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88. US Postal Service: "temporary" - $11 hour, 12 hour shifts, no bennies.
The USPS is hiring for what they term "casual" employment, i.e., temporary over the holidays. Requirement (for warehouse work, including lifting up to 70 pounds) is for 12 hour days, 6 or 7 days per week. Shifts are usually overnight - like 4 p.m. to 4 a.m.

Standing, carrying, lifting, pushing for 12 hours at a stretch, every day? Brutal.
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  -In 1989, I made $15.00/hour Horse with no Name  Nov-06-11 02:52 PM   #0 
  - It was a lot better when everyone's wages were patterned after union workers  NNN0LHI   Nov-06-11 03:00 PM   #1 
  - I was raising two kids and going to school  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 03:06 PM   #6 
  - IT IS THE DAMN TEMPORARY HELP SERVICES  HowHasItComeToThis   Nov-06-11 11:11 PM   #70 
     - So very true  Johnny Noshoes   Nov-07-11 09:00 AM   #113 
        - In one interview I had  EC   Nov-07-11 10:36 AM   #127 
  - Exactly!!! I was never in a union, but I was ALWAYS grateful for what  RKP5637   Nov-06-11 03:07 PM   #8 
  - My late father never got out of grade school and understood this  NNN0LHI   Nov-06-11 04:07 PM   #25 
  - There are plenty of people in my red-as-a-baboon's-arse state who would benefit from unions  raccoon   Nov-07-11 08:24 AM   #108 
     - You know, it's the weirdest psychological twist ever, people convinced that  RKP5637   Nov-07-11 10:34 AM   #124 
  - Yes, now people seem proud that we are aiming for the least comon denominator  Cal Carpenter   Nov-06-11 03:59 PM   #23 
  - Agreed & Well Said  Sherman A1   Nov-07-11 02:34 AM   #85 
  - Which is precisely why they targeted unions...  trotsky   Nov-07-11 06:35 AM   #103 
  - Any time I see Koch BS about how certain professions are overpaid, it makes my blood boil.  Initech   Nov-06-11 03:00 PM   #2 
  - k&r. that's backbreaking work, literally.  Laluchacontinua   Nov-06-11 03:04 PM   #3 
  - Being a nurses aide sucks. The only way I'd do it would be if  MineralMan   Nov-06-11 03:04 PM   #4 
  - I kind of did it that way in the Army.  Rozlee   Nov-06-11 08:45 PM   #45 
  - do I have to deal with body fluids ?  Skittles   Nov-06-11 09:02 PM   #50 
     - Yes. At least nowadays, you get to wear gloves.  Bette Noir   Nov-06-11 11:45 PM   #73 
        - y'all are angels  Skittles   Nov-07-11 12:05 AM   #77 
  - I have friends that used to make over $100k/yr. Their job now goes for about $40k/yr to  RKP5637   Nov-06-11 03:05 PM   #5 
  - Yep. As far as I can tell  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 03:12 PM   #9 
  - THis bears repeating,  raccoon   Nov-07-11 08:25 AM   #109 
     - Yep, it's the domino theory all over the place. It's hard to keep standing when  RKP5637   Nov-07-11 10:38 AM   #128 
        - It's the result of a culture that has championed the individual over community at all cost.  CrispyQ   Nov-07-11 05:00 PM   #156 
           - The last statement is beautiful! And the one about the 30 past years is sooo true! We have  RKP5637   Nov-07-11 05:28 PM   #157 
  - They started the class warfare a long long time ago.  RegieRocker   Nov-06-11 03:07 PM   #7 
  - +100  FreakinDJ   Nov-06-11 03:21 PM   #12 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Nov-06-11 03:16 PM   #10 
  - union grocery cashier pay in the 70's in calif. 14-18$ and hour. nt  seabeyond   Nov-06-11 03:20 PM   #11 
  - I put myself through college with a part-time union cashier job.  CrispyQ   Nov-07-11 05:48 PM   #158 
     - i ahd forgotten about this. but it really says something looking how wage has DECREASED.  seabeyond   Nov-08-11 02:12 PM   #172 
  - I guess this proves Milton Freedman's theory WRONG  FreakinDJ   Nov-06-11 03:24 PM   #13 
  - Isn't the point of capitalism to make money?  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 03:30 PM   #14 
  - Several forms of Capitalism  FreakinDJ   Nov-06-11 03:43 PM   #17 
  - I wasn't tagging anyone Socialist? And I didn't mention OWS?  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 03:47 PM   # 
  - After the Manufacturing Capitalistic Society in the 1950s  FreakinDJ   Nov-06-11 04:49 PM   #30 
     - Ah, it was the manufacturing capitalistic society that did it?  JoeyT   Nov-06-11 05:01 PM   #34 
     - The 1950s economic boom wouldn't have been possible except for 1) the New Deal and 2) labor unions.  Selatius   Nov-07-11 01:32 AM   #83 
     - Excellent post, Selatius! PLUS ONE!  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:34 AM   #91 
     - Yeah. This post...+10000. n/t  Horse with no Name   Nov-07-11 07:21 AM   #105 
     - It goes in cycles.  JoeyT   Nov-07-11 09:43 AM   #117 
     - PLUS ONE!  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:27 AM   #89 
     - Most of us would like to see  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:31 AM   #90 
     - yeah, capitalism has been so great in China - poisoned food, water, air....  bread_and_roses   Nov-07-11 06:31 AM   #102 
  - I will proudly say that I am a socialist.  blackspade   Nov-06-11 11:46 PM   #74 
  - Only short-sighted capitalists work the way you describe  jeff47   Nov-06-11 08:42 PM   #44 
  - Capitalism means  aggiesal   Nov-06-11 09:14 PM   #54 
     - Amen to that  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 09:36 PM   #59 
     - Amen. That's how it works. nt  raccoon   Nov-07-11 08:27 AM   #110 
  - He had a whole series on PBS in the 1980s (Reagan era, of course!) called  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-06-11 04:52 PM   #32 
  - Change that to "Free to Collapse"  FreakinDJ   Nov-06-11 05:01 PM   #35 
  - Laissez-faire only applies to things that hinder them from making money  Thav   Nov-07-11 08:50 AM   #112 
  - We had to watch that slop in high school econ. Our teacher thought he was a genius  AllyCat   Nov-06-11 09:29 PM   #56 
  - Friedman was not wrong.  RaleighNCDUer   Nov-07-11 12:21 AM   #78 
  - PLUS ONE! Very good post! N/T  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:39 AM   #93 
  - I think uncle Milt was the most dangerous man of the last century.  MedicalAdmin   Nov-07-11 07:29 AM   #106 
  - Scratch Obama and you find uncle Milton  pscot   Nov-07-11 11:37 AM   #139 
  - You know what you called insisting on failed free market systems?  alp227   Nov-07-11 11:57 AM   #147 
  - i was making anywhere from 10-12 (without over time) in the early 70`s with...  madrchsod   Nov-06-11 03:33 PM   #15 
  - I had a friend that worked for Bethlehem Pennsylvania Shipyard in the early 80's  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 03:41 PM   #16 
  - If they would actually pass balanced trade deals instead of this bullshit free trade crap ...  Selatius   Nov-07-11 01:38 AM   #84 
  - After 3 years and 3 layoffs later I make 37% less now. For the same job.  Lochloosa   Nov-06-11 03:47 PM   #18 
  - I was talking to someone about this the other day.  Arctic Dave   Nov-06-11 03:50 PM   #19 
  - The REAL disparity isn't just the wages  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 03:54 PM   #21 
  - I remember when kids could work a summer job and save enough  Sal Minella   Nov-06-11 04:49 PM   # 
     - yep  oldhippydude   Nov-07-11 05:44 AM   #99 
        - And meanwhile, the Right Wing Financial Gurus are still telling kids  Sal Minella   Nov-07-11 01:01 PM   #152 
           - The REAL benefit of sending kids to college for 4 years  Horse with no Name   Nov-07-11 02:28 PM   #153 
           - I know of more than a few...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-07-11 07:27 PM   #167 
           - "We have so many people with top-notch educations unable to find halfway decent jobs now."  CrispyQ   Nov-07-11 06:27 PM   #161 
  - This is THE issue--not that wages are stagnant...wages have declined  live love laugh   Nov-06-11 03:50 PM   #20 
  - In his book, "Take this Job & Ship It", former senator Byron Dorgan (ND-D) stated that,  CrispyQ   Nov-07-11 06:30 PM   #162 
  - It's what immigration is doing to your wages.  Yo_Mama   Nov-06-11 03:55 PM   #22 
  - I 100% disagree. n/t  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 04:01 PM   #24 
  - Not true--the wage declines are across the board & not just in immigrant related occupations, nt  live love laugh   Nov-06-11 04:22 PM   #26 
  - 'fraid not.  jeff47   Nov-06-11 08:47 PM   #47 
  - No. Canada has 4 times higher rate of immigration. It is good for their economy. n/t  pampango   Nov-06-11 08:53 PM   #48 
  - Canada allows virtually ZERO unskilled immigrants each year. We allow a million or more. nt  Romulox   Nov-07-11 10:48 AM   #132 
     - Partly true. Canada's immigration is about 70/30 skilled/unskilled.  pampango   Nov-07-11 11:45 AM   #142 
        - OK. So the percentage of unskilled immigrants in Canandian society is tiny compared to the US.  Romulox   Nov-07-11 11:48 AM   #143 
           - No. Unskilled immigrants are a higher percentage of Canadian society than in the US.  pampango   Nov-07-11 12:51 PM   #151 
              - Absolute nonsense, and you've provided no numbers to substantiate any of this.  Romulox   Nov-07-11 04:05 PM   #155 
  - I disagree.  Rozlee   Nov-06-11 09:03 PM   #51 
  - Agreed. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-06-11 09:56 PM   #64 
  - Yet still untrue.  Occulus   Nov-07-11 09:40 AM   #116 
     - In 2006, Illegal immigration depressed wages $1.4 billion in Arizona alone.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-07-11 09:50 AM   #118 
        - Third choice: Illegal immigration isn't SOLELY responsible for decades of depressed wages.  Occulus   Nov-07-11 10:35 AM   #125 
        - That claim only works if we HAVE cheap produce.  RaleighNCDUer   Nov-07-11 11:51 AM   #144 
  - You have cause and effect confused.  Bette Noir   Nov-06-11 11:53 PM   #75 
  - Oh bullshit. America has ALWAYS had immigrants, THEY BUILT THE ECONOMY!  Lorien   Nov-07-11 10:35 AM   #126 
  - We have OSHA, FSLA, Child Labor laws in the country for a REASON. It's not "progressive"  Romulox   Nov-07-11 10:48 AM   #131 
  - I disagree. It is not immigrant labor that is the problem - it is NON-UNIONIZED  RaleighNCDUer   Nov-07-11 11:39 AM   #140 
  - I went back to work in a Pharmacy after illness and part retirement..  nenagh   Nov-06-11 04:25 PM   #27 
  - years ago I worked as a lab supervisor  Tumbulu   Nov-06-11 10:47 PM   #67 
  - Tumbulu, you and nenagh have restored my faith in humanity.  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:54 AM   #95 
  - Unbelievable.  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:50 AM   #94 
  - Gas was $1.19 a gallon -- the cost of everything has doubled & tripled while wages decline  K8-EEE   Nov-06-11 04:31 PM   #28 
  - Just an aside  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 04:36 PM   #29 
  - Some of my translation clients (large agencies) tried to get me to work  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-06-11 04:49 PM   #31 
  - I have a friend who lives in the Pittsburgh PA  SheilaT   Nov-06-11 05:07 PM   #36 
  - $10 an hour is NOTHING  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-06-11 06:23 PM   #38 
  - How much do you usually charge?  Capitalocracy   Nov-06-11 08:46 PM   #46 
     - What if the ATA comes after me?  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-06-11 09:34 PM   #57 
  - Me & hubs make what we made n 1992.  elehhhhna   Nov-06-11 04:55 PM   #33 
  - Kick, not just nursing, this has happened to many occupations.  sarcasmo   Nov-06-11 06:12 PM   #37 
  - Taking care of  femrap   Nov-06-11 06:59 PM   #39 
  - "I am so fucking angry." Me too!  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 05:01 AM   #96 
     - I might feel a bit better  femrap   Nov-07-11 11:52 AM   #145 
        - That will help.  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 02:55 PM   #154 
           - I'm going to go  femrap   Nov-07-11 06:33 PM   #163 
  - It was a nurse's aide who did CPR on Congress woman Giffords and  truedelphi   Nov-06-11 07:35 PM   #40 
  - Happened in cooking/ restaurants too.  bengalherder   Nov-06-11 08:22 PM   #41 
  - Yup. Sounds like me.  progressoid   Nov-06-11 08:24 PM   #42 
  - Similar story here.  Bonobo   Nov-06-11 08:27 PM   #43 
  - Instead of a $1Million statue to Reagan, I say pay the nurses!  Fire Walk With Me   Nov-06-11 09:00 PM   #49 
  - The rich need all the little people in the middle class to sufer wage reductions. That way  applegrove   Nov-06-11 09:11 PM   #52 
  - way back in the '70s....  unkachuck   Nov-06-11 09:13 PM   #53 
  - I made 7.50 flipping burgers at the college  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-06-11 09:15 PM   #55 
  - In 1989, I made $18.25 an hour ... now that job now longer exists  REP   Nov-06-11 09:35 PM   #58 
  - Simple supply and demand. Too many workers and too few jobs -  lynne   Nov-06-11 09:39 PM   #60 
  - I don't mean this as an anti immigrant comment. But do immigrants who are willing to work for less  totodeinhere   Nov-06-11 09:41 PM   #61 
  - "That is the line that we hear sometimes."  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 05:08 AM   #97 
  - Did you read the link in the other reply to my question?  totodeinhere   Nov-07-11 09:57 AM   #121 
  - Yes.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-07-11 09:50 AM   #119 
  - No. Outsourcing and the increase in hiring "salaried" workers that work for  Lorien   Nov-07-11 11:00 AM   #135 
  - Most immigrants do not work for 'less'.  RaleighNCDUer   Nov-07-11 12:02 PM   #148 
  - My peak income was 1989.  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-06-11 09:55 PM   #62 
  - I started at UPS  xloadiex   Nov-06-11 09:55 PM   #63 
  - That's how it is with my former employer, too.  GoCubsGo   Nov-06-11 10:34 PM   #65 
  - My brother was a union steward hen he worked for UPS  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 11:14 PM   #71 
  - It isn't hyperbole  Harmony Blue   Nov-06-11 10:36 PM   #66 
  - While unemployed, I interviewed for an entry-level position at a glassware plant near PIttsburgh  Orrex   Nov-06-11 11:02 PM   #68 
  - The way health care reimbursement has affected me...  MrMickeysMom   Nov-06-11 11:04 PM   #69 
  - when I got into my field...  awoke_in_2003   Nov-06-11 11:32 PM   #72 
  - K&R (n/t)  a2liberal   Nov-06-11 11:55 PM   #76 
  - kick! Outstanding thread. NT  aaaaaa5a   Nov-07-11 12:52 AM   #79 
  - Here are some numbers as to how bad things are  aaaaaa5a   Nov-07-11 01:17 AM   #80 
  - Shocking.  avaistheone1   Nov-07-11 01:23 AM   #81 
  - I can remember VIVIDLY....  aaaaaa5a   Nov-07-11 01:28 AM   #82 
  - Good. God.  AzDar   Nov-07-11 06:23 PM   #160 
  - Do I EVER appreciate nurses and their aides!!  DFW   Nov-07-11 04:15 AM   #86 
  - K&R!  Enthusiast   Nov-07-11 04:19 AM   #87 
  - US Postal Service: "temporary" - $11 hour, 12 hour shifts, no bennies.  Divernan   Nov-07-11 04:21 AM   #88 
  - I have done that exact job for almost 15 years.  Occulus   Nov-07-11 09:53 AM   #120 
  - New law grads: $15/hr-no benefits; or working for FREE to get experience  Divernan   Nov-07-11 04:37 AM   #92 
  - In 1989 had not Reagan been president for awhile, and then came Bush as his  Obamanaut   Nov-07-11 05:32 AM   #98 
  - This is amazing to me.  cyrakitty   Nov-07-11 05:50 AM   #100 
  - And who took the other half of the nurses aide's pay?  fasttense   Nov-07-11 05:52 AM   #101 
  - Fed Chairman Paul Volcker said it many years ago.  Ikonoklast   Nov-07-11 07:02 AM   #104 
  - I'd make one change to what he said...  raccoon   Nov-07-11 08:34 AM   #111 
  - +1000.  HughBeaumont   Nov-07-11 10:51 AM   #134 
  - Unless they decide to demand what they are worth. That's the flip side  closeupready   Nov-07-11 11:56 AM   #146 
  - in '88 i was making $18 an hour as a legal  DesertFlower   Nov-07-11 07:45 AM   #107 
  - Good post. Here is what that wage looks like today  aaaaaa5a   Nov-07-11 09:32 AM   #115 
  - I'm another former legal secretary.  Blue_In_AK   Nov-07-11 07:02 PM   #165 
  - Musician club Wages  mpgalloway   Nov-07-11 09:19 AM   #114 
  - Hah, same story here...  Flatulo   Nov-07-11 10:18 AM   #122 
  - "...tiny, shitty house that is paid for ..."  CrispyQ   Nov-07-11 07:25 PM   #166 
     - Oh yeah, most of my peers bought $350K+ McMansions. I just could  Flatulo   Nov-07-11 08:19 PM   #169 
  - Already came to mine. In 1990 I worked as a "clean up artist" (assistant animator)  Lorien   Nov-07-11 10:24 AM   #123 
  - I'm not sure...  discntnt_irny_srcsm   Nov-07-11 10:40 AM   #129 
  - K&R best OP and conversation in months  Mimosa   Nov-07-11 10:47 AM   #130 
  - "Should I buy a Prius?" nt  Romulox   Nov-07-11 10:49 AM   #133 
  - I make, after 10 years of working and adjusted for inflation . . .  HughBeaumont   Nov-07-11 11:01 AM   #136 
  - Sad  Johnny2X2X   Nov-07-11 11:03 AM   #137 
  - One word: Jobs  L. Coyote   Nov-07-11 11:24 AM   #138 
  - Oh, yeah. I see this, too. Temp jobs that paid $25/hr in 1999 in New York now pay $19/hr.  closeupready   Nov-07-11 11:42 AM   #141 
  - Been screaming it for quite some time.  OwnedByFerrets   Nov-07-11 12:04 PM   #149 
  - What state?  IADEMO2004   Nov-07-11 12:42 PM   #150 
  - that's what they want to do to teachers  Enrique   Nov-07-11 05:51 PM   #159 
  - Kickty  StarsInHerHair   Nov-07-11 06:51 PM   #164 
  - Instead of raising wages, they gave out easy, accessible credit.  CrispyQ   Nov-07-11 07:31 PM   #168 
     - Perfect point.  Horse with no Name   Nov-08-11 01:58 PM   #170 
     - The movie is fantastic.  CrispyQ   Nov-08-11 03:55 PM   #173 
     - Or Capitalism Hits the Fan, which makes this point exactly  EFerrari   Nov-08-11 02:02 PM   #171 
 

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