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Sat Nov-12-11 03:01 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 96. "port of sanity in a storm of batshit crazy" |
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Ain't that the damn truth!
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| -I Never Did Understand Why The "Dean Scream" TooK Dean Out Of Contention...... |
global1 |
Nov-10-11 05:20 AM |
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In the scheme of things it seems ridiculous. |
dkf |
Nov-10-11 05:22 AM |
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It had to do with an isolating microphone and incessant pounding by |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 05:23 AM |
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And The Current Repug Field Looks Presidential?....... |
global1 |
Nov-10-11 05:38 AM |
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Who said anything about the current field of Republicans? Not me? |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 05:43 AM |
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Whoa Partner - You Took My Comment To Be About You And I ..... |
global1 |
Nov-10-11 06:14 AM |
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OK--I'm fine. It's sometimes difficult to guage intent with just the written word! nt |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 11:41 AM |
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Right. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-10-11 06:04 AM |
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They routinely withhold all kinds of important information about Republican candidates |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-11-11 09:59 AM |
#94 |
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If we actually had a "liberal media" |
Enthusiast |
Nov-12-11 02:55 AM |
#95 |
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Republicans are lovable bafoons... |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Nov-12-11 03:05 AM |
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Yeah, talk about "out of context". |
Liberal In Texas |
Nov-10-11 05:39 AM |
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He was railroaded. He was making too damn much sense! |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 05:45 AM |
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the media had to get him on something |
newspeak |
Nov-10-11 10:22 AM |
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+1 |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-10-11 10:36 AM |
#45 |
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I have a theory about how/why Dean got the hook. |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 11:52 AM |
#55 |
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Have to disagree |
karynnj |
Nov-10-11 12:43 PM |
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Kerry took things to heart. Even when Dean griped, he was |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 12:58 PM |
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I agree with your description of the differences in their personalitties or |
karynnj |
Nov-10-11 02:12 PM |
#73 |
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You're right--it was an embarrassment of riches on our side. |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 05:04 PM |
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You would rather they cover Dean's campaign flop and Kerry's unexpected win |
karynnj |
Nov-10-11 12:37 PM |
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They will tell you if your choice is within bounds. |
WingDinger |
Nov-10-11 09:28 PM |
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"They" being Wolf Blitzer on CNN |
PADemD |
Nov-10-11 07:13 AM |
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About the only person I saw cry "Horse shit!" was, ironically, Diane Sawyer. |
MADem |
Nov-10-11 11:59 AM |
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And the millionaire jackels saw their big paychecks declining if Dean |
tsuki |
Nov-11-11 09:30 AM |
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because enough people backed away when the media pundits labelled him "uncool" |
eShirl |
Nov-10-11 05:24 AM |
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He's a democrat...and a progressive democrat at that. Neither party wanted him as the nominee |
mdavies013 |
Nov-10-11 05:24 AM |
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I think it was because it was interpreted as his becoming unhinged... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-10-11 05:25 AM |
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I just watched it again. |
Eddie Haskell |
Nov-10-11 06:03 AM |
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ABSOLUTELY! |
Cosmocat |
Nov-10-11 12:36 PM |
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It's still painful for me to watch because of what came afterwards. |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-10-11 02:52 PM |
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He wasn't the establishment's choice |
KeepItReal |
Nov-10-11 05:26 AM |
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Correct |
tavalon |
Nov-10-11 06:08 AM |
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Exactly! nt |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-10-11 10:49 AM |
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There were some other issues leading up to that. |
DCBob |
Nov-10-11 05:28 AM |
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He didn't win Iowa because Kerry had a better ground operation |
eridani |
Nov-10-11 05:32 AM |
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I vaguely remember something about a negative comment Dean made about the Iowa primary.. |
DCBob |
Nov-10-11 05:34 AM |
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Oh, and vote swapping by Gephardt, Edwards and Kucinich. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Nov-10-11 08:37 AM |
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All of whom were bringing up the rear. |
eridani |
Nov-10-11 09:10 PM |
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Silly excuse - if that were the case, why didn't Hillary win Iowa rather than coming in third? |
karynnj |
Nov-10-11 12:56 PM |
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He had people specifically soliciting signed pledges |
eridani |
Nov-10-11 09:09 PM |
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You know that signed pledges did NOT insure that the person |
karynnj |
Nov-11-11 08:30 AM |
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I was a Dean supporter at the time |
Chemisse |
Nov-10-11 05:33 AM |
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Me too. same reaction. |
DCBob |
Nov-10-11 05:38 AM |
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It sure does seem absurd now. Things certainly have changed. n/t |
Chemisse |
Nov-10-11 11:15 AM |
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Nothing weird about it but your reaction. |
Eddie Haskell |
Nov-10-11 05:54 AM |
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I fail to see how my reaction was 'weird'. |
Chemisse |
Nov-10-11 11:13 AM |
#49 |
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Have you heard the recording of the event with Dean's voice NOT isolated? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-10-11 12:18 PM |
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Hmm, possibly not. I didn't realize there was one that differed from |
Chemisse |
Nov-10-11 06:53 PM |
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Here: |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-10-11 10:19 PM |
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omfg - I could barely even hear the Scream |
Chemisse |
Nov-11-11 06:40 AM |
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Precisely. Why did that one get played over and over... |
JHB |
Nov-11-11 07:05 AM |
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I felt the same way when I first heard it un-filtered. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-11-11 09:52 AM |
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People in the room at the time disagree |
Rambis |
Nov-10-11 01:10 PM |
#72 |
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"port of sanity in a storm of batshit crazy" |
Enthusiast |
Nov-12-11 03:01 AM |
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Because "Democrats" were looking for any reason..... |
vi5 |
Nov-10-11 05:33 AM |
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The war hero thing definitely helped Kerry. |
DCBob |
Nov-10-11 05:36 AM |
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Kerry was more liberal than Dean |
karynnj |
Nov-10-11 03:37 PM |
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The Democratic establishment with the help of the MSM worked to derail his campaign. It was perhaps |
still_one |
Nov-10-11 05:59 AM |
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The context has been forgotten |
radiclib |
Nov-10-11 06:00 AM |
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Because the media likes to make and break candidates |
quaker bill |
Nov-10-11 06:02 AM |
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He began to speak out against the Media so the Media ended his run. |
Tesha |
Nov-10-11 06:04 AM |
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The powers that be didn't want him |
tavalon |
Nov-10-11 06:05 AM |
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K&R...........Let's examine this closely. |
Enthusiast |
Nov-10-11 06:06 AM |
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It actually didn't... |
brooklynite |
Nov-10-11 06:07 AM |
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I think it was a combination of that and some of the other points in this thread... |
JHB |
Nov-10-11 07:05 AM |
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you are correct |
onenote |
Nov-10-11 07:22 AM |
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I think that the NH team expected him to come into NH in first place |
XemaSab |
Nov-10-11 12:14 PM |
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i think it was a media campaign |
barbtries |
Nov-10-11 06:48 AM |
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Would love to. |
Le Taz Hot |
Nov-10-11 06:58 AM |
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I agree. He was destroyed by his own party. |
Laelth |
Nov-10-11 11:20 AM |
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Because the corporate media said it did. |
McCamy Taylor |
Nov-10-11 07:05 AM |
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His reaction was out of context with what happened that night and he |
seaglass |
Nov-10-11 07:06 AM |
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Have you heard the recording of the event with Dean's voice NOT isolated? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-10-11 12:20 PM |
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I saw it live when they cut in on Edwards. It was the tone of his voice not the volume. n/t |
seaglass |
Nov-10-11 06:28 PM |
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Check this out. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Nov-10-11 10:26 PM |
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I listened to it. It doesn't change what I heard that night. "The scream" had nothing to do with |
seaglass |
Nov-12-11 05:42 AM |
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or the Reverend Wright issue and Obama. |
Whisp |
Nov-10-11 07:35 AM |
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He was made to seem unbalanced, operative word "made." |
WinkyDink |
Nov-10-11 08:38 AM |
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the MEDIA destroyed him. |
spanone |
Nov-10-11 08:40 AM |
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The media made it bigger than it should have been. The media always manipulates the news. |
WI_DEM |
Nov-10-11 08:42 AM |
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Ever since the Nixon/JFK debate when Nixon appeared unshaven |
Nye Bevan |
Nov-10-11 08:43 AM |
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It did not take him out of contention |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Nov-10-11 09:29 AM |
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My biggest question about Dean is why the party scrapped his 50 state plan |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-10-11 10:38 AM |
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I can't give you an answer |
XemaSab |
Nov-10-11 12:27 PM |
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Because he raised his voice, by God |
aint_no_life_nowhere |
Nov-10-11 10:44 AM |
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Normally it wouldn't have, but the MSM told folks it should... |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-10-11 11:17 AM |
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I was a Deaniac at the time and it was an obvious M$M hit job. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-10-11 11:47 AM |
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He is Unsuitable to be a Puppet. |
Macoy |
Nov-10-11 12:23 PM |
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It wasn't a "scream" - it was a "rebel yell"... |
kentuck |
Nov-10-11 12:26 PM |
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It has never made any sense to me - not then, and not now. |
iris27 |
Nov-10-11 12:31 PM |
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He didn't get enough votes - and Kerry won 14 out of the 16 states that decided before Dean quit |
karynnj |
Nov-10-11 12:34 PM |
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SO that the country could be run by a puppet. |
Rex |
Nov-10-11 12:39 PM |
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He was taken out because he wasn't a Veteran. Instead, we got stuck with |
in_cog_ni_to |
Nov-10-11 12:42 PM |
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Political assassination by corporate media, plain and simple. |
JackRiddler |
Nov-10-11 02:37 PM |
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Yep. |
kentuck |
Nov-10-11 02:53 PM |
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Didn't Dean come in 3rd in IA? |
Mz Pip |
Nov-10-11 05:07 PM |
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The MSM, combined with hatred from the left and right |
ecstatic |
Nov-10-11 05:08 PM |
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He Already Lost IA At That Time And He Certainly Wasn't Beating Kerry In NH |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Nov-11-11 09:53 AM |
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Dean Said Israel Needed to be treated like other contries |
dballance |
Nov-12-11 03:42 AM |
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It didn't , the Scream happened after he lost Iowa, not only to Kerry, but Edwards came in 2nd |
JI7 |
Nov-12-11 03:45 AM |
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"why Dean was eliminated?"--he was anti-Iraq War. eom |
TransitJohn |
Nov-12-11 04:49 AM |
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The order was given by TPTB and he was deleted. |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-12-11 07:40 AM |
#102 |
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People like my mom |
Lady President |
Nov-12-11 07:46 AM |
#103 |
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