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True Earthling Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:00 PM
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89. Sounds more like hate fueled by envy and jealously...
Possessions do not define what a person is... many decent, caring people become rich for various reasons... some because because of determination, hard work, intelligence and creativity. Some because of being in the right place at the right time or being born into the right family. I'm not saying all rich people are decent but there is no direct correlation between moral values and possessions. Being poor doesn't make one more moral than the rich and being rich does not make one less moral.

Your treatise screams of victomhood... (I HATE THE RICH.Why? Because they make me Suffer so they never will have to!!). That sounds like a self-defeatist attitude. If you really believe that it's now wonder you feel powerless and miserable.
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  -Why I hate the rich undergroundpanther  Oct-28-11 05:49 PM   #0 
  - Maybe we should stop electing them.  hughee99   Oct-28-11 06:33 PM   #1 
  - We often elect middle class people who crave becoming rich  Mimosa   Oct-29-11 11:53 PM   #92 
  - I hate the rich because they will never be subjected to the crap that makes us miserable.  Initech   Oct-28-11 06:45 PM   #2 
  - Everybody goes through life with pain -- some more, some less -- including the  Cal33   Oct-29-11 04:07 PM   #85 
  - I didn't read the whole thing, because it's way too long...  RevStPatrick   Oct-28-11 06:50 PM   #3 
  - Yeah, I agree. They're miserable because as soon as they get any power,..  yoyossarian   Oct-29-11 04:56 AM   #59 
  - I guess you aren't an FDR or JFK or EMK fan then.  virgogal   Oct-28-11 06:53 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-11 06:55 PM   #5 
  - Don't hate the mentally ill...  Bigmack   Oct-28-11 07:00 PM   #6 
  - I usually  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:46 PM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-28-11 07:08 PM   #7 
  - YOUR????  Tuesday Afternoon   Oct-28-11 07:16 PM   #10 
  - Grammar was obviously highly overrated in your school, I see.  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-28-11 07:22 PM   #12 
  - Hatred is unhealthy  Herlong   Oct-28-11 07:10 PM   #8 
  - I do hate and I am not ashamed of it.  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 09:56 PM   #16 
  - There are rich people who are not economic fascists....  AntiFascist   Oct-28-11 10:19 PM   #20 
     - capitalism  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:37 PM   #26 
     - Do you equate strength with wealth?  AntiFascist   Oct-28-11 10:46 PM   #29 
        - Money = Power  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:48 PM   #31 
        - MLK was one of the most powerful Americans who ever lived...  AntiFascist   Oct-28-11 10:50 PM   #34 
        - Tain't so, McGee. Wealth has power over all of us. Witness our crashed economy,  Laluchacontinua   Oct-28-11 10:51 PM   #37 
           - I believe economic fascism exerts that kind of power which we are witnessing now..  AntiFascist   Oct-29-11 02:28 AM   #57 
              - Just because our live's seemed OK before the current crisis doesn't mean  Laluchacontinua   Oct-29-11 04:58 AM   #60 
                 - Hitler's financiers brought about fascism....  AntiFascist   Oct-29-11 05:32 PM   #88 
                    - You're moving the topic, which originally was about wealth & power, not  Laluchacontinua   Oct-29-11 11:32 PM   #90 
                       - My main point is...  AntiFascist   Oct-30-11 12:31 AM   #96 
                          - The period of time in which checks & balances prevented "socializing the losses" under  Laluchacontinua   Oct-30-11 12:34 AM   #97 
                             - Then it's time for some real CHANGE....  AntiFascist   Oct-30-11 01:01 AM   #101 
     - The very rich actually stick together  Mimosa   Oct-30-11 12:20 AM   #94 
     - Everyday life under "democracy" is all about social darwinism & weeding out those  Laluchacontinua   Oct-30-11 12:49 AM   #99 
        - It's sad when everyday life under democracy...  AntiFascist   Oct-30-11 02:33 AM   #107 
           - I grew up in a Quaker (Friends) family. Did you know the source of their power  Laluchacontinua   Oct-30-11 03:12 AM   #110 
              - I wasn't intending to endorse any brand of organized religion....  AntiFascist   Oct-30-11 03:02 PM   #116 
  - Rich people want us to hate ourselves or hate the targets they so thoughtfully designate for us.  Laluchacontinua   Oct-28-11 10:48 PM   #32 
  - yep  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:52 PM   #38 
  - FUCKING EXACTLY!!!! You nailed it.  bluestate10   Oct-29-11 09:39 AM   #70 
  - While I really understand where you are coming from here  BrendaBrick   Oct-28-11 07:13 PM   #9 
  - I am not tolerant  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:06 PM   #17 
     - You are a socialist. And a social moocher. You are likely none of either.  bluestate10   Oct-29-11 09:44 AM   #71 
  - You hate Alan Grayson?  Nye Bevan   Oct-28-11 07:17 PM   #11 
  - what types  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:22 PM   #21 
  - I hate bad people. Many rich people are good people.  Nye Bevan   Oct-28-11 10:36 PM   #24 
  - sorry  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:43 PM   #27 
     - Apology accepted.  Nye Bevan   Oct-28-11 10:55 PM   #39 
        - Not trusting  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 11:15 PM   #44 
           - So you've moved from "hating" to "not trusting but not despising". That's progress. (nt)  Nye Bevan   Oct-28-11 11:24 PM   #47 
              - I still hate rich people  undergroundpanther   Oct-29-11 01:45 AM   #56 
                 - Oh. Never mind.  bluestate10   Oct-29-11 09:53 AM   #76 
  - There are some good rich people.  bluestate10   Oct-29-11 09:49 AM   #74 
  - $31.41 mil is not 'rich' to the 1%  Mimosa   Oct-30-11 01:00 AM   #100 
  - On NPR a pundit said he was surprised with how mild OWS is considering  flamingdem   Oct-28-11 07:22 PM   #13 
  - Martin luther king Jr. We Shall Over Come  Herlong   Oct-28-11 08:56 PM   #14 
  - We shall  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:49 PM   #33 
     - Are They Still Around?  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-30-11 01:16 PM   #114 
  - K&R....n/t  unkachuck   Oct-28-11 09:01 PM   #15 
  - I don't care if people have a lot of money and stuff. I do care  Zorra   Oct-28-11 10:14 PM   #18 
  - Sheesh.. what a whinefest....  Cid_B   Oct-28-11 10:14 PM   #19 
  - geez  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:26 PM   #22 
     - Yep. That is the ticket. Set those that disagree with you to Ignore.  bluestate10   Oct-29-11 09:59 AM   #77 
        - you were never put on ignore  undergroundpanther   Oct-29-11 03:11 PM   #81 
  - It's not a zero-sum game.  itsallhappening   Oct-28-11 10:30 PM   #23 
  - well go ahead and tell yourself  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 10:51 PM   #36 
  - Actually, it is. But it takes some thought to see it.  Laluchacontinua   Oct-29-11 01:23 AM   #54 
  - Some people have mentioned a people like Grayson, and other good rich people.  white_wolf   Oct-28-11 10:37 PM   #25 
  - "Change the system, you will change the people "  TBF   Oct-29-11 10:00 AM   #78 
     - The "self" that thinks & acts on the thoughts it thinks is created by whatever it's born into.  Laluchacontinua   Oct-29-11 11:41 PM   #91 
  - have you considered you are rich also?  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-28-11 10:46 PM   #30 
  - you have a point..Compared to the third world (the vast majority of humanity)  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-28-11 10:50 PM   #35 
  - I don't have much  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-28-11 11:00 PM   #41 
     - yeah they are  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 11:21 PM   #46 
     - I have been saying something similar  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-28-11 11:33 PM   #48 
        - Puzzledtraveller, a warm welcome to Democratic Underground from an old timer  Mimosa   Oct-30-11 12:47 AM   #98 
     - I sympathize with that perspective  loyalsister   Oct-28-11 11:53 PM   #50 
  - I wish I could  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 11:11 PM   #42 
  - I do understand, and you are right  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-28-11 11:12 PM   #43 
  - well they do go without..but they go without together. still the gap between rich in poor in the  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-28-11 11:20 PM   #45 
  - Where I live I have no  undergroundpanther   Oct-28-11 11:42 PM   #49 
     - well much of western society - particularly much of America is deeply alienated  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-28-11 11:57 PM   #51 
     - I had a similar upbringing  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-28-11 11:58 PM   #52 
  - Infant mortality, life expectancy, adult literacy, nutrition, status of women, etc, etc  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-30-11 07:39 AM   #112 
  - Living in a house v. a hut doesn't make one rich, for all that it might appear so to the person  Laluchacontinua   Oct-29-11 01:33 AM   #55 
  - You know, you should know better than this.  HughBeaumont   Oct-29-11 09:13 AM   #63 
  - Right-wing talking point  occupyeverywhere   Oct-29-11 09:19 AM   #64 
     - Yes, I open my RW evening talk show with this every night  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-29-11 09:23 AM   #65 
  - I don't. some are pretty nice people. Some have a sense of fairness. I just want the system to be  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-28-11 10:55 PM   #40 
  - I LOVE YOU, PANTHER.  yoyossarian   Oct-29-11 12:59 AM   #53 
  - kr+8... amazing thread, actually. this is one of the reasons i still love DU.  inna   Oct-29-11 03:08 AM   #58 
  - Republicans need to stop putting the wealthy before We the People!  B Calm   Oct-29-11 07:51 AM   #61 
  - And this is why the right wing aren't entirely wrong about the left :-s  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-29-11 08:45 AM   #62 
  - Why, pray tell, "in an ideal world, would we like to see them become richer?"  HughBeaumont   Oct-30-11 01:11 AM   #104 
     - I'm afraid I think you're responding to what you think I said, not what I actually said.  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-30-11 07:34 AM   #111 
  - I stopped reading after the first paragraph - too incoherent. nt  Lucky Luciano   Oct-29-11 09:28 AM   #66 
  - "too incoherent."  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-11 03:57 PM   #82 
  - LOL Lucky.  A HERETIC I AM   Oct-30-11 12:29 AM   #95 
  - I have no sympathy for you.  bluestate10   Oct-29-11 09:34 AM   #67 
  - That's A Bit Harsh  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-30-11 01:19 PM   #115 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-11 09:35 AM   #68 
  - I hate the selfish, the greedy, and the malicious.  redqueen   Oct-29-11 09:38 AM   #69 
  - K & R!  lonestarnot   Oct-29-11 09:45 AM   #72 
  - Wow, I totally disagree.  Courtesy Flush   Oct-29-11 09:46 AM   #73 
  - I Fail To See The Efficacy Of Making Broad Generalizations  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-29-11 09:50 AM   #75 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-29-11 01:26 PM   #79 
  - -1.  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-29-11 01:38 PM   #80 
  - I don't hate anybody.  mahina   Oct-29-11 03:59 PM   #83 
  - Money isn't everything.  Texasgal   Oct-29-11 04:06 PM   #84 
  - Um, so you hate a whole group of people because they have some things you don't?  InvisibleTouch   Oct-29-11 04:41 PM   #86 
  - BTW what is the exact net worth level for triggering your unbridled hatred?  Nye Bevan   Oct-29-11 05:20 PM   #87 
  - Sounds more like hate fueled by envy and jealously...  True Earthling   Oct-29-11 07:00 PM   #89 
  - I don't think the OP sounds like that at all. I think "jealousy" is a standard talking  Laluchacontinua   Oct-30-11 01:10 AM   #103 
     - All humans have contradictions...  True Earthling   Oct-30-11 03:35 PM   #118 
        - The presence of permanent poverty in the developed world has nothing to do with  Laluchacontinua   Oct-31-11 02:05 AM   #121 
           - If you are poor and doing cocaine you almost guaranteed to stay poor  True Earthling   Oct-31-11 10:00 PM   #122 
  - Kicking a literary masterpiece. Read this with an open mind and heart. n/t  Mimosa   Oct-29-11 11:59 PM   #93 
  - "Techno-feudalism". Good phrase. But what's coming seems worse than  Laluchacontinua   Oct-30-11 01:06 AM   #102 
  - LOL @ "Literary masterpiece".  A HERETIC I AM   Oct-30-11 02:04 AM   #106 
     - Not joking about the literary value.  Mimosa   Oct-30-11 06:56 PM   #119 
  - How far does this extend yeah sure the 1% but how about the top 2%  Raine   Oct-30-11 01:50 AM   #105 
  - Why I ate the rich.  Rex   Oct-30-11 02:39 AM   #108 
  - Let's boil it down. Wealth is freedom.  MrSlayer   Oct-30-11 02:54 AM   #109 
  - What about people NAMED Rich or Richard? Do you hate THEM too? HUH? DO YOU?  yoyossarian   Oct-30-11 11:52 AM   #113 
  - Behind every great fortune is a great crime.  Odin2005   Oct-30-11 03:07 PM   #117 
  - Kicking.  Mimosa   Oct-30-11 07:19 PM   #120 
  - Since we're being honest about it . . .  Major Hogwash   Oct-31-11 10:24 PM   #123 
 

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