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Tue Jan-18-11 08:33 AM
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| 8. That was kinda obvious, wasn't it? We needed a Dem to do what RW couldn't do. |
| -RAW Exclusive - Sen Sanders: Obama May CUT SOCIAL SECURITY |
Segami |
Jan-18-11 08:28 AM |
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That reminds me... I need to take my 2 percent and put |
Kalyke |
Jan-18-11 08:30 AM |
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self delete -- inserted at wrong spot |
BigBearJohn |
Jan-19-11 12:23 AM |
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Hear, hear |
somone |
Jan-18-11 08:31 AM |
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Show of hands..... Anyone actually surprised? |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-11 08:31 AM |
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But, the prez gave such a great speech last week! |
CrispyQ |
Jan-18-11 08:52 AM |
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Yes, we keep getting words. |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-11 02:29 PM |
#44 |
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"lunatic fringe" |
CrispyQ |
Jan-19-11 09:38 AM |
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Not standing firm on our beliefs is destructive. It is one thing to honestly question, |
bobbolink |
Jan-19-11 11:25 AM |
#109 |
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I am sick of his speeches! Just pure Bullshit! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jan-18-11 07:12 PM |
#48 |
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+1000 |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-19-11 06:51 AM |
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Have you read posts #13 & 70? |
CrispyQ |
Jan-19-11 09:48 AM |
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Yes, he gave a wonderful speech, and then he went back to the |
JDPriestly |
Jan-19-11 12:49 AM |
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"There is a huge and very irrational leap of faith required to fully swallow that propaganda ..." |
bobbolink |
Jan-19-11 09:31 AM |
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Jan-19-11 07:21 AM |
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He has done the wrong thing |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:40 AM |
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Not even slightly. nm |
Richard Steele |
Jan-19-11 05:13 AM |
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there wouldn't have been a catfood commission -- and the people chosen for the commission -- |
xchrom |
Jan-18-11 08:31 AM |
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Precisely |
somone |
Jan-18-11 08:33 AM |
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That was kinda obvious, wasn't it? We needed a Dem to do what RW couldn't do. |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-11 08:33 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Jan-18-11 08:34 AM |
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Jesus and Sanders - guilty of socialism |
upi402 |
Jan-18-11 08:32 AM |
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K&R. Thank you, Bernie, for looking out for the American people. |
bullwinkle428 |
Jan-18-11 08:32 AM |
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Bernie is awesome. Check out NCPSSM. They just launched a Million $ Campaign on this issue |
jtown1123 |
Jan-18-11 11:11 AM |
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Thank you jtown! I just subscribed to their e-mail notices to help me |
snappyturtle |
Jan-19-11 04:54 AM |
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Great! Here is a letter you can print out and mail to the White House |
jtown1123 |
Jan-19-11 09:14 AM |
#102 |
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I second what SNAPPYTURTLE said. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Jan-19-11 05:12 AM |
#79 |
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If Obama compromises social security, he will lose the progressives completely, and if the Democrats |
still_one |
Jan-18-11 08:33 AM |
#9 |
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Obama's post-partisanship means we are all Republicans now |
TheKentuckian |
Jan-18-11 08:38 AM |
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He will lose everyone. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:44 AM |
#70 |
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Exactly... |
sendero |
Jan-19-11 05:15 AM |
#82 |
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Obama's fake hope & change was pushed on everyone so that he could be THE ONE to do the dirty work |
earth mom |
Jan-19-11 01:50 PM |
#118 |
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+100. triangulation. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-11 12:33 AM |
#126 |
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I figured they would raise the age you can first collect to 67. How many would die prior to |
sarcasmo |
Jan-18-11 08:35 AM |
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The retirement age is already slated to hit 67. |
Sirveri |
Jan-19-11 06:02 AM |
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Currently you can draw early at a discount starting at age 62. My thinking is that is the age |
sarcasmo |
Jan-19-11 08:14 AM |
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You can withdraw at 62 but with a penalty. |
Sirveri |
Jan-19-11 11:17 PM |
#122 |
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So when they cut SS how much will they cut the SS tax? |
MattBaggins |
Jan-18-11 08:35 AM |
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Obama needs to be told.....touch SS and you will be primaried. |
yourout |
Jan-18-11 08:40 AM |
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Touch SS and it will be one term. For many Democrats that is the line in the sand |
elocs |
Jan-18-11 08:43 AM |
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and it should be the last straw, as you implied if that happens there is little to differentiate |
still_one |
Jan-18-11 08:45 AM |
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Social Security should be the line in the sand for us, the 3rd rail: |
elocs |
Jan-18-11 08:50 AM |
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Can we start a petition on this one? I think your words are accurate and all that is needed. |
glinda |
Jan-18-11 08:46 AM |
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Send this letter to the White House (A printable PDF) |
jtown1123 |
Jan-19-11 09:13 AM |
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Do you think Obama really cares or is worried about that? |
Better Believe It |
Jan-18-11 08:48 AM |
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+1000! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Jan-18-11 07:15 PM |
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I figure he will run |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:47 AM |
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+1,000,000,000 |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-18-11 10:44 AM |
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He won't care; he'll have plenty of money already. |
FiveGoodMen |
Jan-18-11 03:36 PM |
#45 |
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+1x1000 nt |
snappyturtle |
Jan-19-11 04:58 AM |
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It's not a matter of may. He will. They will raise the retirement age |
no limit |
Jan-18-11 08:45 AM |
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It will be presented as a way to "shore up" and "preserve" this glorious program, |
QC |
Jan-18-11 08:46 AM |
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Don't forget the offset-single spot light on him for ' angelic ' effect. |
Segami |
Jan-18-11 08:49 AM |
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"Make no mistake--we will never "cut" Social Security...." n/t |
QC |
Jan-18-11 08:53 AM |
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Oh he's got that covered. |
MattBaggins |
Jan-18-11 08:57 AM |
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Yea right, sounds like a familiar tune |
Segami |
Jan-18-11 09:04 AM |
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don't forget to toss in *historic* in the speechifying |
Donnachaidh |
Jan-18-11 08:56 AM |
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History will remember him for pretty speeches |
somone |
Jan-18-11 09:09 AM |
#29 |
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Maybe he'll trot out his pretty family & cute dogto show what a "caring & compassionate" person |
earth mom |
Jan-19-11 01:56 PM |
#120 |
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The day Obama proposes his intended attack on the least of us |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-18-11 08:55 AM |
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Hasn't that day come and gone? |
pam4water |
Jan-19-11 02:42 AM |
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What party are we going to join? |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:49 AM |
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The country still has a week to work itself into a frenzy over it. |
Buns_of_Fire |
Jan-18-11 09:12 AM |
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You will be relieved. That is their intention. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:53 AM |
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Corpse of FDR to be exhumed and shot. nt |
Deep13 |
Jan-18-11 09:13 AM |
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Huh? |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-19-11 12:33 AM |
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RW economic supporters hate FDR and the New Deal. |
Deep13 |
Jan-19-11 08:50 AM |
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Makes sense to me :P |
pam4water |
Jan-19-11 02:41 AM |
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Bankers need more bulletproof limos. Teachers and retirees must "tighten their belts." |
DirkGently |
Jan-18-11 10:01 AM |
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When have you ever read or heard of a Banker tightening up their belts in order to make ends meet |
Segami |
Jan-18-11 10:37 AM |
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Clearly you don't understand bankers' suffering. They need our money -- all of it -- to save us. |
DirkGently |
Jan-18-11 11:30 AM |
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No, we must gear up for |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:54 AM |
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The Bowles/Simpson commission... |
FlyByNight |
Jan-18-11 10:14 AM |
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Considering the slim pickens that most aging job-seekers in the US already face |
Urban Prairie |
Jan-18-11 10:33 AM |
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K&R, we need a primary challenger. Why not let us put more into SS, instead of less. Instead of |
grahamhgreen |
Jan-18-11 10:42 AM |
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They want your money. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 05:07 AM |
#77 |
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The ' un-rec ' trolls are still trying for whatever reason. |
Segami |
Jan-18-11 11:09 AM |
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I just had some pretty heated arguments with denialists on an Obama SS thread |
jtown1123 |
Jan-18-11 02:28 PM |
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Well don't worry. |
pa28 |
Jan-18-11 06:51 PM |
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I don't, however, notice theusual suspects posting in this thread. |
PassingFair |
Jan-19-11 07:25 AM |
#95 |
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Obama is already on thin ice with me. He TOUCHES SS and he will |
ProfessionalLeftist |
Jan-18-11 12:56 PM |
#41 |
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Considering Bernies level of frustration.. |
disillusioned73 |
Jan-18-11 01:45 PM |
#42 |
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You aren't the only one...I'm strongly tempted to write in Bernie Sanders |
Raksha |
Jan-20-11 12:29 AM |
#125 |
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Since I don't have a dog in this hunt, let me lay out your options: |
lfairban |
Jan-18-11 07:08 PM |
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4) Stop pissing billions/ trillions |
Golden Raisin |
Jan-19-11 01:46 AM |
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That would be reasonable. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 05:10 AM |
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Won't work |
lfairban |
Jan-19-11 01:41 PM |
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Option 3 - we could start a jobs program, teach people how to live in a |
jtuck004 |
Jan-19-11 01:46 AM |
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How about PUT OUR FUCKING MONEY BACK!!! |
MsPithy |
Jan-19-11 01:57 AM |
#61 |
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Surplus is due to demographic anomalies |
lfairban |
Jan-19-11 01:47 PM |
#116 |
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First of all, neither you or I or anyone else knows what the world will be |
truedelphi |
Jan-20-11 12:17 AM |
#123 |
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bullshit. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-11 12:37 AM |
#127 |
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You said it. |
Bluebear |
Jan-21-11 02:57 PM |
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Are you even aware that Social Security has a 2.1 trillion dollar surplus? |
truedelphi |
Jan-19-11 02:48 AM |
#64 |
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See reply 116 |
lfairban |
Jan-19-11 01:49 PM |
#117 |
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Please see reply 123. Thanks. n/t |
truedelphi |
Jan-20-11 12:20 AM |
#124 |
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best option: take the income cap off ss taxation and further tax the rich |
diane in sf |
Jan-19-11 04:24 AM |
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Good recommendation |
lfairban |
Jan-19-11 01:51 PM |
#119 |
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"the rich" don't make most of their money from wages. Raise income taxes on "the rich", |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-11 12:38 AM |
#128 |
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Option 3) REMOVE THE CAP and CUT payroll taxes... |
cascadiance |
Jan-19-11 07:17 AM |
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bullshit. rich people don't get most of their income from wages. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-20-11 12:40 AM |
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Huh? Are you say9ing that those making $106k or less in wages make 85% of the nation's income? |
cascadiance |
Jan-20-11 05:11 PM |
#132 |
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IOW: Bernie's been talking to Obama himself. ANY cuts would = the death of the Democratic Party. NO |
WinkyDink |
Jan-18-11 07:17 PM |
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Except so many younger voters have been totally mesmerized by the notion |
truedelphi |
Jan-19-11 02:50 AM |
#65 |
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But it's a Ponzi scheme. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 05:15 AM |
#83 |
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Wall Street is the real Ponzi scheme. |
truedelphi |
Jan-19-11 01:27 PM |
#112 |
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Not true. Although we are told it is broke, polls show we overwhelmingly support |
jtown1123 |
Jan-19-11 09:41 AM |
#105 |
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Support for social security |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 05:14 AM |
#81 |
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I am so disillusioned. |
senseandsensibility |
Jan-18-11 07:23 PM |
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If they cut my SS, I'm DEAD |
Mojeoux |
Jan-18-11 07:27 PM |
#52 |
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HUGE K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Jan-18-11 07:39 PM |
#53 |
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I can't shake the image of a prize fighter being paid off to throw the fight. |
BigBearJohn |
Jan-19-11 12:27 AM |
#55 |
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He was a corporatist before he became pres! He played a progressive on tv. |
democracy1st |
Jan-19-11 12:57 AM |
#58 |
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You're right on that. |
Spike from MN |
Jan-19-11 01:29 PM |
#113 |
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That's exactly what's happening |
somone |
Jan-19-11 11:00 AM |
#108 |
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Yes they're coming for SS |
dreamnightwind |
Jan-19-11 03:57 AM |
#66 |
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Will the Obama Administration |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 04:37 AM |
#68 |
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I agree with most of what you say, however, I believe that 'something' |
snappyturtle |
Jan-19-11 05:33 AM |
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Thank you, snappy. It's a good letter. |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 05:48 AM |
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If Obama cuts Social Security he will lose. |
fasttense |
Jan-19-11 05:31 AM |
#84 |
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Pete Peterson |
Enthusiast |
Jan-19-11 05:49 AM |
#87 |
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But...but...but...SARAH PALIN! |
katnapped |
Jan-19-11 06:50 AM |
#89 |
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The people he really works for (NOT US!) will reward him |
FiveGoodMen |
Jan-19-11 12:24 PM |
#110 |
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Cut a deal with the Republicans! Let'm impeach Obama if we can impeach Roberts on the SCOTUS! |
cascadiance |
Jan-19-11 07:12 AM |
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"may"? Looks like a done deal to me. nt |
TBF |
Jan-19-11 07:18 AM |
#93 |
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Please don't continue to think that this is a Dem/Repub thing with him going Repub -this is |
peacetalksforall |
Jan-19-11 07:40 AM |
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Ugh yeah, we're fucked. |
lonestarnot |
Jan-19-11 09:10 AM |
#100 |
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While he "may" cut it, if Obama so much as breaths on SS... |
Javaman |
Jan-19-11 07:57 AM |
#97 |
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"May"? It's clear that has been his plan for a while. |
Edweird |
Jan-19-11 10:33 AM |
#107 |
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...Or all along. |
FiveGoodMen |
Jan-19-11 12:35 PM |
#111 |
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"We have a president who is not prepared to defend the heart and soul of what the Democratic Party |
earth mom |
Jan-19-11 01:33 PM |
#114 |
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And we have "Democrats" still defending him. |
FiveGoodMen |
Jan-19-11 02:06 PM |
#121 |
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If Obama goes after Social Security... |
kentuck |
Jan-20-11 12:39 AM |
#129 |
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Bernie never really loved Him! |
Bluebear |
Jan-20-11 04:03 AM |
#131 |
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