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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 03:52 PM
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46. They can all go to hell. Our society can not afford to pay the high prices of pro basketball.
And the stadiums are a giant rip off. Tax professional players and owners.
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  -Michael Jordan "is the owner most determined to bury the basketball players union financially" Better Believe It  Nov-06-11 01:38 PM   #0 
  - Too bad he isn't as great a thinker as he was a basketball player  Bozita   Nov-06-11 01:44 PM   #1 
  - Snort.  lonestarnot   Nov-09-11 08:47 AM   #147 
  - So the average NBA salary would fall from $5 million per year to $4-4.5 million per year?  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 01:45 PM   #2 
  - Does your heart also bleed for the billionaire owners?  Warren Stupidity   Nov-06-11 01:59 PM   #5 
  - I'm not going to waste any sympathy on the players *or* the owners.  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 02:08 PM   #9 
  - But you chose to express your disgust only at the players.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-06-11 02:09 PM   #11 
     - OK. I'm disgusted at the owners, too. (nt)  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 02:12 PM   #13 
        - You had to be pushed to say it, though.  Ken Burch   Nov-06-11 10:58 PM   #84 
  - They can all go to hell. Our society can not afford to pay the high prices of pro basketball.  rhett o rick   Nov-06-11 03:52 PM   #46 
     - I just don't care  Pigheaded   Nov-07-11 11:20 AM   #108 
        - They most certainly are relevant when tax payers are financing their stadiums.  cui bono   Nov-07-11 01:41 PM   #123 
  - Is that an attempt to justify the owners demands for over a billion dollars out of the players pay?  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 02:06 PM   #8 
  - I'll worry about basketball players salaries being reduced from $5 million to $4 million  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 02:11 PM   #12 
     - That's not the bottom line issue. It's another case of employer union busting.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 02:17 PM   #15 
        - I would like to see NBA players and other sports Union  dotymed   Nov-07-11 12:22 PM   #112 
  - Screw that - A union brother is a union brother.  Drahthaardogs   Nov-06-11 03:01 PM   #34 
  - I believe that too  SnakeEyes   Nov-06-11 07:38 PM   #61 
  - That's probably because cops are trained and used to break strikes/unions/ and ball players aren't  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 09:09 PM   #72 
  - NFL PLAYERS HAVE CROSSED PICKET LINES BEFORE!  Logical   Nov-08-11 10:36 PM   #142 
     - How many AFL-CIO unions crossed strike picket lines during the PATCO Air Traffic Controllers Strike?  Better Believe It   Nov-08-11 10:48 PM   #143 
        - My point is the nfl/nba unions are not real labor unions! They do not give a shit...  Logical   Nov-08-11 10:59 PM   #145 
           - And who are you to decide what workers are organized into "real" labor unions?  Better Believe It   Nov-09-11 08:45 AM   #146 
  - It's always wrong to take the side of the owners against the players  Ken Burch   Nov-06-11 10:58 PM   #83 
  - And the owner's salary would increase by many more millions .  Bandit   Nov-07-11 10:06 AM   #102 
  - I imagine many people have a cut-off point  LanternWaste   Nov-07-11 12:29 PM   #114 
  - Rich players vs even richer owners all wanting even more money.  Peter1x9   Nov-06-11 01:49 PM   #3 
  - Yep. What about the people serving the beer and cleaning the toilets at the stadium  progressoid   Nov-06-11 01:58 PM   #4 
  - The owners sure as hell don't and if they take a billion dollars out of the players income they ....  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 02:08 PM   #10 
  - Nope and that is a shame. Once more it is the little guy  ChazII   Nov-06-11 10:44 PM   #81 
  - fair enough but the players started out conceding accepting lower salaries and caps.  Warren Stupidity   Nov-06-11 02:00 PM   #6 
  - At least the players DO something for the money. The owners do nothing.  Ken Burch   Nov-06-11 11:00 PM   #85 
  - Excessive. No doubt.  Horse with no Name   Nov-06-11 02:05 PM   #7 
  - He Was Being Paid Thirty Million A Year  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:15 PM   #14 
  - He is selfish and greedy. He made his so screw everyone else coming up! A typical owner.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 02:18 PM   #16 
  - He Also Refused To Campaign For Harvey Gant In His Race Against Jesse Helms  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:24 PM   #18 
     - MJ is an asshole. nt  femrap   Nov-06-11 09:35 PM   #78 
     - Harvey Gantt paved the way  Carolina   Nov-07-11 01:49 PM   #124 
  - He as paid that in his latter years. He played for peanuts most of his career. He was not paid some  Pisces   Nov-06-11 02:28 PM   #20 
     - You Act Like 23 Was The Only Basketball Player In The World Worth Thity Million Dollars  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:35 PM   #22 
        - Here ya go  U4ikLefty   Nov-08-11 10:57 PM   #144 
  - They can keep their ball and go home forever for all I care...  Moostache   Nov-06-11 02:19 PM   #17 
  - There Is A Lockout In The NBA As There Was In The NFL  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:37 PM   #23 
  - What you propose would happen in a utopian socialist society. But meanwhile, who do you support?  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 02:38 PM   #26 
     - I see....  Moostache   Nov-07-11 11:15 AM   #107 
        - Good points .... the corporate owners could use them in their drive to destroy the players union.  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 12:16 PM   #110 
  - The players are the product and the labor in this case  rurallib   Nov-06-11 02:27 PM   #19 
  - The size of the players paychecks isn't the point.  xchrom   Nov-06-11 02:31 PM   #21 
  - PLUS ONE  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:38 PM   #24 
  - Quick question....  WCGreen   Nov-06-11 02:39 PM   #27 
  - How many millionaire players from the New York Knicks have stopped by at Zuccotti Park  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 02:49 PM   #28 
  - You don't know. How many of Obama's Wall Street campaign donors have stopped by Zuccotti Park  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 03:01 PM   #33 
     - There it is!  Bobbie Jo   Nov-07-11 10:34 AM   #103 
  - I Saw Grant Hill Campaign For John Kerry  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:55 PM   #30 
     - And I remember Sandy Alomar refusing to shake hands with  WCGreen   Nov-06-11 10:40 PM   #80 
        - Most Of The Players Are Democrats. Most Of The Owners Are GOP  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 08:54 AM   #95 
  - So if there was a National Union of Goldman Sachs Traders  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 02:52 PM   #29 
     - Get Back To Me When The Goldman Sachs Traders Form A Union  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 02:59 PM   #32 
  - why are we surprised about a 1 percenter acting like a 1 percenter?  dembotoz   Nov-06-11 02:38 PM   #25 
  - Billionaires squabbling with millionaires.  Lizzie Poppet   Nov-06-11 02:57 PM   #31 
  - What side do you think Wall Street and corporate American supports in this union busting operation?  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 03:03 PM   #35 
     - The Players Are Still Labor, Albeit Rich Labor  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 03:04 PM   #37 
     - I've been following this dispute a bit.  Lizzie Poppet   Nov-06-11 03:09 PM   #38 
     - And how much of the working class majority supports the owners according to your research?  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 03:34 PM   #44 
        - Wouldn't call it "research."  Lizzie Poppet   Nov-06-11 04:04 PM   #47 
           - I understand your point. And it's true that pro-capitalist propaganda did well in the past.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 04:38 PM   #51 
           - Well, you know in this case,  GreenArrow   Nov-06-11 04:45 PM   #53 
              - Yes...and I think the majority of working class folks see no heroes in that dispute.  Lizzie Poppet   Nov-06-11 05:02 PM   #55 
                 - One of the few actual teams in the NBA is the Dallas Mavericks.  KamaAina   Nov-07-11 12:47 PM   #116 
           - I think one might also consider that  GreenArrow   Nov-06-11 04:44 PM   #52 
              - But throwing a ball through a hoop is so much more important than educating our kids (nt)  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 04:50 PM   #54 
              - The owners are not interested in educating your kids, just theirs who they send to private schools.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 05:32 PM   #57 
              - They always try to pit lower paid workers against higher paid ones.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 05:31 PM   #56 
                 - I don't see either outcome benefitting working class people,  GreenArrow   Nov-06-11 06:37 PM   #59 
                    - I see the corporate owners winning this battle as a win for big business and Wall Street  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 06:56 PM   #60 
                       - Well, that's probably true if you work  GreenArrow   Nov-06-11 07:54 PM   #66 
                          - In a conflict between Wall Street/Big Business against employees I'll always stand with labor.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 09:17 PM   #73 
                          - "It's greed versus greedier"  Lordquinton   Nov-07-11 01:44 AM   #90 
     - Right. And on the other hand, ballers are CONSTANTLY joining picket lines for their union brothers.  Romulox   Nov-07-11 10:52 AM   #106 
  - one percenters quarreling with .50 percenters.  spanone   Nov-06-11 03:04 PM   #36 
  - To be fair, the ability to throw a ball through a metal hoop is of enormous value to society.  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 03:11 PM   #39 
     - Do You Think If There Was No NBA , Salaries For Brain Surgeons Would Go Up?  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 03:13 PM   #40 
        - If we banned professional entertainment the pay for rocket scientists would go up 20%!  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 03:31 PM   #43 
        - wrong question  U4ikLefty   Nov-09-11 02:23 PM   #149 
  - I support Unions. I do not support Union-Busters. Doesn't matter if the pay is 5.00 or 5 million..  AzDar   Nov-06-11 03:17 PM   #41 
  - I Have Been Following The Dispute  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-06-11 03:20 PM   #42 
  - ". . . Michael Jordan is ... a cheap, stingy, mean-spirited,  99 Percent Sure   Nov-06-11 03:46 PM   #45 
  - This basketball-loving, Jordan-hater agrees with you completely  catzies   Nov-06-11 06:33 PM   #58 
  - Sorry Jordan ended the Lakers dynasty era  SnakeEyes   Nov-06-11 07:49 PM   #65 
  - Actually, the Detroit Pistons ended the Lakers'  99 Percent Sure   Nov-06-11 10:38 PM   #79 
  - He got away with a lot of fouls yet, if any player  99 Percent Sure   Nov-06-11 09:06 PM   #71 
  - Say what you want about him as a person..  JackDragna   Nov-07-11 09:02 AM   #99 
  - Jordan Was A Great Basketball Player But A Lousy Human Being  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 08:52 AM   #94 
     - Don't forget "Dr. J"!  onpatrol98   Nov-08-11 10:33 PM   #141 
  - Ditto  Carolina   Nov-07-11 01:56 PM   #126 
  - Couldn't we just abandon these douchebag owners and start our own companies?  Initech   Nov-06-11 04:20 PM   #48 
  - Nope. It's not allowed by the professional sports owner trusts.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 04:36 PM   #50 
  - Me no likey Mikey.  City Lights   Nov-06-11 04:21 PM   #49 
  - You don't have to like him to admit he's a great basketball player.  Pisces   Nov-06-11 08:06 PM   #67 
     - He was a great player. As was the baseball player Ty Cobb. He was also a hard core racist asshole.  Better Believe It   Nov-06-11 09:19 PM   #75 
     - And Floyd Mayweather Is A Great Boxer  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 08:56 AM   #96 
     - He pushed off on Byron Russell  U4ikLefty   Nov-09-11 02:26 PM   #150 
  - The truth is, he's always been kind of a douche.  Lex   Nov-06-11 07:40 PM   #62 
  - Word. He didn't really let his dickish flag fly until he retired,  bullwinkle428   Nov-06-11 08:56 PM   #70 
  - Wah wah  cwydro   Nov-06-11 07:42 PM   #63 
  - +1  Nye Bevan   Nov-06-11 08:12 PM   #68 
  - Since the 1990s.  SnakeEyes   Nov-06-11 07:46 PM   #64 
  - Or he could be just a douche bag  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Nov-06-11 09:20 PM   #76 
  - I'm from Chicago, was a big fan of MJ and the Bulls in the 90s hey day.  Hassin Bin Sober   Nov-07-11 01:22 AM   #88 
  - If He Comes Out Of Retirement And Wins Four More Championships  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 02:30 PM   #127 
  - knr  frylock   Nov-06-11 08:36 PM   #69 
  - Jordan is a scumbag degenerate gambler with a God complex  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Nov-06-11 09:17 PM   #74 
  - MJ is the  femrap   Nov-06-11 09:33 PM   #77 
  - He Was In A Car With Barkley.  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 09:01 AM   #98 
     - I don't think  femrap   Nov-07-11 11:55 AM   #109 
  - We should have known this was coming when MJ REFUSED to endorse Harvey Gantt  Ken Burch   Nov-06-11 10:56 PM   #82 
  - All of the players aren't rich. All of the owners are wealthy.  SharksBreath   Nov-07-11 01:05 AM   #86 
  - Let's not forget  rpannier   Nov-07-11 01:18 AM   #87 
  - It's different on the other side of the business.  MrSlayer   Nov-07-11 01:30 AM   #89 
  - The major league sports business needs to be reinvented.  tcaudilllg   Nov-07-11 05:20 AM   #91 
  - That won't happen until their anti-trust exemptions are ended by Congress.  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 08:22 AM   #92 
  - The owners only need 16 votes to approve  n2doc   Nov-07-11 08:47 AM   #93 
  - He's Mad Becausec His Little Franchise Is Irrelevant  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 08:57 AM   #97 
  - why do you think they call them Air Jordans?  TheeHazelnut   Nov-07-11 09:10 AM   #100 
  - Never could stand the guy.  Faygo Kid   Nov-07-11 09:45 AM   #101 
  - Now his Hitler moustache finally makes sense  Blue Owl   Nov-07-11 10:50 AM   #104 
  - Poor, poor NBA players. This is a *LABOR* issue!  Romulox   Nov-07-11 10:51 AM   #105 
  - Strike breaking and union busting is always a labor issue even in the entertainment industry  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 12:19 PM   #111 
  - Right. Just like the NBA ballers walk the picket line with the SEIU. It's all "labor".  Romulox   Nov-07-11 12:40 PM   #115 
     - There is no NBA players union picketline so what's your point?  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 01:09 PM   #117 
        - There's also no Solidarity between the NBA Players' Union and any other union.  Romulox   Nov-07-11 01:31 PM   #121 
  - Why such hostility toward the labor movement and support for corporate owners by you?  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 01:12 PM   #118 
  - It's not a "labor movement", and to dub it such trivializes the very concept.  Romulox   Nov-07-11 01:33 PM   #122 
     - Most Of The NBA Is Comprised  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-07-11 02:33 PM   #128 
     - Do you also hate baseball and football players and support these entertainment industry owners?  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 04:02 PM   #130 
        - For real? You're using the internet, and you're complaining you don't know the meaning of a word?  Romulox   Nov-07-11 05:26 PM   #133 
        - I had to look it up. Sorry that I and most other workers aren't as smart and educated as you are.  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 05:35 PM   #136 
           - You also don't know much about history (cultural revolution reference: over your head.)  Romulox   Nov-07-11 06:42 PM   #138 
        - The claim made that the basketball players and their union never supported public workers is a lie  Better Believe It   Nov-08-11 07:48 PM   #140 
  - Hard to get too worked up about the 1% bickering among themselves  Nye Bevan   Nov-07-11 01:18 PM   #119 
     - Don't you understand how the outcome can impact the wages and benefits of stadium workers?  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 01:30 PM   #120 
        - The two things aren't related (even a little.) Stadium workers made min. wage under the previous  Romulox   Nov-07-11 05:29 PM   #135 
  - If the corporate owners cut the players pay they'll increase the stadium workers pay. Bull shit!  Better Believe It   Nov-07-11 12:22 PM   #113 
  - "Republicans buy sneakers, too."  Orsino   Nov-07-11 01:55 PM   #125 
  - As a Pistons fan, I've always hated him. Now I have a GOOD reason!  catbyte   Nov-07-11 03:41 PM   #129 
  - Oh Man - he can be the next anti-Romney  mdmc   Nov-07-11 04:04 PM   #131 
  - So Charlotte is responsible for the downfall of the NBA in addition to the financial meltdown?  taterguy   Nov-07-11 05:07 PM   #132 
  - Give it up; nobody is crying for Bron Bron  Romulox   Nov-07-11 05:28 PM   #134 
  - holy crap I'm out of it  Enrique   Nov-07-11 05:35 PM   #137 
  - NBA strike  adam in oregon   Nov-07-11 08:40 PM   #139 
  - " just another money-losing owner " Kind of says it all, doesn't it? (I support Jordan)  nomb   Nov-09-11 08:51 AM   #148 
  - Amazing what money can do to one - if they allow themselves to only care about money.  GreenTea   Nov-09-11 02:46 PM   #151 
     - That seems to be his only concern in life.  Better Believe It   Nov-09-11 05:53 PM   #152 

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