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Sun Nov-06-11 09:37 AM
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| 45. I STRONGLY beg to differ, nessa. |
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And here is why: The doctors can never be %100 percent sure that the fetus is dead. They make their diagnosis, and they make recommendations, but I was told MANY times that there would always be a small percentage of a chance that the fetus was still alive. In most of the D&C's I had--all except the first--I had already started bleeding. But with that first one, there is no telling how long it could have taken for me to start bleeding on my own.
All of my D&C's went down in the books as "abortions". The fundies (don't you love how your spell checker turns "fundies" into "fun dies?" I just thing that is soooo appropriate.) don't give a crappola whether the fetus is living or dead. They want to STOP D&C's. Period.
Also, one little detail I left out of the story is that my mother once had a stillbirth. No telling how long that "baby" had been dead. Since it was most likely caused by the translocation, if she had had amniocentesis and abortion available to her, she might not have had to go through such a heartbreaking experience.
And another thing. If any of my UNbalanced translocation pregnancies (the ones for which I had "abortions") had gone full term, I was told that the "baby" would probably not be able to live on its own. I would either give birth to a dead baby, or it would be so wrought with defects that it would die very shortly after birth. With access to amnio, I never had to worry about that. My husband and I wouldn't have allowed a pregnancy with an unbalanced translocation to progress that far. We would have gotten an abortion. Fortunately, I never had to make that decision. But also, fortunately, the CHOICE was available to us.
And finally, that bill in Mississippi does not distinguish between living or dead fetuses. It simply states that "life" begins at "conception" (however you define that!). Since no doctor can ever be 100% sure that a fetus is dead, no doctor would ever be willing to put his/her license on the line to do a D&C on ANYONE. Except, probably, for those angels like Dr. Hern in Boulder, who constantly has people standing outside his office "praying" and yelling at people entering to "not KILL their baby."
If anyone had yelled that at me I probably would have LOST IT.
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| -Aerows has inspired me. My "abortions". |
kag |
Nov-05-11 03:14 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your story. |
dkf |
Nov-05-11 03:21 PM |
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Great post - thanks for taking the time to share your unique story. nt |
TBF |
Nov-05-11 03:22 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your story. |
madinmaryland |
Nov-05-11 03:35 PM |
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Thank you so much for posting- I had no idea about circumstances such as that. |
Poll_Blind |
Nov-05-11 03:36 PM |
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Thank you, Poll_Bind. |
kag |
Nov-05-11 03:41 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Nov-05-11 03:41 PM |
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Coyote_Bandit |
Nov-05-11 03:44 PM |
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K&R for a strong, brave woman. |
Brickbat |
Nov-05-11 03:46 PM |
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Sounds a lot like our story. |
Sirveri |
Nov-05-11 03:49 PM |
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I am so sorry, Sirveri. |
kag |
Nov-05-11 04:01 PM |
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................. |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-05-11 03:53 PM |
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Thanks. |
Ship of Fools |
Nov-05-11 04:15 PM |
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K&R! What a heartbreaking and inspiring story... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-05-11 04:25 PM |
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I'm glad I inspired you to share your story |
Aerows |
Nov-05-11 05:11 PM |
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Yes, thanks, Aerows. |
kag |
Nov-05-11 08:49 PM |
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EXCELLENT. thank you so much! |
RainDog |
Nov-05-11 05:30 PM |
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Thank you for sharing and hug your two beautiful kids for me |
Lunabelle |
Nov-05-11 05:42 PM |
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Inspiring and educational! |
burrowowl |
Nov-05-11 06:03 PM |
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Thank you for your story |
catrose |
Nov-05-11 06:23 PM |
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Thanks, catrose. |
kag |
Nov-05-11 09:19 PM |
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Thank you so much for having the strength to share your story with all of us, you are a brave and |
louslobbs |
Nov-05-11 06:46 PM |
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Thank you kag, for a touching story |
hatrack |
Nov-05-11 06:55 PM |
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Thank you so much for sharing your story. |
Withywindle |
Nov-05-11 06:56 PM |
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"pro-life" activists: (crickets) (crickets) then... |
alp227 |
Nov-05-11 07:23 PM |
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It's THE reason - because it's part of a larger mindset that needs to be kept from power |
RainDog |
Nov-05-11 07:26 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your story - I had to have a D&C once |
nadine_mn |
Nov-05-11 07:59 PM |
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Nadine, thank you. |
kag |
Nov-05-11 08:59 PM |
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thank you for sharing.... |
madrchsod |
Nov-05-11 08:50 PM |
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I don't think |
femrap |
Nov-05-11 10:03 PM |
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thanks so much for sharing that |
FirstLight |
Nov-05-11 10:48 PM |
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My heart goes out to you, FirstLight. |
kag |
Nov-06-11 09:00 AM |
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An amazing story. Not easy being human as it is. |
immoderate |
Nov-05-11 10:54 PM |
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Wow, this story was... |
CoffeeCat |
Nov-05-11 10:56 PM |
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Thank you so much for you story |
OhioBlue |
Nov-05-11 10:59 PM |
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Wow, Ohio Blue! |
kag |
Nov-06-11 09:16 AM |
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Wow, thank you for sharing |
jmondine |
Nov-05-11 11:06 PM |
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I am so thankful to people like you, jmondine. |
kag |
Nov-06-11 10:07 AM |
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And this should only ever be an issue to be decided by you, your husband and Doctor n/t |
hootinholler |
Nov-05-11 11:21 PM |
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Certainly not Slappy Thomas |
Doctor_J |
Nov-06-11 06:54 AM |
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Amen to that. |
xxqqqzme |
Nov-06-11 10:59 AM |
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Been a while |
hootinholler |
Nov-06-11 03:21 PM |
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7 (SEVEN!) years in |
xxqqqzme |
Nov-06-11 05:15 PM |
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OMG |
hootinholler |
Nov-06-11 09:54 PM |
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You are sweet to say so. |
xxqqqzme |
Nov-07-11 10:50 AM |
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Get a room! |
kag |
Nov-07-11 01:47 PM |
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Hugs to you and yours. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-06-11 04:43 AM |
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My sister and her husband.. Christian as can be |
glowing |
Nov-06-11 06:22 AM |
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Thank you for a clear and compelling example of why these bills |
annabanana |
Nov-06-11 07:00 AM |
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Yours is a touching story, but you can be sure ... |
nessa |
Nov-06-11 07:09 AM |
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I STRONGLY beg to differ, nessa. |
kag |
Nov-06-11 09:37 AM |
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No, |
chervilant |
Nov-06-11 10:02 AM |
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I'm just looking at the legislation as it has been presented... |
nessa |
Nov-06-11 12:02 PM |
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In VA, a GOP legislator tried to require women to report miscarriages to the police |
Neurotica |
Nov-06-11 12:28 PM |
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Okay, let me say it a different way. |
kag |
Nov-06-11 01:02 PM |
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Really? |
chervilant |
Nov-06-11 01:17 PM |
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And yet, almost every factory I ever walked through has fumes that would knock |
truedelphi |
Nov-07-11 03:27 PM |
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Great point, truedelphi. |
kag |
Nov-08-11 03:04 AM |
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One of the valid points that RW Christians bring up is this |
truedelphi |
Nov-08-11 04:09 PM |
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Some politicians already oppose abortions even if it's to protect the life of the mother |
NickB79 |
Nov-06-11 01:59 PM |
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We had one of those here in Colorado in 2010. |
kag |
Nov-08-11 07:05 AM |
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Telling your story helps dispel the abysmal ignorance |
lunatica |
Nov-06-11 07:10 AM |
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Yes, I did, lunatica. |
kag |
Nov-06-11 01:31 PM |
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Thanks So Much For Your Story! |
Kath1 |
Nov-06-11 08:07 AM |
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Thank you Kath1. |
kag |
Nov-06-11 09:44 AM |
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You Can Count On It! |
Kath1 |
Nov-07-11 09:09 AM |
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Plus a gazillion + 50 million times infinity times a gazillion! n/t |
chervilant |
Nov-06-11 10:05 AM |
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thank you for sharing |
fizzgig |
Nov-06-11 11:22 AM |
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So glad I didn't have coffee in my mouth when I read this. |
kag |
Nov-07-11 01:50 PM |
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Love It Too! |
Kath1 |
Nov-08-11 05:17 AM |
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Thank you for your story. |
LWolf |
Nov-06-11 03:13 PM |
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Indeed, LWolf |
kag |
Nov-06-11 04:26 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your story |
backtoblue |
Nov-08-11 04:17 PM |
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