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62. And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin' home son?
I don't know when, but we'll get together then son
You know we'll have a good time then
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  -Just why the fuck should someone else you'll never meet own your fucking house in the first place? originalpckelly  Nov-01-11 02:05 PM   #0 
  - You got it by paying money. That is the way it is, unless the House Fairy comes into being.  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-11 02:06 PM   #1 
  - Money is just paper.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:06 PM   #2 
     - Well, I see where we're going with this. I'll just say, when I bought my house, I put down  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-11 02:09 PM   #7 
     - I might have opted for the chicken piccata and apple pies.  jtuck004   Nov-01-11 02:19 PM   #12 
     - LOL--I actually use Giada DeLaurentiis's recipe for the piccata, but cut down on the  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-11 02:21 PM   #15 
        - I'll have to go look for that.  jtuck004   Nov-01-11 03:57 PM   #59 
           - Mmm, roasted squash. Every season has its treats.  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-11 04:11 PM   #60 
     - Yes, but why should some other dickhead have the power to create money...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:30 PM   #16 
        - They don't "create" money, they have other customers who pay loan interest  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-11 03:00 PM   #38 
           - You obviously have no idea how banking works.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 03:07 PM   #44 
              - Well, I guess you've got me there. I don't understand all the intricacies of banking,  TwilightGardener   Nov-01-11 03:14 PM   #49 
                 - You shouldn't have to...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 03:16 PM   #51 
     - Well, if it is "just" paper, it should be easy to come by, shouldn't it? nt  MADem   Nov-01-11 02:20 PM   #14 
     - You're absolutely right...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:37 PM   #20 
     - Money is also the standard medium for labor exchange  dmallind   Nov-01-11 04:26 PM   #63 
  - Makes sense (nt)  Nye Bevan   Nov-01-11 02:07 PM   #3 
  - How's that?  Courtesy Flush   Nov-01-11 02:17 PM   #11 
     - But someone else can, right?  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:33 PM   #18 
        - Seriously?  Courtesy Flush   Nov-01-11 02:45 PM   #23 
        - No it hasn't. You have a warped perspective on the history of the world.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:49 PM   #27 
           - And people like me who have no idea how and no ability to build?  dmallind   Nov-01-11 04:30 PM   #64 
           - Housing standards have come up, buddy.  Yo_Mama   Nov-01-11 04:37 PM   #66 
        - houses are not  MrDiaz   Nov-01-11 03:45 PM   #56 
  - What?  HappyMe   Nov-01-11 02:08 PM   #4 
  - +1  Wait Wut   Nov-01-11 03:11 PM   #47 
  - How are you going to get everyone to give you all the stuff you need to build a house?  dkf   Nov-01-11 02:09 PM   #5 
  - Let a computer give someone a loan...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:11 PM   #8 
     - So where does the money for the loan come from? nt  Recovered Repug   Nov-01-11 02:36 PM   #19 
  - i like turtles  piratefish08   Nov-01-11 02:09 PM   #6 
  - What the fuck are you talking about?  BeyondGeography   Nov-01-11 02:14 PM   #9 
  - I don't understand what you are saying.  county worker   Nov-01-11 02:16 PM   #10 
  - Where does the money to build the house come from?  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:31 PM   #17 
     - People have to trade their labor or something for the money. It did not grow on a tree.  county worker   Nov-01-11 02:41 PM   #21 
     - Do the people who create money have to trade their labor for it?  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:46 PM   #24 
        - Why don't you answer my question instead of asking me questions?  county worker   Nov-01-11 02:49 PM   #26 
        - I think that's actually quite obvious. No.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:50 PM   #29 
        - Money is a means of exchange and a holder of value.  county worker   Nov-01-11 02:50 PM   #28 
        - And should the people who create new stones with holes in them...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:51 PM   #31 
        - Yes, it is a highly productive job if done right  Yo_Mama   Nov-01-11 04:45 PM   #67 
     - no always. My house was built in 1929 - paid off years ago  sammytko   Nov-01-11 02:43 PM   #22 
     - Stop doing that  Courtesy Flush   Nov-01-11 02:46 PM   #25 
     - I'm trying to get people to think.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:52 PM   #32 
        - I suggest that you start by getting yourself to think, then.  MineralMan   Nov-01-11 03:07 PM   #45 
     - Just reading between the lines here....  pipi_k   Nov-01-11 03:47 PM   #57 
  - If you want a free house we can always help you put up a shack.  dkf   Nov-01-11 02:19 PM   #13 
  - I don't think you understand either money or mortgages. NT  Llewlladdwr   Nov-01-11 02:51 PM   #30 
  - Dear, chances are I know more than you do...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:55 PM   #35 
     - Then explain to me what money is. NT  Llewlladdwr   Nov-01-11 02:58 PM   #36 
        - Money is a universal good which arises in more complicated civilizations...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 03:04 PM   #41 
           - Very good. Except that I create my own money.  Llewlladdwr   Nov-01-11 03:13 PM   #48 
           - True, the value is not created...  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 03:15 PM   #50 
              - Again, you're confusing the tokens with the value they represent.  Llewlladdwr   Nov-01-11 03:27 PM   #53 
              - Oh dear...  MineralMan   Nov-01-11 03:32 PM   #54 
           - And it cuts down on how many exchange rates we have to know.  Hosnon   Nov-01-11 03:51 PM   #58 
  - Surely you are not as naive as you sound in this post.  MineralMan   Nov-01-11 02:52 PM   #33 
  - Oh joy, a long winded rant that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I'm talking about.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 02:54 PM   #34 
     - You picked a really bizarre way to frame your question then. NT  Llewlladdwr   Nov-01-11 02:59 PM   #37 
     - No. It hasn't always been so. You could gather a group of people  MineralMan   Nov-01-11 03:02 PM   #40 
     - I suggest, then, that you ask the question directly, rather than  MineralMan   Nov-01-11 03:04 PM   #42 
        - Actually, I don't think I even said what you said I said.  originalpckelly   Nov-01-11 03:05 PM   #43 
           - No, I did not assume that you were a dirty commie hippie type.  MineralMan   Nov-01-11 03:08 PM   #46 
  - Someone is obviously having a bad day...  RevStPatrick   Nov-01-11 03:01 PM   #39 
  - "your fucking house"  SoCalDem   Nov-01-11 03:24 PM   #52 
  - That's not entirely correct.  Llewlladdwr   Nov-01-11 03:32 PM   #55 
     - hence the "..."  SoCalDem   Nov-01-11 08:44 PM   #68 
  - The economy doesn't have the ability to allocate a house  Yo_Mama   Nov-01-11 04:15 PM   #61 
  - And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon  obliviously   Nov-01-11 04:15 PM   #62 
  - Interesting stance, care to loan me $100,000  Riftaxe   Nov-01-11 04:36 PM   #65 
  - Well Sherlock ...  GeorgeGist   Nov-01-11 10:20 PM   #69 
  - Sounds like you are due beer and travel money, and many experiences. nt  Obamanaut   Nov-02-11 04:53 AM   #70 
  - I agree. We should have a post-scarcity society, like in Star Trek.  Norrin Radd   Nov-02-11 05:03 AM   #71 

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