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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-11 08:38 AM
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13. Obama's post-partisanship means we are all Republicans now
and if he can't convince us to be Republicans then he'll just scuttle the Democratic Party as to remove the obstacle to his "one nation" tripe.
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  -RAW Exclusive - Sen Sanders: Obama May CUT SOCIAL SECURITY Segami  Jan-18-11 08:28 AM   #0 
  - That reminds me... I need to take my 2 percent and put  Kalyke   Jan-18-11 08:30 AM   #1 
  - self delete -- inserted at wrong spot  BigBearJohn   Jan-19-11 12:23 AM   #54 
  - Hear, hear  somone   Jan-18-11 08:31 AM   #2 
  - Show of hands..... Anyone actually surprised?  bobbolink   Jan-18-11 08:31 AM   #3 
  - But, the prez gave such a great speech last week!  CrispyQ   Jan-18-11 08:52 AM   #23 
  - Yes, we keep getting words.  bobbolink   Jan-18-11 02:29 PM   #44 
  - "lunatic fringe"  CrispyQ   Jan-19-11 09:38 AM   #104 
     - Not standing firm on our beliefs is destructive. It is one thing to honestly question,  bobbolink   Jan-19-11 11:25 AM   #109 
  - I am sick of his speeches! Just pure Bullshit!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-18-11 07:12 PM   #48 
  - +1000  BrklynLiberal   Jan-19-11 06:51 AM   #90 
  - Have you read posts #13 & 70?  CrispyQ   Jan-19-11 09:48 AM   #106 
  - Yes, he gave a wonderful speech, and then he went back to the  JDPriestly   Jan-19-11 12:49 AM   #57 
  - "There is a huge and very irrational leap of faith required to fully swallow that propaganda ..."  bobbolink   Jan-19-11 09:31 AM   #103 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-19-11 07:21 AM   #94 
  - He has done the wrong thing  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:40 AM   #69 
  - Not even slightly. nm  Richard Steele   Jan-19-11 05:13 AM   #80 
  - there wouldn't have been a catfood commission -- and the people chosen for the commission --  xchrom   Jan-18-11 08:31 AM   #4 
  - Precisely  somone   Jan-18-11 08:33 AM   #7 
  - That was kinda obvious, wasn't it? We needed a Dem to do what RW couldn't do.  bobbolink   Jan-18-11 08:33 AM   #8 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jan-18-11 08:34 AM   #10 
  - Jesus and Sanders - guilty of socialism  upi402   Jan-18-11 08:32 AM   #5 
  - K&R. Thank you, Bernie, for looking out for the American people.  bullwinkle428   Jan-18-11 08:32 AM   #6 
  - Bernie is awesome. Check out NCPSSM. They just launched a Million $ Campaign on this issue  jtown1123   Jan-18-11 11:11 AM   #39 
     - Thank you jtown! I just subscribed to their e-mail notices to help me  snappyturtle   Jan-19-11 04:54 AM   #74 
     - Great! Here is a letter you can print out and mail to the White House  jtown1123   Jan-19-11 09:14 AM   #102 
     - I second what SNAPPYTURTLE said.  Altoid_Cyclist   Jan-19-11 05:12 AM   #79 
  - If Obama compromises social security, he will lose the progressives completely, and if the Democrats  still_one   Jan-18-11 08:33 AM   #9 
  - Obama's post-partisanship means we are all Republicans now  TheKentuckian   Jan-18-11 08:38 AM   #13 
  - He will lose everyone.  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:44 AM   #70 
  - Exactly...  sendero   Jan-19-11 05:15 AM   #82 
  - Obama's fake hope & change was pushed on everyone so that he could be THE ONE to do the dirty work  earth mom   Jan-19-11 01:50 PM   #118 
     - +100. triangulation.  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-11 12:33 AM   #126 
  - I figured they would raise the age you can first collect to 67. How many would die prior to  sarcasmo   Jan-18-11 08:35 AM   #11 
  - The retirement age is already slated to hit 67.  Sirveri   Jan-19-11 06:02 AM   #88 
     - Currently you can draw early at a discount starting at age 62. My thinking is that is the age  sarcasmo   Jan-19-11 08:14 AM   #98 
        - You can withdraw at 62 but with a penalty.  Sirveri   Jan-19-11 11:17 PM   #122 
  - So when they cut SS how much will they cut the SS tax?  MattBaggins   Jan-18-11 08:35 AM   #12 
  - Obama needs to be told.....touch SS and you will be primaried.  yourout   Jan-18-11 08:40 AM   #14 
  - Touch SS and it will be one term. For many Democrats that is the line in the sand  elocs   Jan-18-11 08:43 AM   #15 
  - and it should be the last straw, as you implied if that happens there is little to differentiate  still_one   Jan-18-11 08:45 AM   #16 
     - Social Security should be the line in the sand for us, the 3rd rail:  elocs   Jan-18-11 08:50 AM   #22 
  - Can we start a petition on this one? I think your words are accurate and all that is needed.  glinda   Jan-18-11 08:46 AM   #18 
  - Send this letter to the White House (A printable PDF)  jtown1123   Jan-19-11 09:13 AM   #101 
  - Do you think Obama really cares or is worried about that?  Better Believe It   Jan-18-11 08:48 AM   #20 
  - +1000!  SammyWinstonJack   Jan-18-11 07:15 PM   #49 
  - I figure he will run  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:47 AM   #71 
  - +1,000,000,000  grahamhgreen   Jan-18-11 10:44 AM   #37 
  - He won't care; he'll have plenty of money already.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-18-11 03:36 PM   #45 
  - +1x1000 nt  snappyturtle   Jan-19-11 04:58 AM   #76 
  - It's not a matter of may. He will. They will raise the retirement age  no limit   Jan-18-11 08:45 AM   #17 
  - It will be presented as a way to "shore up" and "preserve" this glorious program,  QC   Jan-18-11 08:46 AM   #19 
     - Don't forget the offset-single spot light on him for ' angelic ' effect.  Segami   Jan-18-11 08:49 AM   #21 
     - "Make no mistake--we will never "cut" Social Security...." n/t  QC   Jan-18-11 08:53 AM   #24 
        - Oh he's got that covered.  MattBaggins   Jan-18-11 08:57 AM   #27 
        - Yea right, sounds like a familiar tune  Segami   Jan-18-11 09:04 AM   #28 
     - don't forget to toss in *historic* in the speechifying  Donnachaidh   Jan-18-11 08:56 AM   #26 
     - History will remember him for pretty speeches  somone   Jan-18-11 09:09 AM   #29 
     - Maybe he'll trot out his pretty family & cute dogto show what a "caring & compassionate" person  earth mom   Jan-19-11 01:56 PM   #120 
  - The day Obama proposes his intended attack on the least of us  Bluenorthwest   Jan-18-11 08:55 AM   #25 
  - Hasn't that day come and gone?  pam4water   Jan-19-11 02:42 AM   #63 
  - What party are we going to join?  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:49 AM   #72 
  - The country still has a week to work itself into a frenzy over it.  Buns_of_Fire   Jan-18-11 09:12 AM   #30 
  - You will be relieved. That is their intention.  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:53 AM   #73 
  - Corpse of FDR to be exhumed and shot. nt  Deep13   Jan-18-11 09:13 AM   #31 
  - Huh?  avaistheone1   Jan-19-11 12:33 AM   #56 
  - RW economic supporters hate FDR and the New Deal.  Deep13   Jan-19-11 08:50 AM   #99 
  - Makes sense to me :P  pam4water   Jan-19-11 02:41 AM   #62 
  - Bankers need more bulletproof limos. Teachers and retirees must "tighten their belts."  DirkGently   Jan-18-11 10:01 AM   #32 
  - When have you ever read or heard of a Banker tightening up their belts in order to make ends meet  Segami   Jan-18-11 10:37 AM   #35 
  - Clearly you don't understand bankers' suffering. They need our money -- all of it -- to save us.  DirkGently   Jan-18-11 11:30 AM   #40 
  - No, we must gear up for  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:54 AM   #75 
  - The Bowles/Simpson commission...  FlyByNight   Jan-18-11 10:14 AM   #33 
  - Considering the slim pickens that most aging job-seekers in the US already face  Urban Prairie   Jan-18-11 10:33 AM   #34 
  - K&R, we need a primary challenger. Why not let us put more into SS, instead of less. Instead of  grahamhgreen   Jan-18-11 10:42 AM   #36 
  - They want your money.  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 05:07 AM   #77 
  - The ' un-rec ' trolls are still trying for whatever reason.  Segami   Jan-18-11 11:09 AM   #38 
  - I just had some pretty heated arguments with denialists on an Obama SS thread  jtown1123   Jan-18-11 02:28 PM   #43 
  - Well don't worry.  pa28   Jan-18-11 06:51 PM   #46 
  - I don't, however, notice theusual suspects posting in this thread.  PassingFair   Jan-19-11 07:25 AM   #95 
  - Obama is already on thin ice with me. He TOUCHES SS and he will  ProfessionalLeftist   Jan-18-11 12:56 PM   #41 
  - Considering Bernies level of frustration..  disillusioned73   Jan-18-11 01:45 PM   #42 
  - You aren't the only one...I'm strongly tempted to write in Bernie Sanders  Raksha   Jan-20-11 12:29 AM   #125 
  - Since I don't have a dog in this hunt, let me lay out your options:  lfairban   Jan-18-11 07:08 PM   #47 
  - 4) Stop pissing billions/ trillions  Golden Raisin   Jan-19-11 01:46 AM   #59 
  - That would be reasonable.  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 05:10 AM   #78 
  - Won't work  lfairban   Jan-19-11 01:41 PM   #115 
  - Option 3 - we could start a jobs program, teach people how to live in a  jtuck004   Jan-19-11 01:46 AM   #60 
  - How about PUT OUR FUCKING MONEY BACK!!!  MsPithy   Jan-19-11 01:57 AM   #61 
  - Surplus is due to demographic anomalies  lfairban   Jan-19-11 01:47 PM   #116 
  - First of all, neither you or I or anyone else knows what the world will be  truedelphi   Jan-20-11 12:17 AM   #123 
  - bullshit.  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-11 12:37 AM   #127 
  - You said it.  Bluebear   Jan-21-11 02:57 PM   #133 
  - Are you even aware that Social Security has a 2.1 trillion dollar surplus?  truedelphi   Jan-19-11 02:48 AM   #64 
  - See reply 116  lfairban   Jan-19-11 01:49 PM   #117 
     - Please see reply 123. Thanks. n/t  truedelphi   Jan-20-11 12:20 AM   #124 
  - best option: take the income cap off ss taxation and further tax the rich  diane in sf   Jan-19-11 04:24 AM   #67 
  - Good recommendation  lfairban   Jan-19-11 01:51 PM   #119 
  - "the rich" don't make most of their money from wages. Raise income taxes on "the rich",  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-11 12:38 AM   #128 
  - Option 3) REMOVE THE CAP and CUT payroll taxes...  cascadiance   Jan-19-11 07:17 AM   #92 
     - bullshit. rich people don't get most of their income from wages.  Hannah Bell   Jan-20-11 12:40 AM   #130 
        - Huh? Are you say9ing that those making $106k or less in wages make 85% of the nation's income?  cascadiance   Jan-20-11 05:11 PM   #132 
  - IOW: Bernie's been talking to Obama himself. ANY cuts would = the death of the Democratic Party. NO  WinkyDink   Jan-18-11 07:17 PM   #50 
  - Except so many younger voters have been totally mesmerized by the notion  truedelphi   Jan-19-11 02:50 AM   #65 
  - But it's a Ponzi scheme.  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 05:15 AM   #83 
  - Wall Street is the real Ponzi scheme.  truedelphi   Jan-19-11 01:27 PM   #112 
  - Not true. Although we are told it is broke, polls show we overwhelmingly support  jtown1123   Jan-19-11 09:41 AM   #105 
  - Support for social security  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 05:14 AM   #81 
  - I am so disillusioned.  senseandsensibility   Jan-18-11 07:23 PM   #51 
  - If they cut my SS, I'm DEAD  Mojeoux   Jan-18-11 07:27 PM   #52 
  - HUGE K & R !!!  WillyT   Jan-18-11 07:39 PM   #53 
  - I can't shake the image of a prize fighter being paid off to throw the fight.  BigBearJohn   Jan-19-11 12:27 AM   #55 
  - He was a corporatist before he became pres! He played a progressive on tv.  democracy1st   Jan-19-11 12:57 AM   #58 
  - You're right on that.  Spike from MN   Jan-19-11 01:29 PM   #113 
  - That's exactly what's happening  somone   Jan-19-11 11:00 AM   #108 
  - Yes they're coming for SS  dreamnightwind   Jan-19-11 03:57 AM   #66 
  - Will the Obama Administration  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 04:37 AM   #68 
  - I agree with most of what you say, however, I believe that 'something'  snappyturtle   Jan-19-11 05:33 AM   #85 
     - Thank you, snappy. It's a good letter.  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 05:48 AM   #86 
  - If Obama cuts Social Security he will lose.  fasttense   Jan-19-11 05:31 AM   #84 
  - Pete Peterson  Enthusiast   Jan-19-11 05:49 AM   #87 
  - But...but...but...SARAH PALIN!  katnapped   Jan-19-11 06:50 AM   #89 
  - The people he really works for (NOT US!) will reward him  FiveGoodMen   Jan-19-11 12:24 PM   #110 
  - Cut a deal with the Republicans! Let'm impeach Obama if we can impeach Roberts on the SCOTUS!  cascadiance   Jan-19-11 07:12 AM   #91 
  - "may"? Looks like a done deal to me. nt  TBF   Jan-19-11 07:18 AM   #93 
  - Please don't continue to think that this is a Dem/Repub thing with him going Repub -this is  peacetalksforall   Jan-19-11 07:40 AM   #96 
  - Ugh yeah, we're fucked.  lonestarnot   Jan-19-11 09:10 AM   #100 
  - While he "may" cut it, if Obama so much as breaths on SS...  Javaman   Jan-19-11 07:57 AM   #97 
  - "May"? It's clear that has been his plan for a while.  Edweird   Jan-19-11 10:33 AM   #107 
  - ...Or all along.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-19-11 12:35 PM   #111 
  - "We have a president who is not prepared to defend the heart and soul of what the Democratic Party  earth mom   Jan-19-11 01:33 PM   #114 
  - And we have "Democrats" still defending him.  FiveGoodMen   Jan-19-11 02:06 PM   #121 
  - If Obama goes after Social Security...  kentuck   Jan-20-11 12:39 AM   #129 
  - Bernie never really loved Him!  Bluebear   Jan-20-11 04:03 AM   #131 
 

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