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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-11 05:31 PM
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106. Trying to understand why they do what they do is not inconsistent
with "taking a very tough stance against" something. In fact, one might argue that those who are the toughest on Al Qaeda are the ones working hardest to make sure we quit giving them reasons to do what they do.
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  -I just saw one reason democrats keep losing. Archae  Nov-05-11 12:37 PM   #0 
  - What would Americans do if other nations installed military bases on our shores?  polichick   Nov-05-11 12:39 PM   #1 
  - It depends on if the US is asked to, or not.  Archae   Nov-05-11 12:44 PM   #3 
  - We hear mostly what the mic wants us to hear about that.  polichick   Nov-05-11 12:48 PM   #11 
  - Germany has a sweet little base (more like a facility) out at Dulles in VA.  MADem   Nov-05-11 12:54 PM   #17 
  - We only go where we are welcomed? Rummy said the same thing, just before we  Exilednight   Nov-06-11 06:19 AM   #78 
     - You don't seem to understand that many nations are not democracies.  MADem   Nov-06-11 02:11 PM   #104 
  - Put to a vote of who? Like in Iraq, you're saying, after we overthrew Saddam  Laluchacontinua   Nov-05-11 01:42 PM   #36 
  - You mean the puppet governments want the bases, because  sabrina 1   Nov-05-11 10:32 PM   #70 
  - We would take up the issue with our own government.  aikoaiko   Nov-05-11 12:45 PM   #5 
  - Good luck with that - we've "taken up" these fake wars with "our" gov't for years.  polichick   Nov-05-11 12:47 PM   #9 
  - Most of us, but the militants in the militia movement will resort to plane jackings and car bombs.  Selatius   Nov-05-11 12:51 PM   #14 
     - Exactly - that's the American equivalent.  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:15 PM   #24 
  - You do realize those bases are there with the consent of the governments?  MADem   Nov-05-11 12:50 PM   #13 
     - Oh so the Iraqi's asked for us to come and build a base there?  SomethingFishy   Nov-05-11 12:55 PM   #18 
     - Check out our embassy there - #22  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:14 PM   #23 
     - Any bases that remain are there with the consent of the government of Iraq.  MADem   Nov-05-11 01:28 PM   #29 
        - Smoke and mirrors - "our" contractors are staying, along with some military personnel.  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:36 PM   #31 
        - No, actually.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 01:41 PM   #34 
        - "The legions of mercenaries aren't there"...  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:44 PM   #39 
           - Right, they're there even though only you can see them.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 01:48 PM   #42 
              - Actually, it's you who's "faith-based."  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:52 PM   #48 
        - Without SOFA. What's your point?  MADem   Nov-05-11 01:41 PM   #35 
           - The "real world" includes a U.S. military industrial complex that's out of control...  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:46 PM   #40 
              - And your imagining things doesn't help either.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 01:48 PM   #43 
              - Yeah, me and Eisenhower.  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:51 PM   #45 
                 - Eisenhower you're not.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 01:51 PM   #47 
                    - Most thinking people realize that the mic is still FACT, even more so...  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:54 PM   #50 
              - That's true. However, you're convoluting issues and no one is "making excuses."  MADem   Nov-05-11 02:01 PM   #53 
                 - I'm not "convoluting issues" - I'm saying plain and clear that the U.S.  polichick   Nov-05-11 02:45 PM   #57 
                    - We don't have verifiable voting because no one is demanding it.  MADem   Nov-05-11 08:34 PM   #61 
                    - You're a hoot - I never said anything like "give up" or "the people are powerless."  polichick   Nov-05-11 08:55 PM   #63 
                       - You sure did--look at your words--you're defeated before you begin.  MADem   Nov-05-11 09:13 PM   #66 
                          - If you would read more carefully, instead of endlessly preaching...  polichick   Nov-06-11 05:14 AM   #74 
                             - Well,I'm not "endlessly preaching," but whatever. Back your truck up if you'd like.  MADem   Nov-06-11 01:53 PM   #102 
                    - +1000!  Walk away   Nov-06-11 10:34 AM   #95 
        - Wow, just wow. Usually I have to go on a neo-con site  SomethingFishy   Nov-06-11 01:42 PM   #101 
           - Learn to read, please before you falsely accuse people of defending anything.  MADem   Nov-06-11 01:57 PM   #103 
     - This little outpost wasn't built with the permission of either country's people...  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:11 PM   #22 
     - If they want us gone, we are outta there. And the present government DOES  MADem   Nov-05-11 01:25 PM   #26 
        - Who are you kidding? This gov't does not serve "We, the People."  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:27 PM   #27 
           - If you don't vote, you can't gripe. If you don't work for YOUR candidates at the  MADem   Nov-05-11 01:39 PM   #33 
              - Well, I've never missed a vote and have worked my ass off for Dem candidates...  polichick   Nov-05-11 01:43 PM   #37 
                 - Then you, PERSONALLY, are not part of the problem. But a large percentage of  MADem   Nov-05-11 01:53 PM   #49 
     - nice to hear we are wanted in afghanistan and pakistan. didnt know that nt  msongs   Nov-05-11 01:27 PM   #28 
     - No one can possibly be so obtuse.  MADem   Nov-05-11 01:50 PM   #44 
        - stay charming  U4ikLefty   Nov-05-11 08:58 PM   #64 
           - Likewise. nt  MADem   Nov-05-11 10:23 PM   #69 
     - We installed the governments. Isn't that the issue? nt  Walk away   Nov-05-11 08:50 PM   #62 
     - We didn't do such a hot job--you think we would have chosen the guy now running Iraq if we had the  MADem   Nov-05-11 10:37 PM   #71 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-06-11 09:28 AM   #93 
  - First off, not all Dems keep losing. Second, what the hell does the 60's and SDS  county worker   Nov-05-11 12:44 PM   #2 
  - It's what the head of our local Democrats said.  Archae   Nov-05-11 12:46 PM   #7 
     - Like I said, we can't make things worse then they are. Next time say something better.  county worker   Nov-05-11 12:48 PM   #10 
     - Sounds to me like Lorenz is a DINO. Need help outing him?  Scuba   Nov-05-11 12:56 PM   #19 
     - Your OP does not contain one single actual quote from him  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 06:26 AM   #79 
     - He's not the head of your local Party, according to their website  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 06:37 AM   #80 
  - Kicked, recced, still at zero.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 12:45 PM   #4 
  - Post his essay  proud2BlibKansan   Nov-05-11 12:46 PM   #6 
  - Same here.  Rex   Nov-05-11 12:49 PM   #12 
  - I'd like to, but I can't find it online.  Archae   Nov-05-11 12:52 PM   #15 
     - Okay then, I will take your word on it.  Rex   Nov-05-11 12:57 PM   #20 
     - Don't do that, Lorenz does not even hold the position claimed  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 06:44 AM   #82 
     - I found out online that the Chairman of the Sheboygan Party is  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 07:03 AM   #86 
     - It is still possible to qutoe his words from the paper...  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 07:28 AM   #88 
  - Thumbs up  Cerebral Assassin   Nov-05-11 12:47 PM   #8 
  - There is a difference between expaining why behavior happens  libinnyandia   Nov-05-11 12:52 PM   #16 
  - Most Democrats disagree with Lorenz  MannyGoldstein   Nov-05-11 01:01 PM   #21 
  - Trying to understand why they do what they do is not inconsistent  OrwellwasRight   Nov-06-11 05:31 PM   #106 
  - Then let's look at more of the picture  Angry Dragon   Nov-05-11 01:24 PM   #25 
  - fingers are in the ears and they go 'LALALALA"  newspeak   Nov-05-11 02:01 PM   #54 
  - Why would he do that now?  EC   Nov-05-11 01:28 PM   #30 
  - I Agree That This Kind of Sentiment Does Not Go Over Well  On the Road   Nov-05-11 01:39 PM   #32 
  - But it is present heavily in a certain fraction of the left.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 01:44 PM   #38 
     - Leftists just lack the gene for jingoism..  Fumesucker   Nov-05-11 01:46 PM   #41 
        - Quite the contrary.  TheWraith   Nov-05-11 01:51 PM   #46 
           - Well, if you subscribe to the "black=white" theory I suppose it does..  Fumesucker   Nov-05-11 03:16 PM   #58 
           - Well, Those Two Examples I Agree With You On  On the Road   Nov-05-11 05:00 PM   #60 
  - Somebody  Anatos   Nov-05-11 01:56 PM   #51 
  - Terror IS irrational. Terrorists are mad dogs. There is only one way to deal with them. nt  bluestate10   Nov-05-11 11:03 PM   #72 
     - Then deal with your goverment.  RegieRocker   Nov-06-11 09:29 AM   #94 
  - Sounds like he's buddies with Ward "Little Eichmanns" Churchill.  Odin2005   Nov-05-11 01:57 PM   #52 
  - Bin laden was many things but a "fascist" he most assuredly was not. You might  coalition_unwilling   Nov-05-11 02:03 PM   #55 
  - of course Bin Laden and al Qaeda are pure evil. But does ANYONE seriously believe that if the U.S.  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-05-11 02:08 PM   #56 
  - +1000  Angry Dragon   Nov-05-11 03:39 PM   #59 
  - That just about sums it up for me.  Walk away   Nov-06-11 10:41 AM   #96 
  - Rec, but your OP is going to have some rough sailing here: "yeah, but..but...but...but"  apocalypsehow   Nov-05-11 09:07 PM   #65 
  - The problem is persistently confusing "America" with the 1%  eridani   Nov-05-11 10:07 PM   #67 
  - Did you put on your flame retardant underwear before you wrote your OP?  bluestate10   Nov-05-11 10:18 PM   #68 
  - Dead right? Lorenz is not the Chair of that local Party...  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 06:56 AM   #84 
  - Do you deny the Imperialist charge?  donheld   Nov-06-11 01:10 AM   #73 
  - If you don't believe that they hate us for our freedoms then your are just a dirty fucking hippie..  Fumesucker   Nov-06-11 05:20 AM   #75 
  - They hate us because we are killing them and supressing their freedoms.  RegieRocker   Nov-06-11 09:27 AM   #92 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-06-11 05:51 AM   #76 
  - one of the most successful corporatist history edits concerns the marginalization of "movement"  datasuspect   Nov-06-11 05:57 AM   #77 
  - He is not the head of your local Party according to them.  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 06:40 AM   #81 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-06-11 06:54 AM   #83 
     - The OP usues a lexicon that is reactionary  Bluenorthwest   Nov-06-11 07:01 AM   #85 
        - +1  xchrom   Nov-06-11 07:10 AM   #87 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-06-11 07:43 AM   #89 
  - can you please copy and paste or quote in full the offensive remarks Mr. Tim Lorenz actually said?  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-06-11 07:51 AM   #90 
  - I just saw proof republicans don't have even the slightest clue.  RegieRocker   Nov-06-11 09:25 AM   #91 
  - If we are in other people's business then you can bet...  Walk away   Nov-06-11 10:52 AM   #98 
     - it's not just oil but it is the big one.  RegieRocker   Nov-06-11 11:45 AM   #99 
  - Sorry, but American imperialism in the Middle East was/is very real.  marmar   Nov-06-11 10:41 AM   #97 
  - You don't need to apologize for the truth about this subject, ever.  RegieRocker   Nov-06-11 11:47 AM   #100 
  - I find your pursuit of a false worldview for political gain to be ultimately self defeating  TheKentuckian   Nov-06-11 02:19 PM   #105 

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