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rjj621 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:32 PM
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38. Well said and thought provoking
I particularly liked the carpet/floor comparison.

Still, while most things can be traced back to the parents, I honestly believe some kids are just fucked up from the beginning. Some are chemical imbalances, some are other disorders and some are just fucked up. You can't blame every problem child (or now problem adult) actions on their parents. Some yes, hell I would even consider most yes but not all. I hate hearing all that psychobabble crap on news and tv. Too much time in this country is spent by too many of blaming someone else for everything. I got spanked, mostly because I was a shit as a kid and worse as a teenager, partially my parents are to blame (as we all are somewhat as parents) but mostly it was me.

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  -Do you believe corporal punishment by parents is appropriate for children? Renew Deal  Nov-03-11 01:21 PM   #0 
  - Glad to be the first in line to say no.  county worker   Nov-03-11 01:23 PM   #1 
  - Your typo is somehow...apropo.  ret5hd   Nov-03-11 01:43 PM   #6 
     - I had to fix it  county worker   Nov-03-11 01:55 PM   #14 
  - What a sad fucking world we live in.  HughBeaumont   Nov-03-11 01:28 PM   #2 
  - Self delete  pintobean   Nov-03-11 01:47 PM   #8 
  - I was talking about the 62% Yes on the CNN Poll.  HughBeaumont   Nov-03-11 02:09 PM   #23 
  - I mean, I KNOW our board is smart.  HughBeaumont   Nov-03-11 03:23 PM   #35 
  - +1  redqueen   Nov-03-11 05:47 PM   #65 
  - Depends on how you define it, really.  MineralMan   Nov-03-11 01:33 PM   #3 
  - not so black and white for me, so i cant vote. and no, i do not hit my kids to discipline them. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-11 01:34 PM   #4 
  - Many of us will be surprised by how recently this was a school practice  HereSince1628   Nov-03-11 01:36 PM   #5 
  - Also varies by district -  TBF   Nov-03-11 05:02 PM   #56 
  - there are schools that STILL do this!  mzteris   Nov-03-11 07:13 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-03-11 01:45 PM   #7 
  - +1  uponit7771   Nov-03-11 02:22 PM   #27 
  - Everything that was done to you that you described would be arrestable actions  Luminous Animal   Nov-03-11 05:43 PM   #62 
  - Didn't carry over, huh? Sounds like it did to me.  nolabear   Nov-03-11 05:55 PM   #70 
     - +1  patrick t. cakes   Nov-03-11 06:01 PM   #73 
     - LOL, you aren't kidding  laundry_queen   Nov-03-11 06:58 PM   #81 
     - agreed. n/t  mzteris   Nov-03-11 07:15 PM   #85 
  - Where is the FUCK NO! option?  NNN0LHI   Nov-03-11 01:48 PM   #9 
  - Wondering the same....  abelenkpe   Nov-03-11 02:05 PM   #19 
     - EXACTLY! The dynamics are more than just you getting hit  laundry_queen   Nov-03-11 07:08 PM   #82 
  - No, No ... and Yes (sort of) .... I can explain ...  JoePhilly   Nov-03-11 01:50 PM   #10 
  - This is well and generously said.  Brickbat   Nov-03-11 01:51 PM   #12 
  - Thanks much!  JoePhilly   Nov-03-11 01:55 PM   #15 
  - Well Said  NeedleCast   Nov-03-11 02:08 PM   #22 
  - I was just going to say  w8liftinglady   Nov-03-11 02:36 PM   #31 
  - I've never struck my child  notadmblnd   Nov-03-11 03:18 PM   #33 
  - I have 3 ... and only one ever got a "pop".  JoePhilly   Nov-03-11 03:33 PM   #39 
     - NO, it'sis not all black and white, but for the most part I'm the one responsible for what my child  notadmblnd   Nov-03-11 03:58 PM   #46 
     - Love the paint can story.  JoePhilly   Nov-03-11 04:32 PM   #52 
        - My son was above change. Had no use for it. It was $$$ that lit up his eyes  notadmblnd   Nov-03-11 06:46 PM   #79 
     - A little pop on a Pamper makes a LOT of noise and gets the kid's attention.  Still Blue in PDX   Nov-03-11 04:56 PM   #54 
        - I'm a non parent.  MedicalAdmin   Nov-03-11 05:36 PM   #59 
        - It's a wonder that I managed to keep my toddler and two others I watched alive without having  Luminous Animal   Nov-03-11 05:53 PM   #67 
        - never did that to my toddler  Bill McBlueState   Nov-03-11 05:54 PM   #68 
        - leashes are not abuse.  mzteris   Nov-03-11 07:20 PM   #86 
  - Well said and thought provoking  rjj621   Nov-03-11 03:32 PM   #38 
  - Thanks ...  JoePhilly   Nov-03-11 03:59 PM   #47 
  - beating a kid for a chemical imbalance  mzteris   Nov-03-11 07:23 PM   #87 
     - No it doesn't make sense  rjj621   Nov-04-11 06:27 AM   #95 
     - Seems the person we are responding to can't read.  JoePhilly   Nov-04-11 04:09 PM   #97 
     - Did you not read this part of my post, or ... are you just stupid ...  JoePhilly   Nov-04-11 04:07 PM   #96 
  - Absolutely well said.  laundry_queen   Nov-03-11 07:13 PM   #84 
  - No, it's not. In the heat of the moment, it shows a lack of control. If the parent cools down and  Brickbat   Nov-03-11 01:50 PM   #11 
  - Sometimes, but not like in that video; something that doesn't hurt, but  closeupready   Nov-03-11 01:53 PM   #13 
  - Wonder what the results would be if CNN asked if it was appropriate for a husband to smack his wife?  NNN0LHI   Nov-03-11 02:01 PM   #16 
  - +1000 nt  abelenkpe   Nov-03-11 02:03 PM   #17 
  - Your post makes me think that inside of all too many people ....  MedicalAdmin   Nov-03-11 05:54 PM   #69 
  - Thank you n/t  War Horse   Nov-03-11 06:08 PM   #77 
  - Or similarly . . .  HughBeaumont   Nov-03-11 09:57 PM   #92 
  - In a perfect world, no.  Shandris   Nov-03-11 02:04 PM   #18 
  - Corporal punishment needs to be defined  NeedleCast   Nov-03-11 02:05 PM   #20 
  - Please don't let your not being a parent be a factor in recognizing child abuse  HereSince1628   Nov-03-11 03:37 PM   #41 
  - Please vote on the cnn poll too  abelenkpe   Nov-03-11 02:07 PM   #21 
  - OMG  mzteris   Nov-03-11 07:27 PM   #88 
  - It's easy for me to say no now that my kids are grown.  Still Blue in PDX   Nov-03-11 02:09 PM   #24 
  - The logic you describe is that of an older child ... not of a younger one.  JoePhilly   Nov-03-11 02:22 PM   #28 
     - I must have been old for my years, then, because my memories are from before I started school.  Still Blue in PDX   Nov-03-11 04:48 PM   #53 
        - times change  mzteris   Nov-03-11 07:31 PM   #91 
        - My parents differed on this ... my father preferred corpral punishments ...  JoePhilly   Nov-04-11 04:24 PM   #98 
  - The geography of corporal punishment in red states is...SO FRENCH!?  HereSince1628   Nov-03-11 02:17 PM   #25 
  - If parents are allowed to beat up on kids then cops should be allowed to beat up on parents.  Speck Tater   Nov-03-11 02:20 PM   #26 
  - Complicated. I was spanked and had the belt a few times, But it was done with a lot of self control.  phleshdef   Nov-03-11 02:27 PM   #29 
  - No. But my parents sure did (nt)  Nye Bevan   Nov-03-11 02:32 PM   #30 
  - As a rule, no  hifiguy   Nov-03-11 02:38 PM   #32 
  - Hell, no. Physical abuse of children creates sociopaths. nt  BlueIris   Nov-03-11 03:20 PM   #34 
  - I can understand a fear of sociopaths...but it's bigger than that  HereSince1628   Nov-03-11 04:09 PM   #49 
  - Until the past couple of generations,  kiva   Nov-03-11 04:32 PM   #51 
     - That's because there were other authoritarian controls in place  laundry_queen   Nov-03-11 07:28 PM   #89 
  - I'm amazed at the number of people who can't tell the difference between a spanking and abuse. NT  Llewlladdwr   Nov-03-11 03:24 PM   #36 
  - Some of us don't see a distinction. YMMV. nt  TBF   Nov-03-11 05:23 PM   #57 
  - Don't you need to hit someone to spank them?  Luminous Animal   Nov-03-11 05:46 PM   #64 
  - I don't practice it nor believe in it  Proud Liberal Dem   Nov-03-11 03:31 PM   #37 
  - I don't know - but spanking is certainly a lot less abusive and destructive way to correct childhood  Douglas Carpenter   Nov-03-11 03:33 PM   #40 
  - No.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-03-11 03:38 PM   #42 
  - My parents went after me for LEAVING THE HOUSE.  Manifestor_of_Light   Nov-03-11 03:43 PM   #43 
  - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Liberal_in_LA   Nov-03-11 03:44 PM   #44 
  - Depends.  Glassunion   Nov-03-11 03:51 PM   #45 
  - Just to be clear, what that judge did was not corporal punishment.  yellowcanine   Nov-03-11 04:04 PM   #48 
  - I whacked mine with a bag of lunchmeat once...  tinkerbell41   Nov-03-11 04:13 PM   #50 
  - My view - if it is not ok to go around punching folks in the street -  TBF   Nov-03-11 04:59 PM   #55 
  - Depands. A swat on the ass is different than a prologed beating.  MrSlayer   Nov-03-11 05:30 PM   #58 
  - Absolutely NO and neither did my parents. nt  Raine   Nov-03-11 05:40 PM   #60 
  - I vote for a swat on the pants v. verbal abuse & degradation any day.  Laluchacontinua   Nov-03-11 05:43 PM   #61 
  - A good parent would do neither.  Luminous Animal   Nov-03-11 05:48 PM   #66 
  - This mother of three votes absolutely not!  etherealtruth   Nov-03-11 05:45 PM   #63 
  - No.  YellowRubberDuckie   Nov-03-11 05:56 PM   #71 
  - Spanking is not only abusive, it doesn't work  Taverner   Nov-03-11 05:58 PM   #72 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-03-11 06:03 PM   #74 
  - I answered No. But I wonder if there is a very  Ilsa   Nov-03-11 06:04 PM   #75 
  - Hell no!  War Horse   Nov-03-11 06:05 PM   #76 
  - Those 7 minutes on video basically summed up my childhood  mentalsolstice   Nov-03-11 06:26 PM   #78 
  - Good God....No.  Worship Money   Nov-03-11 06:54 PM   #80 
  - Generally no, but not absolutely. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Nov-03-11 07:29 PM   #90 
  - My answer would be, "Sometimes." Not the correct answer, I know.  astral   Nov-03-11 10:59 PM   #93 
  - Yes  Cerebral Assassin   Nov-04-11 05:52 AM   #94 
  - Oh yeah.. Beat em' and if that doesn't work beat them harder  SomethingFishy   Nov-04-11 04:30 PM   #99 
  - Louis CK on hitting kids  BOG PERSON   Nov-04-11 04:41 PM   #100 

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