Your attempt to *explain* this logic invites critique. |
Romulox |
Nov-10-11 06:30 PM |
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There is no legal limit to a human lifespan. |
surrealAmerican |
Nov-10-11 05:29 PM |
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That's gibberish. Logic is the underpinning of all law. If a law is illogical, it's unjust. nt |
Romulox |
Nov-10-11 06:28 PM |
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+1 |
treestar |
Nov-10-11 12:03 PM |
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What a surprise to find you so enthusiastic a supporter of corporate personhood! nt |
Romulox |
Nov-10-11 06:32 PM |
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Is that supposed to be a slam? |
treestar |
Nov-10-11 08:02 PM |
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"Limited liability" hasn't got a THING to do with "corporate personhood". What a surprise to find |
Romulox |
Nov-11-11 05:59 PM |
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Corporations are legal entities |
treestar |
Nov-10-11 12:02 PM |
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Many on the left don't (can't?) do reason and logic...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-10-11 12:06 PM |
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Nov-10-11 12:57 PM |
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many on the left |
unionworks |
Nov-10-11 01:37 PM |
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How are you oppressed by the existence of the corporate form |
treestar |
Nov-10-11 08:06 PM |
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Maybe. But no one on the right (can?) do reason or logic. |
Zorra |
Nov-10-11 01:44 PM |
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Yes. Many of us on the left do...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-10-11 04:00 PM |
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While there's a lot of overly simplistic "corporations = evil" thinking... |
Silent3 |
Nov-10-11 01:40 PM |
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Obama isn't doing much but explaining |
treestar |
Nov-10-11 08:05 PM |
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Is this OP question supposed to be rhetorical? I think the answer is self evident. |
Huey P. Long |
Nov-10-11 01:27 PM |
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means of painting those with opposite opinions... |
LanternWaste |
Nov-10-11 01:30 PM |
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REALITY CHECK |
unionworks |
Nov-10-11 01:32 PM |
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Obama said some noise about the Citizens United ruling, |
blkmusclmachine |
Nov-10-11 06:36 PM |
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in your honor |
unionworks |
Nov-10-11 07:16 PM |
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"Don't punish me |
unionworks |
Nov-10-11 07:24 PM |
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