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Thu Nov-03-11 02:17 PM
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| 25. The geography of corporal punishment in red states is...SO FRENCH!? |
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First...all of this data is not perfectly up to date... First a cartogram showing average voting for republicans (red), the conservative party, and democrats (blue) the liberal party in the last 4 general elections. Sorry it IS a bit harder to see than a Mercator projection, but you'll probably recognize the states by looking at the second map...  In the following maps the key is green-banned in schools and homes, blue-banned in schools, red--allowed in schools and home   |
| -Do you believe corporal punishment by parents is appropriate for children? |
Renew Deal |
Nov-03-11 01:21 PM |
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Glad to be the first in line to say no. |
county worker |
Nov-03-11 01:23 PM |
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Your typo is somehow...apropo. |
ret5hd |
Nov-03-11 01:43 PM |
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I had to fix it |
county worker |
Nov-03-11 01:55 PM |
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What a sad fucking world we live in. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-03-11 01:28 PM |
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Self delete |
pintobean |
Nov-03-11 01:47 PM |
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I was talking about the 62% Yes on the CNN Poll. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-03-11 02:09 PM |
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I mean, I KNOW our board is smart. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-03-11 03:23 PM |
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+1 |
redqueen |
Nov-03-11 05:47 PM |
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Depends on how you define it, really. |
MineralMan |
Nov-03-11 01:33 PM |
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not so black and white for me, so i cant vote. and no, i do not hit my kids to discipline them. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-11 01:34 PM |
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Many of us will be surprised by how recently this was a school practice |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-03-11 01:36 PM |
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Also varies by district - |
TBF |
Nov-03-11 05:02 PM |
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there are schools that STILL do this! |
mzteris |
Nov-03-11 07:13 PM |
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Nov-03-11 01:45 PM |
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+1 |
uponit7771 |
Nov-03-11 02:22 PM |
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Everything that was done to you that you described would be arrestable actions |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-03-11 05:43 PM |
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Didn't carry over, huh? Sounds like it did to me. |
nolabear |
Nov-03-11 05:55 PM |
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+1 |
patrick t. cakes |
Nov-03-11 06:01 PM |
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LOL, you aren't kidding |
laundry_queen |
Nov-03-11 06:58 PM |
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agreed. n/t |
mzteris |
Nov-03-11 07:15 PM |
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Where is the FUCK NO! option? |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-03-11 01:48 PM |
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Wondering the same.... |
abelenkpe |
Nov-03-11 02:05 PM |
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EXACTLY! The dynamics are more than just you getting hit |
laundry_queen |
Nov-03-11 07:08 PM |
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No, No ... and Yes (sort of) .... I can explain ... |
JoePhilly |
Nov-03-11 01:50 PM |
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This is well and generously said. |
Brickbat |
Nov-03-11 01:51 PM |
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Thanks much! |
JoePhilly |
Nov-03-11 01:55 PM |
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Well Said |
NeedleCast |
Nov-03-11 02:08 PM |
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I was just going to say |
w8liftinglady |
Nov-03-11 02:36 PM |
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I've never struck my child |
notadmblnd |
Nov-03-11 03:18 PM |
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I have 3 ... and only one ever got a "pop". |
JoePhilly |
Nov-03-11 03:33 PM |
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NO, it'sis not all black and white, but for the most part I'm the one responsible for what my child |
notadmblnd |
Nov-03-11 03:58 PM |
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Love the paint can story. |
JoePhilly |
Nov-03-11 04:32 PM |
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My son was above change. Had no use for it. It was $$$ that lit up his eyes |
notadmblnd |
Nov-03-11 06:46 PM |
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A little pop on a Pamper makes a LOT of noise and gets the kid's attention. |
Still Blue in PDX |
Nov-03-11 04:56 PM |
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I'm a non parent. |
MedicalAdmin |
Nov-03-11 05:36 PM |
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It's a wonder that I managed to keep my toddler and two others I watched alive without having |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-03-11 05:53 PM |
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never did that to my toddler |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-03-11 05:54 PM |
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leashes are not abuse. |
mzteris |
Nov-03-11 07:20 PM |
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Well said and thought provoking |
rjj621 |
Nov-03-11 03:32 PM |
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Thanks ... |
JoePhilly |
Nov-03-11 03:59 PM |
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beating a kid for a chemical imbalance |
mzteris |
Nov-03-11 07:23 PM |
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No it doesn't make sense |
rjj621 |
Nov-04-11 06:27 AM |
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Seems the person we are responding to can't read. |
JoePhilly |
Nov-04-11 04:09 PM |
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Did you not read this part of my post, or ... are you just stupid ... |
JoePhilly |
Nov-04-11 04:07 PM |
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Absolutely well said. |
laundry_queen |
Nov-03-11 07:13 PM |
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No, it's not. In the heat of the moment, it shows a lack of control. If the parent cools down and |
Brickbat |
Nov-03-11 01:50 PM |
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Sometimes, but not like in that video; something that doesn't hurt, but |
closeupready |
Nov-03-11 01:53 PM |
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Wonder what the results would be if CNN asked if it was appropriate for a husband to smack his wife? |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-03-11 02:01 PM |
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+1000 nt |
abelenkpe |
Nov-03-11 02:03 PM |
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Your post makes me think that inside of all too many people .... |
MedicalAdmin |
Nov-03-11 05:54 PM |
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Thank you n/t |
War Horse |
Nov-03-11 06:08 PM |
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Or similarly . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-03-11 09:57 PM |
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In a perfect world, no. |
Shandris |
Nov-03-11 02:04 PM |
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Corporal punishment needs to be defined |
NeedleCast |
Nov-03-11 02:05 PM |
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Please don't let your not being a parent be a factor in recognizing child abuse |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-03-11 03:37 PM |
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Please vote on the cnn poll too |
abelenkpe |
Nov-03-11 02:07 PM |
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OMG |
mzteris |
Nov-03-11 07:27 PM |
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It's easy for me to say no now that my kids are grown. |
Still Blue in PDX |
Nov-03-11 02:09 PM |
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The logic you describe is that of an older child ... not of a younger one. |
JoePhilly |
Nov-03-11 02:22 PM |
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I must have been old for my years, then, because my memories are from before I started school. |
Still Blue in PDX |
Nov-03-11 04:48 PM |
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times change |
mzteris |
Nov-03-11 07:31 PM |
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My parents differed on this ... my father preferred corpral punishments ... |
JoePhilly |
Nov-04-11 04:24 PM |
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The geography of corporal punishment in red states is...SO FRENCH!? |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-03-11 02:17 PM |
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If parents are allowed to beat up on kids then cops should be allowed to beat up on parents. |
Speck Tater |
Nov-03-11 02:20 PM |
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Complicated. I was spanked and had the belt a few times, But it was done with a lot of self control. |
phleshdef |
Nov-03-11 02:27 PM |
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No. But my parents sure did (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Nov-03-11 02:32 PM |
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As a rule, no |
hifiguy |
Nov-03-11 02:38 PM |
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Hell, no. Physical abuse of children creates sociopaths. nt |
BlueIris |
Nov-03-11 03:20 PM |
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I can understand a fear of sociopaths...but it's bigger than that |
HereSince1628 |
Nov-03-11 04:09 PM |
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Until the past couple of generations, |
kiva |
Nov-03-11 04:32 PM |
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That's because there were other authoritarian controls in place |
laundry_queen |
Nov-03-11 07:28 PM |
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I'm amazed at the number of people who can't tell the difference between a spanking and abuse. NT |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-03-11 03:24 PM |
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Some of us don't see a distinction. YMMV. nt |
TBF |
Nov-03-11 05:23 PM |
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Don't you need to hit someone to spank them? |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-03-11 05:46 PM |
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I don't practice it nor believe in it |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Nov-03-11 03:31 PM |
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I don't know - but spanking is certainly a lot less abusive and destructive way to correct childhood |
Douglas Carpenter |
Nov-03-11 03:33 PM |
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No. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-03-11 03:38 PM |
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My parents went after me for LEAVING THE HOUSE. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Nov-03-11 03:43 PM |
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Liberal_in_LA |
Nov-03-11 03:44 PM |
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Depends. |
Glassunion |
Nov-03-11 03:51 PM |
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Just to be clear, what that judge did was not corporal punishment. |
yellowcanine |
Nov-03-11 04:04 PM |
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I whacked mine with a bag of lunchmeat once... |
tinkerbell41 |
Nov-03-11 04:13 PM |
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My view - if it is not ok to go around punching folks in the street - |
TBF |
Nov-03-11 04:59 PM |
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Depands. A swat on the ass is different than a prologed beating. |
MrSlayer |
Nov-03-11 05:30 PM |
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Absolutely NO and neither did my parents. nt |
Raine |
Nov-03-11 05:40 PM |
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I vote for a swat on the pants v. verbal abuse & degradation any day. |
Laluchacontinua |
Nov-03-11 05:43 PM |
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A good parent would do neither. |
Luminous Animal |
Nov-03-11 05:48 PM |
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This mother of three votes absolutely not! |
etherealtruth |
Nov-03-11 05:45 PM |
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No. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Nov-03-11 05:56 PM |
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Spanking is not only abusive, it doesn't work |
Taverner |
Nov-03-11 05:58 PM |
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Nov-03-11 06:03 PM |
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I answered No. But I wonder if there is a very |
Ilsa |
Nov-03-11 06:04 PM |
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Hell no! |
War Horse |
Nov-03-11 06:05 PM |
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Those 7 minutes on video basically summed up my childhood |
mentalsolstice |
Nov-03-11 06:26 PM |
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Good God....No. |
Worship Money |
Nov-03-11 06:54 PM |
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Generally no, but not absolutely. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-03-11 07:29 PM |
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My answer would be, "Sometimes." Not the correct answer, I know. |
astral |
Nov-03-11 10:59 PM |
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Yes |
Cerebral Assassin |
Nov-04-11 05:52 AM |
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Oh yeah.. Beat em' and if that doesn't work beat them harder |
SomethingFishy |
Nov-04-11 04:30 PM |
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Louis CK on hitting kids |
BOG PERSON |
Nov-04-11 04:41 PM |
#100 |
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