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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 03:50 PM
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44. It's remarkable that the crowd in Oakland was so well behaved
when you think about it because the OPD started raiding them at 3:30 that morning and this assault on Olsen happened more than twelve hours later.

They didn't retaliate. They didn't start breaking anything. They marched and when they were blocked from moving, they stood still and chanted.

It really says something about who these people are that after twelve hours of being arrested, dispossessed, watching their camp being destroyed before their eyes, after being threatened and gassed and shot at, they didn't deviate from their principled non-violence.
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  -Marine: "He was aiming at him-Oakland Used Crowd Control Methods That Are Prohibited In War Zones" kpete  Oct-28-11 06:30 PM   #0 
  - Recommend!  Fire Walk With Me   Oct-28-11 06:32 PM   #1 
  - He was aiming at him.  Vincardog   Oct-28-11 06:32 PM   #2 
  - Assumes cops are perfect shots and the victim was stationary.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:16 PM   #57 
     - IMO, it assumes that the cop wasn't using proper technique  dotymed   Oct-29-11 11:13 PM   #72 
  - K&R. eom  City Lights   Oct-28-11 06:34 PM   #3 
  - K&R n/t  louslobbs   Oct-28-11 06:35 PM   #4 
  - WOW! These Cops just Made themselves the Bad Guys....  fascisthunter   Oct-28-11 06:36 PM   #5 
  - Nope. YOU just made them the bad guys. Enjoy your divided and conquered Occupy movement.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:20 PM   #60 
     - I normally support the police but in this case the protesters  MadMaddie   Oct-29-11 07:03 PM   #69 
  - Ready....aim....FIRE!  democrank   Oct-28-11 06:39 PM   #6 
  - With the drug war, the cops have had nothing but sitting ducks for decades.  Gregorian   Oct-28-11 06:40 PM   #7 
  - This has to be a crime. The cop who did it should/MUST be prosecuted.  Bake   Oct-28-11 07:52 PM   #8 
  - And those who gave the orders to use such force need to be  gateley   Oct-29-11 01:46 PM   #22 
     - City Administrator Deanna Santana developed the plan  lunatica   Oct-29-11 02:26 PM   #29 
        - Don't know about the jurisdiction rules, but even if there is  gateley   Oct-29-11 02:30 PM   #30 
           - I got that information from the Mayor's Facebook page  lunatica   Oct-29-11 02:49 PM   #31 
              - I've got a rage-on for deanna Santana now, too. I just read  gateley   Oct-29-11 03:48 PM   #43 
  - There is a tendency to confuse ROE with legal limits  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-28-11 07:55 PM   #9 
  - Are you saying that firing tear gas into a crowd at close range..  redqueen   Oct-29-11 09:14 AM   #11 
     - At a minimum, it's assault under color of authority, expert witnesses will convince a jury  bananas   Oct-29-11 12:08 PM   #17 
     - Good viewpoint. Thanks for offering up the links. n/t  truedelphi   Oct-29-11 05:11 PM   #53 
     - I am saying the citing the ROE in Afganistan is not relevant in the slightest  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-29-11 01:23 PM   #20 
        - First things first  Marazinia   Oct-29-11 02:53 PM   #33 
           - I think you stated this perfectly -- sent out to stop the protest,  gateley   Oct-29-11 03:44 PM   #42 
           - Not gonna happen. Forget about it. (Remember the Rodney King video?)  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-29-11 05:03 PM   #52 
              - Probably not  Marazinia   Oct-30-11 10:40 PM   #75 
  - If  cyglet   Oct-28-11 08:03 PM   #10 
  - recommend  xchrom   Oct-29-11 09:14 AM   #12 
  - I'm stunned, but of course, he is correct.  joanbarnes   Oct-29-11 10:47 AM   #13 
  - This is laughable.  tuckessee   Oct-29-11 11:32 AM   #14 
  - You have not a damn clue.  Muskypundit   Oct-29-11 11:59 AM   #16 
  - +1 nt  gateley   Oct-29-11 01:50 PM   #23 
  - Sorry, but everyone is fallible. And dividing and conquering police vs. soldiers benefits only the  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:22 PM   #61 
     - Sure everyone is fallible.  Muskypundit   Oct-29-11 06:44 PM   #68 
  - that same military  reggie the dog   Oct-29-11 01:39 PM   #21 
  - no I dont. Do you? were you there? ...of course you werent.  pasto76   Oct-29-11 02:22 PM   #27 
  - I hear you. I understand where you are coming from.  truedelphi   Oct-29-11 05:24 PM   #56 
  - Yep... K & R !!!  WillyT   Oct-29-11 11:56 AM   #15 
  - It was pretty obvious.  Major Hogwash   Oct-29-11 12:18 PM   #18 
  - Let's hope Scott is luckier than Rubn Salazar  sce56   Oct-29-11 01:02 PM   #19 
  - Good find. And having had that happen, you'd think they'd  gateley   Oct-29-11 01:53 PM   #24 
     - Here is a photo taken just before the LA Sheriffs Deputy murdered Salazar  sce56   Oct-29-11 03:07 PM   #37 
        - I'm not sure if the piece is saying that he was specifically  gateley   Oct-29-11 04:33 PM   #49 
        - I was getting at the fact that it was a callous use of force shooting a Wall piercing round through  sce56   Oct-29-11 09:00 PM   #70 
        - Here's a pic of the police line-up behind Scott Olsen:  Fire Walk With Me   Oct-29-11 04:37 PM   #50 
  - The cop who did this should be put on trial for attempted murder.  UnrepentantLiberal   Oct-29-11 01:56 PM   #25 
  - well. Isnt that interesting. takes the wind out of any notion OPD was responding to assault...  pasto76   Oct-29-11 02:21 PM   #26 
  - It's remarkable that the crowd in Oakland was so well behaved  EFerrari   Oct-29-11 03:50 PM   #44 
  - has conclusive proof been found that it was a CS canister?  pasto76   Oct-29-11 02:23 PM   #28 
  - Howard Jordon isn't exactly over-exerting himself looking for evidence.  EFerrari   Oct-29-11 03:52 PM   #45 
  - He was aiming at him.  Enthusiast   Oct-29-11 02:50 PM   #32 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Oct-29-11 02:54 PM   #34 
  - K & R  Raksha   Oct-29-11 03:03 PM   #35 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Oct-29-11 03:04 PM   #36 
  - The Guilty Policeman Should be Prosecuted. Period!  mckara   Oct-29-11 03:08 PM   #38 
  - Although unlikely,  sulphurdunn   Oct-29-11 03:21 PM   #39 
  - Anonymous say they have identified the culprit. eom  Fire Walk With Me   Oct-29-11 03:29 PM   #40 
  - Good  MissDeeds   Oct-29-11 04:30 PM   #48 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-11 03:38 PM   #41 
  - Yes it does.  Marazinia   Oct-29-11 03:53 PM   #46 
  - Great read. K and R  Quixote1818   Oct-29-11 03:53 PM   #47 
  - Why are cops not tested for personality disorders.  Marnie   Oct-29-11 04:47 PM   #51 
  - Oddly enough...  Marazinia   Oct-29-11 05:16 PM   #54 
  - K&R n/t  DeSwiss   Oct-29-11 05:18 PM   #55 
  - Whoa. n/t  Mimosa   Oct-29-11 06:17 PM   #58 
  - The 1% WANTS you to hate the police. So, by all means, HATE the police.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:19 PM   #59 
  - When is it time to say enough?  Marazinia   Oct-29-11 06:23 PM   #62 
     - The correct response is to get the police to change the policies that call for extraordinary force.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:25 PM   #64 
  - This whole thread is one big divide and conquer opportunity for Wall Street.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:23 PM   #63 
  - This is true  Marazinia   Oct-29-11 06:26 PM   #65 
     - It should take you down on the ground just like in the Civil Rights movement. Go limp.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 06:28 PM   #66 
        - I hope you're right  Marazinia   Oct-29-11 06:34 PM   #67 
  - By this logic, a US service member was aiming at Pat Tillman in Afghanistan.  McCamy Taylor   Oct-29-11 10:15 PM   #71 
  - K&R  burrowowl   Oct-29-11 11:53 PM   #73 
  - This makes me feel ill.  Quantess   Oct-30-11 09:27 AM   #74 

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