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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 03:37 PM
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38. Can't just blame the retubbies for this one.
There were enough democrats to pass public option even but some of them were bribed to block it.
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  -The solution to the nations health care crisis is staring everyone in the face. Better Believe It  Nov-03-11 01:01 PM   #0 
  - Simple answer why we won't:  HughBeaumont   Nov-03-11 01:06 PM   #1 
  - And they've convinced a HUGE number of people that socialism is evil. That sickens me as much  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-03-11 01:11 PM   #3 
  - Socialism = evil: unfettered and wholly corrupted capitalism nee fascism=  indepat   Nov-03-11 07:20 PM   #44 
  - I would rather have Socialism than Fascism  MODem75   Nov-04-11 01:36 PM   #96 
     - In 21st-century America, socialism is bad, very bbbad; fascism, good, very  indepat   Nov-04-11 04:06 PM   #98 
  - thankfully  SemperEadem   Nov-04-11 08:20 AM   #64 
  - You're wrong, absolutely wrong  Tansy_Gold   Nov-04-11 10:07 AM   #71 
     - I dont' believe I am.  SemperEadem   Nov-04-11 12:45 PM   #86 
  - The real quandary is why people who are suffering because of our health care support it  liberal N proud   Nov-04-11 11:24 AM   #79 
  - Unless WE stop doing business as usual and vote out their puppets  Lorien   Nov-03-11 08:37 PM   #49 
  - Well, yeah, we have a choice.  HughBeaumont   Nov-03-11 09:52 PM   #50 
  - I think OWS movement is changing that.  SemperEadem   Nov-04-11 08:22 AM   #65 
  - What Lorien said /\ It is time to quit settling for the "lesser of two evils"  Vincardog   Nov-04-11 01:06 PM   #88 
  - Many years ago I remember hearing that there were companies coming out for single payer,  cui bono   Nov-04-11 07:23 AM   #60 
     - See, you know how people tell us . . .  HughBeaumont   Nov-04-11 10:49 AM   #75 
  - And yet they weren't "in the room"  zipplewrath   Nov-03-11 01:10 PM   #2 
  - Yep. Gotta love that kind of progressivism. *sigh*  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-03-11 01:12 PM   #4 
     - And transparency (he denied it until he could no longer). *sigh*  cui bono   Nov-04-11 07:12 AM   #55 
  - Should have started with Medicare for All in the first place. It's coming, b/c there is no choice.  DirkGently   Nov-03-11 01:16 PM   #5 
  - It's coming? I'd really love to believe that, but cuts to Medicare and  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-03-11 02:56 PM   #26 
     - Well, a lot of poor & middle-class people may have to die first.  DirkGently   Nov-03-11 03:04 PM   #29 
  - It sounds nice, but what other advanced countries have done for decades  TE Lawrence   Nov-03-11 01:17 PM   #6 
  - What a crock of shit  arcane1   Nov-03-11 01:20 PM   #8 
  - Better medical care for our people bankrupts us..  Fumesucker   Nov-03-11 01:23 PM   #10 
  - Bomb dropping of late has surely been a stupid policy.  TE Lawrence   Nov-03-11 01:56 PM   #18 
     - You're going to get stupid policies no matter what you do..  Fumesucker   Nov-03-11 02:11 PM   #21 
     - So policies that benefit working class people and the elderly are stupid.  Better Believe It   Nov-03-11 07:21 PM   #45 
  - LOL  Mimosa   Nov-03-11 01:23 PM   #11 
  - Preventative care can be an 81mg aspirin per day.  TE Lawrence   Nov-03-11 02:02 PM   #20 
     - People anywhere can buy their own aspirin  Mimosa   Nov-03-11 02:16 PM   #22 
     - We have a very small number of anti-NHS agitators in the UK.  sibelian   Nov-03-11 03:28 PM   #35 
     - I've been to the UK and patronized their pharmacies  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-03-11 03:10 PM   #31 
     - ...  sibelian   Nov-03-11 03:26 PM   #34 
     - What? Prove that. n/t  cui bono   Nov-04-11 07:16 AM   #57 
     - he can't... he's talking out of his ass  SemperEadem   Nov-04-11 08:28 AM   #67 
     - lol  barbtries   Nov-04-11 07:28 AM   #61 
     - got a link to back that up?  SemperEadem   Nov-04-11 08:25 AM   #66 
  - Absolute nonsense  tkmorris   Nov-03-11 01:29 PM   #13 
  - That is why we spend double per capita than Canada  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-03-11 01:32 PM   #14 
  - That's nutty.  denverbill   Nov-03-11 01:37 PM   #15 
  - I work for the UK National Health Service.  sibelian   Nov-03-11 01:51 PM   #17 
  - Just curious...  moondust   Nov-03-11 07:23 PM   #46 
     - ???  sibelian   Nov-04-11 04:50 AM   #54 
        - Sorry.  moondust   Nov-04-11 12:33 PM   #85 
           - I just don't see it  Sgent   Nov-04-11 01:07 PM   #89 
           - These people exist but are VERY few in number.  sibelian   Nov-05-11 10:28 AM   #103 
  - it's not basic benefit to citizens that is bankrupting EU, rather the global financial cartels  librechik   Nov-03-11 01:59 PM   #19 
  - ^ True. ^ n/t  Mimosa   Nov-03-11 02:17 PM   #23 
  - Those other countries are not bankrupt because of social programs.  jwirr   Nov-03-11 02:26 PM   #24 
  - If cheaper healthcare is bankrupting Europe, how is more expensive healthcare helping us???  Dems2002   Nov-03-11 02:57 PM   #27 
  - I completely agree with you. Let's start turning the interstate system into gravel  DisgustipatedinCA   Nov-03-11 03:06 PM   #30 
  - Have you ever stopped to notice ...  area51   Nov-03-11 04:27 PM   #41 
  - +1000.  HughBeaumont   Nov-04-11 09:22 AM   #70 
  - It worked out fine until the capitalists were deregulated.  Better Believe It   Nov-03-11 07:18 PM   #43 
  - no, the health care is not bankrupting the uk, or france  reggie the dog   Nov-04-11 04:36 AM   #53 
  - I don't think that is correct. Please provide documentation to support your claim.  cui bono   Nov-04-11 07:17 AM   #58 
  - BULLSHIT!  irislake   Nov-04-11 08:08 AM   #63 
  - Old TE, grand as he was in WW1, was a bit of a fascist politically  bengalherder   Nov-04-11 10:29 AM   #73 
  - deleted  ThomThom   Nov-04-11 11:03 AM   #76 
  - An enormous lie.  JackRiddler   Nov-04-11 11:48 AM   #80 
  - +1, right on the money, so to speak  txlibdem   Nov-04-11 04:28 PM   #99 
  - Nonsense.  Deep13   Nov-04-11 01:13 PM   #91 
  - Nonsense -- you're simply talking about the RW starving the system.. and whether starving education.  defendandprotect   Nov-04-11 01:17 PM   #93 
  - ... and think we're all pretty clear on who has BAILED OUT whom ... !!!  defendandprotect   Nov-04-11 01:21 PM   #94 
  - The problem is government-phobia.  Donald Ian Rankin   Nov-04-11 01:31 PM   #95 
  - The insurance industry has grown too big to fail...  kentuck   Nov-03-11 01:18 PM   #7 
  - Meanwhile, 38,000 people a year die from lack of insurance.  truedelphi   Nov-03-11 02:50 PM   #25 
  - Kicking thread.  area51   Nov-04-11 02:35 AM   #52 
  - Too big to regulate as well.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-03-11 03:36 PM   #37 
  - Many companies would hire more people if they didn't have to provide health coverage  Mimosa   Nov-03-11 01:22 PM   #9 
  - And they wouldn't ask employees about their bowel movements and sex life. n/t  cui bono   Nov-04-11 07:22 AM   #59 
  - A sad fact -  RC   Nov-03-11 01:26 PM   #12 
  - Really admire the way you juxtaposed the Constitution with the OP  truedelphi   Nov-04-11 12:40 AM   #51 
  - Get the fucken Republicants out of office.  undeterred   Nov-03-11 01:39 PM   #16 
  - Can't just blame the retubbies for this one.  Shagbark Hickory   Nov-03-11 03:37 PM   #38 
  - Because in many cases Democratic politicians enable the Republicans to "filibuster" in the Senate  Better Believe It   Nov-03-11 07:24 PM   #47 
     - must. defend. republicans.  Bobbie Jo   Nov-04-11 07:44 AM   #62 
        - must.. convince.. DUers to not vote dem...  dionysus   Nov-04-11 08:35 AM   #69 
           - I don't think it is an R or a D thing. I prefer D because they  dotymed   Nov-04-11 11:09 AM   #77 
  - That's a wonderfully ambiguous subject line, so it gets an automatic Rec!  slackmaster   Nov-03-11 02:57 PM   #28 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Nov-03-11 03:12 PM   #32 
  - Has Peter O'Toole left the building?  CTyankee   Nov-03-11 03:20 PM   #33 
  - T'would appear so for the time being  sibelian   Nov-03-11 03:32 PM   #36 
     - Pity. He was here only so briefly...  CTyankee   Nov-03-11 06:52 PM   #42 
  - That is the ONE FACT that the Democratic Party "Leadership"...  bvar22   Nov-03-11 04:06 PM   #39 
  - Imagine how cool it would be for a Democratic candidate to campaign on that pledge?  Octafish   Nov-03-11 04:12 PM   #40 
  - K&R n/t  louslobbs   Nov-03-11 07:25 PM   #48 
  - wrong place  cui bono   Nov-04-11 07:14 AM   #56 
  - TN had a good system for a while  Ozagnaria   Nov-04-11 08:29 AM   #68 
  - But TORT reform will fix EVERYTHING  DLine   Nov-04-11 10:27 AM   #72 
  - Actually, it's all a distraction  tcaudilllg   Nov-04-11 10:40 AM   #74 
  - How do we get a Congress that will vote for it? The 1% own not only the Congress  valerief   Nov-04-11 11:20 AM   #78 
  - Multi-step process. First step is over turning Citizen's United.  harun   Nov-04-11 12:04 PM   #81 
     - So the SCOTUS owned by the 1% will overturn Citizens United? I want to see that work but I'm not  valerief   Nov-04-11 12:23 PM   #83 
        - SCOTUS won't touch it. It will take other means.  harun   Nov-04-11 04:00 PM   #97 
           - But if Citizens United is overturned, SCOTUS will turn it back. nt  valerief   Nov-04-11 05:32 PM   #100 
              - Not if it is with a Constitutional Amendment.  harun   Nov-05-11 05:05 AM   #102 
  - Without reading everyone's input ...  aggiesal   Nov-04-11 12:22 PM   #82 
  - there is too much money  BigD_95   Nov-04-11 12:29 PM   #84 
  - cost?  Ozagnaria   Nov-04-11 12:59 PM   #87 
  - That's a necessary part of the solution.  Deep13   Nov-04-11 01:09 PM   #90 
  - Think Americans have no problem understanding that -- it's politicians ignoring will of the people !  defendandprotect   Nov-04-11 01:13 PM   #92 
  - I'd like to see a Constitutional amendment  aint_no_life_nowhere   Nov-04-11 05:35 PM   #101 
 

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