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Tue Nov-01-11 04:15 PM
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| 62. And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon |
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Little boy blue and the man on the moon When you comin' home son? I don't know when, but we'll get together then son You know we'll have a good time then
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| -Just why the fuck should someone else you'll never meet own your fucking house in the first place? |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:05 PM |
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You got it by paying money. That is the way it is, unless the House Fairy comes into being. |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-01-11 02:06 PM |
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Money is just paper. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:06 PM |
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Well, I see where we're going with this. I'll just say, when I bought my house, I put down |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-01-11 02:09 PM |
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I might have opted for the chicken piccata and apple pies. |
jtuck004 |
Nov-01-11 02:19 PM |
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LOL--I actually use Giada DeLaurentiis's recipe for the piccata, but cut down on the |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-01-11 02:21 PM |
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I'll have to go look for that. |
jtuck004 |
Nov-01-11 03:57 PM |
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Mmm, roasted squash. Every season has its treats. |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-01-11 04:11 PM |
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Yes, but why should some other dickhead have the power to create money... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:30 PM |
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They don't "create" money, they have other customers who pay loan interest |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-01-11 03:00 PM |
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You obviously have no idea how banking works. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 03:07 PM |
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Well, I guess you've got me there. I don't understand all the intricacies of banking, |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-01-11 03:14 PM |
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You shouldn't have to... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 03:16 PM |
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Well, if it is "just" paper, it should be easy to come by, shouldn't it? nt |
MADem |
Nov-01-11 02:20 PM |
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You're absolutely right... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:37 PM |
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Money is also the standard medium for labor exchange |
dmallind |
Nov-01-11 04:26 PM |
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Makes sense (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Nov-01-11 02:07 PM |
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How's that? |
Courtesy Flush |
Nov-01-11 02:17 PM |
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But someone else can, right? |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:33 PM |
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Seriously? |
Courtesy Flush |
Nov-01-11 02:45 PM |
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No it hasn't. You have a warped perspective on the history of the world. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:49 PM |
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And people like me who have no idea how and no ability to build? |
dmallind |
Nov-01-11 04:30 PM |
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Housing standards have come up, buddy. |
Yo_Mama |
Nov-01-11 04:37 PM |
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houses are not |
MrDiaz |
Nov-01-11 03:45 PM |
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What? |
HappyMe |
Nov-01-11 02:08 PM |
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+1 |
Wait Wut |
Nov-01-11 03:11 PM |
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How are you going to get everyone to give you all the stuff you need to build a house? |
dkf |
Nov-01-11 02:09 PM |
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Let a computer give someone a loan... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:11 PM |
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So where does the money for the loan come from? nt |
Recovered Repug |
Nov-01-11 02:36 PM |
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i like turtles |
piratefish08 |
Nov-01-11 02:09 PM |
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What the fuck are you talking about? |
BeyondGeography |
Nov-01-11 02:14 PM |
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I don't understand what you are saying. |
county worker |
Nov-01-11 02:16 PM |
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Where does the money to build the house come from? |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:31 PM |
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People have to trade their labor or something for the money. It did not grow on a tree. |
county worker |
Nov-01-11 02:41 PM |
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Do the people who create money have to trade their labor for it? |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:46 PM |
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Why don't you answer my question instead of asking me questions? |
county worker |
Nov-01-11 02:49 PM |
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I think that's actually quite obvious. No. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:50 PM |
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Money is a means of exchange and a holder of value. |
county worker |
Nov-01-11 02:50 PM |
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And should the people who create new stones with holes in them... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:51 PM |
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Yes, it is a highly productive job if done right |
Yo_Mama |
Nov-01-11 04:45 PM |
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no always. My house was built in 1929 - paid off years ago |
sammytko |
Nov-01-11 02:43 PM |
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Stop doing that |
Courtesy Flush |
Nov-01-11 02:46 PM |
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I'm trying to get people to think. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:52 PM |
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I suggest that you start by getting yourself to think, then. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-11 03:07 PM |
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Just reading between the lines here.... |
pipi_k |
Nov-01-11 03:47 PM |
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If you want a free house we can always help you put up a shack. |
dkf |
Nov-01-11 02:19 PM |
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I don't think you understand either money or mortgages. NT |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-01-11 02:51 PM |
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Dear, chances are I know more than you do... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:55 PM |
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Then explain to me what money is. NT |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-01-11 02:58 PM |
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Money is a universal good which arises in more complicated civilizations... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 03:04 PM |
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Very good. Except that I create my own money. |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-01-11 03:13 PM |
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True, the value is not created... |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 03:15 PM |
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Again, you're confusing the tokens with the value they represent. |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-01-11 03:27 PM |
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Oh dear... |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-11 03:32 PM |
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And it cuts down on how many exchange rates we have to know. |
Hosnon |
Nov-01-11 03:51 PM |
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Surely you are not as naive as you sound in this post. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-11 02:52 PM |
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Oh joy, a long winded rant that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm talking about. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 02:54 PM |
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You picked a really bizarre way to frame your question then. NT |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-01-11 02:59 PM |
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No. It hasn't always been so. You could gather a group of people |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-11 03:02 PM |
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I suggest, then, that you ask the question directly, rather than |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-11 03:04 PM |
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Actually, I don't think I even said what you said I said. |
originalpckelly |
Nov-01-11 03:05 PM |
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No, I did not assume that you were a dirty commie hippie type. |
MineralMan |
Nov-01-11 03:08 PM |
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Someone is obviously having a bad day... |
RevStPatrick |
Nov-01-11 03:01 PM |
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"your fucking house" |
SoCalDem |
Nov-01-11 03:24 PM |
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That's not entirely correct. |
Llewlladdwr |
Nov-01-11 03:32 PM |
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hence the "..." |
SoCalDem |
Nov-01-11 08:44 PM |
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The economy doesn't have the ability to allocate a house |
Yo_Mama |
Nov-01-11 04:15 PM |
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And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon |
obliviously |
Nov-01-11 04:15 PM |
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Interesting stance, care to loan me $100,000 |
Riftaxe |
Nov-01-11 04:36 PM |
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Well Sherlock ... |
GeorgeGist |
Nov-01-11 10:20 PM |
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Sounds like you are due beer and travel money, and many experiences. nt |
Obamanaut |
Nov-02-11 04:53 AM |
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I agree. We should have a post-scarcity society, like in Star Trek. |
Norrin Radd |
Nov-02-11 05:03 AM |
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