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Sun Nov-06-11 06:44 AM
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| 82. Don't do that, Lorenz does not even hold the position claimed |
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Edited on Sun Nov-06-11 06:48 AM by Bluenorthwest
He's not the head of that local Party at all. The chairman is named Andrew Bubb. Lorenz is also not vice chair, nor second vice. So the accuracy of reporting in the OP is weak. The one thing that can be fact checked checks out as not a fact. http://sheboygandemocrats.com/officers-and-board-member... |
| -I just saw one reason democrats keep losing. |
Archae |
Nov-05-11 12:37 PM |
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What would Americans do if other nations installed military bases on our shores? |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 12:39 PM |
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It depends on if the US is asked to, or not. |
Archae |
Nov-05-11 12:44 PM |
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We hear mostly what the mic wants us to hear about that. |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 12:48 PM |
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Germany has a sweet little base (more like a facility) out at Dulles in VA. |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 12:54 PM |
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We only go where we are welcomed? Rummy said the same thing, just before we |
Exilednight |
Nov-06-11 06:19 AM |
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You don't seem to understand that many nations are not democracies. |
MADem |
Nov-06-11 02:11 PM |
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Put to a vote of who? Like in Iraq, you're saying, after we overthrew Saddam |
Laluchacontinua |
Nov-05-11 01:42 PM |
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You mean the puppet governments want the bases, because |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-05-11 10:32 PM |
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We would take up the issue with our own government. |
aikoaiko |
Nov-05-11 12:45 PM |
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Good luck with that - we've "taken up" these fake wars with "our" gov't for years. |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 12:47 PM |
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Most of us, but the militants in the militia movement will resort to plane jackings and car bombs. |
Selatius |
Nov-05-11 12:51 PM |
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Exactly - that's the American equivalent. |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:15 PM |
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You do realize those bases are there with the consent of the governments? |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 12:50 PM |
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Oh so the Iraqi's asked for us to come and build a base there? |
SomethingFishy |
Nov-05-11 12:55 PM |
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Check out our embassy there - #22 |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:14 PM |
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Any bases that remain are there with the consent of the government of Iraq. |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 01:28 PM |
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Smoke and mirrors - "our" contractors are staying, along with some military personnel. |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:36 PM |
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No, actually. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 01:41 PM |
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"The legions of mercenaries aren't there"... |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:44 PM |
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Right, they're there even though only you can see them. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 01:48 PM |
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Actually, it's you who's "faith-based." |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:52 PM |
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Without SOFA. What's your point? |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 01:41 PM |
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The "real world" includes a U.S. military industrial complex that's out of control... |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:46 PM |
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And your imagining things doesn't help either. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 01:48 PM |
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Yeah, me and Eisenhower. |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:51 PM |
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Eisenhower you're not. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 01:51 PM |
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Most thinking people realize that the mic is still FACT, even more so... |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:54 PM |
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That's true. However, you're convoluting issues and no one is "making excuses." |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 02:01 PM |
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I'm not "convoluting issues" - I'm saying plain and clear that the U.S. |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 02:45 PM |
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We don't have verifiable voting because no one is demanding it. |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 08:34 PM |
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You're a hoot - I never said anything like "give up" or "the people are powerless." |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 08:55 PM |
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You sure did--look at your words--you're defeated before you begin. |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 09:13 PM |
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If you would read more carefully, instead of endlessly preaching... |
polichick |
Nov-06-11 05:14 AM |
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Well,I'm not "endlessly preaching," but whatever. Back your truck up if you'd like. |
MADem |
Nov-06-11 01:53 PM |
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+1000! |
Walk away |
Nov-06-11 10:34 AM |
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Wow, just wow. Usually I have to go on a neo-con site |
SomethingFishy |
Nov-06-11 01:42 PM |
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Learn to read, please before you falsely accuse people of defending anything. |
MADem |
Nov-06-11 01:57 PM |
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This little outpost wasn't built with the permission of either country's people... |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:11 PM |
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If they want us gone, we are outta there. And the present government DOES |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 01:25 PM |
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Who are you kidding? This gov't does not serve "We, the People." |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:27 PM |
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If you don't vote, you can't gripe. If you don't work for YOUR candidates at the |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 01:39 PM |
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Well, I've never missed a vote and have worked my ass off for Dem candidates... |
polichick |
Nov-05-11 01:43 PM |
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Then you, PERSONALLY, are not part of the problem. But a large percentage of |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 01:53 PM |
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nice to hear we are wanted in afghanistan and pakistan. didnt know that nt |
msongs |
Nov-05-11 01:27 PM |
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No one can possibly be so obtuse. |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 01:50 PM |
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stay charming |
U4ikLefty |
Nov-05-11 08:58 PM |
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Likewise. nt |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 10:23 PM |
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We installed the governments. Isn't that the issue? nt |
Walk away |
Nov-05-11 08:50 PM |
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We didn't do such a hot job--you think we would have chosen the guy now running Iraq if we had the |
MADem |
Nov-05-11 10:37 PM |
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Nov-06-11 09:28 AM |
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First off, not all Dems keep losing. Second, what the hell does the 60's and SDS |
county worker |
Nov-05-11 12:44 PM |
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It's what the head of our local Democrats said. |
Archae |
Nov-05-11 12:46 PM |
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Like I said, we can't make things worse then they are. Next time say something better. |
county worker |
Nov-05-11 12:48 PM |
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Sounds to me like Lorenz is a DINO. Need help outing him? |
Scuba |
Nov-05-11 12:56 PM |
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Your OP does not contain one single actual quote from him |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 06:26 AM |
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He's not the head of your local Party, according to their website |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 06:37 AM |
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Kicked, recced, still at zero. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 12:45 PM |
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Post his essay |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-05-11 12:46 PM |
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Same here. |
Rex |
Nov-05-11 12:49 PM |
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I'd like to, but I can't find it online. |
Archae |
Nov-05-11 12:52 PM |
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Okay then, I will take your word on it. |
Rex |
Nov-05-11 12:57 PM |
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Don't do that, Lorenz does not even hold the position claimed |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 06:44 AM |
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I found out online that the Chairman of the Sheboygan Party is |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 07:03 AM |
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It is still possible to qutoe his words from the paper... |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 07:28 AM |
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Thumbs up |
Cerebral Assassin |
Nov-05-11 12:47 PM |
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There is a difference between expaining why behavior happens |
libinnyandia |
Nov-05-11 12:52 PM |
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Most Democrats disagree with Lorenz |
MannyGoldstein |
Nov-05-11 01:01 PM |
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Trying to understand why they do what they do is not inconsistent |
OrwellwasRight |
Nov-06-11 05:31 PM |
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Then let's look at more of the picture |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-05-11 01:24 PM |
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fingers are in the ears and they go 'LALALALA" |
newspeak |
Nov-05-11 02:01 PM |
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Why would he do that now? |
EC |
Nov-05-11 01:28 PM |
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I Agree That This Kind of Sentiment Does Not Go Over Well |
On the Road |
Nov-05-11 01:39 PM |
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But it is present heavily in a certain fraction of the left. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 01:44 PM |
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Leftists just lack the gene for jingoism.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-05-11 01:46 PM |
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Quite the contrary. |
TheWraith |
Nov-05-11 01:51 PM |
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Well, if you subscribe to the "black=white" theory I suppose it does.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-05-11 03:16 PM |
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Well, Those Two Examples I Agree With You On |
On the Road |
Nov-05-11 05:00 PM |
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Somebody |
Anatos |
Nov-05-11 01:56 PM |
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Terror IS irrational. Terrorists are mad dogs. There is only one way to deal with them. nt |
bluestate10 |
Nov-05-11 11:03 PM |
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Then deal with your goverment. |
RegieRocker |
Nov-06-11 09:29 AM |
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Sounds like he's buddies with Ward "Little Eichmanns" Churchill. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-05-11 01:57 PM |
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Bin laden was many things but a "fascist" he most assuredly was not. You might |
coalition_unwilling |
Nov-05-11 02:03 PM |
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of course Bin Laden and al Qaeda are pure evil. But does ANYONE seriously believe that if the U.S. |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-05-11 02:08 PM |
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+1000 |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-05-11 03:39 PM |
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That just about sums it up for me. |
Walk away |
Nov-06-11 10:41 AM |
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Rec, but your OP is going to have some rough sailing here: "yeah, but..but...but...but" |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-05-11 09:07 PM |
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The problem is persistently confusing "America" with the 1% |
eridani |
Nov-05-11 10:07 PM |
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Did you put on your flame retardant underwear before you wrote your OP? |
bluestate10 |
Nov-05-11 10:18 PM |
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Dead right? Lorenz is not the Chair of that local Party... |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 06:56 AM |
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Do you deny the Imperialist charge? |
donheld |
Nov-06-11 01:10 AM |
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If you don't believe that they hate us for our freedoms then your are just a dirty fucking hippie.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-06-11 05:20 AM |
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They hate us because we are killing them and supressing their freedoms. |
RegieRocker |
Nov-06-11 09:27 AM |
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Nov-06-11 05:51 AM |
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one of the most successful corporatist history edits concerns the marginalization of "movement" |
datasuspect |
Nov-06-11 05:57 AM |
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He is not the head of your local Party according to them. |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 06:40 AM |
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Nov-06-11 06:54 AM |
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The OP usues a lexicon that is reactionary |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-06-11 07:01 AM |
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+1 |
xchrom |
Nov-06-11 07:10 AM |
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Nov-06-11 07:43 AM |
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can you please copy and paste or quote in full the offensive remarks Mr. Tim Lorenz actually said? |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-06-11 07:51 AM |
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I just saw proof republicans don't have even the slightest clue. |
RegieRocker |
Nov-06-11 09:25 AM |
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If we are in other people's business then you can bet... |
Walk away |
Nov-06-11 10:52 AM |
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it's not just oil but it is the big one. |
RegieRocker |
Nov-06-11 11:45 AM |
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Sorry, but American imperialism in the Middle East was/is very real. |
marmar |
Nov-06-11 10:41 AM |
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You don't need to apologize for the truth about this subject, ever. |
RegieRocker |
Nov-06-11 11:47 AM |
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I find your pursuit of a false worldview for political gain to be ultimately self defeating |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-06-11 02:19 PM |
#105 |
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