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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 09:08 AM
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16. Brings to mind Mark Twain's aphorism that there are 'lies,
damned lies and statistics.'

Rather than call it 'poverty,' why not call it 'subsistence living'? Becuase even with food stamps, UI, WIC and so on, these people are 'subsisting'. They are not thriving or prospering.

Fuck the NYTimes. It lost all credibility with its coverage of the run-up to Operation Shocking and Awful. It has the lives of 1,000,000+ Iraqis on its hands to answer for and should just STFU.
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  -Extreme Poverty Is Now At Record Levels: over 20 million Americans at less than 1/2 of poverty level stockholmer  Nov-05-11 06:52 PM   #0 
  - I talked to someone today who lives on $750 a month  undeterred   Nov-05-11 06:58 PM   #1 
  - And the Supercommittee has put Social Security cuts on the table,  Raksha   Nov-05-11 07:06 PM   #2 
  - We couldn't have ended up with predatory capitalism without collusion of Dems with Repugs -- !!  defendandprotect   Nov-05-11 07:09 PM   #4 
  - Then we need to get rid of these Dems and replace them  undeterred   Nov-05-11 07:13 PM   #5 
  - But the Occupy Movement IS NOT going along with it.  coalition_unwilling   Nov-06-11 09:01 AM   #13 
  - Yes. But is it living or just existing?  Downwinder   Nov-05-11 07:57 PM   #8 
  - I never shop at the grocery store he goes to because  undeterred   Nov-05-11 08:49 PM   #10 
  - I can - I live on $694 a month and get $169 food stamps and medicare.  jwirr   Nov-05-11 08:53 PM   #11 
  - Wow, That must be tough.  undeterred   Nov-06-11 08:58 AM   #12 
  - Yes, I feel the prices going up a lot. But I have always been poor  jwirr   Nov-06-11 09:51 AM   #23 
  - Get on as many lists for housing as possible...In my state there are  ooglymoogly   Nov-06-11 12:43 PM   #32 
  - I live on about $600 a month.  dorksied   Nov-06-11 12:02 PM   #30 
  - 66 million Americans living in poverty -- 46 million us efood stamps -- !!!  defendandprotect   Nov-05-11 07:07 PM   #3 
  - Considering the Democratic Collusion, I sometimes wonder if we need a new party. nt  Ilsa   Nov-05-11 07:14 PM   #6 
  - I've given up on the Dems. I'm now placing all hopes in the  coalition_unwilling   Nov-06-11 09:04 AM   #15 
  - Me, too... n/t  chervilant   Nov-06-11 11:30 AM   #28 
  - ABSO-effin-LUTELY!!!! n/t  chervilant   Nov-06-11 11:30 AM   #27 
  - another 'achievement'. this is an absolutely conscious policy, btw.  inna   Nov-05-11 07:16 PM   #7 
  - Welcome to Dickensian America v1.0. V2.0 is in the works.  kestrel91316   Nov-05-11 08:13 PM   #9 
  - I just read in the NYT yesterday that poverty was really at an all time low  boston bean   Nov-06-11 09:04 AM   #14 
  - Brings to mind Mark Twain's aphorism that there are 'lies,  coalition_unwilling   Nov-06-11 09:08 AM   #16 
     - just found the link. took a few minutes...  boston bean   Nov-06-11 09:13 AM   #17 
        - Thanks for the link. I grew up poor and have scars that, 40 years  coalition_unwilling   Nov-06-11 09:19 AM   #19 
           - if they are going to count those types of benefits, doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose.  boston bean   Nov-06-11 09:31 AM   #20 
              - Yes, the original measure of poverty counted only cash income, not  coalition_unwilling   Nov-06-11 09:41 AM   #21 
              - I agree. I think the line they use is way off base to begin with.  boston bean   Nov-06-11 09:45 AM   #22 
              - It will likely end up a way to reduce benefits even further, on the sly.  TheKentuckian   Nov-06-11 09:57 AM   #24 
                 - Yes, that is my concern as well.  boston bean   Nov-06-11 10:12 AM   #26 
                 - AND,  chervilant   Nov-06-11 11:34 AM   #29 
  - Shared sacrifice and Austerity measure FOR THE 99%!!! Leave the 1% aka the job creators ALONE,  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-06-11 09:16 AM   #18 
  - I wish they could talk to my Somalian friend Margaret...  mntleo2   Nov-07-11 05:14 AM   #34 
  - wrong place...  boston bean   Nov-06-11 10:10 AM   #25 
  - On the surface,  chervilant   Nov-06-11 12:39 PM   #31 
  - This is why the 1% had better give occupy exactly what they're asking for.  JoeyT   Nov-06-11 05:10 PM   #33 
  - Kick! nt  paparush   Nov-07-11 07:22 AM   #35 
  - Hey Washington stop playing golf and drinking and get these people  midnight   Nov-08-11 04:31 PM   #36 

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