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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 05:22 PM
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12. They dont have to filibuster. The very mention of it makes the Democrats run and hide.
Eliminate the fucking filibuster rule so the Democrats can stop using it as an excuse.

And dont you dare give me the bullshit that if we eliminate the rule, some day it might come back to bite us. DAMNIT WE ARE GETTING BITTEN NOW.
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  -Just a reminder, the GOP didn't actually Filibuster anything to kill the jobs bill ThomWV  Oct-22-11 04:54 PM   #0 
  - K/R  lib2DaBone   Oct-22-11 04:58 PM   #1 
  - Both sides are invested in failure...  rbnyc   Oct-22-11 05:53 PM   #21 
     - Both "actual" sides do...  Amonester   Oct-23-11 09:07 AM   #41 
     - dems and repubs are one side, we are the other. nt  tomp   Oct-23-11 09:33 AM   #42 
  - As to the old-style filibuster, senate rules changed some time ago,  elleng   Oct-22-11 04:59 PM   #2 
  - No they didn't. Unless the Rape-Publicans declaring it so makes it so.  ClassWarrior   Oct-22-11 05:02 PM   #3 
     - 'No they didn't,' that's why we see repugs 'actually' filibustering these days.  elleng   Oct-22-11 05:17 PM   #10 
     - They dont have to filibuster. The very mention of it makes the Democrats run and hide.  rhett o rick   Oct-22-11 05:22 PM   #12 
        - It had its uses when it was something which was used only occasionally.  JHB   Oct-22-11 05:51 PM   #18 
     - FILIBUSTERS DO NOT WORK THE WAY YOU THINK THEY DO.  TheWraith   Oct-23-11 12:17 PM   #51 
  - K&R for the TRUTH - n/t  DeSwiss   Oct-22-11 05:04 PM   #4 
  - The Democrats  connecticut yankee   Oct-22-11 05:08 PM   #5 
  - Yes because they can use it as an excuse not to pass legislation. nm  rhett o rick   Oct-22-11 05:26 PM   #13 
  - what do you think are chances the that the Pukes will do away w/it?  mitchtv   Oct-22-11 06:08 PM   #22 
  - when my congresscritter Lloyd Doggett was in the TX Senate  hobbit709   Oct-22-11 05:10 PM   #6 
  - Leadership was not able to invoke cloture and end debate.  tritsofme   Oct-22-11 05:10 PM   #7 
  - They were not able to end debate, true, but then why didn't they make them "debate" 'til they could?  Dragonfli   Oct-22-11 07:21 PM   #25 
     - That's why they call it the virtual filibuster, it's not a real filibuster, it's a rigged system.  joshcryer   Oct-22-11 08:12 PM   #32 
     - Cute games with semantics aside, the "filibuster" you dream of is a myth.  tritsofme   Oct-22-11 08:23 PM   #33 
        - You are the one playing Semantics, if they made then filibuster, no other work could get done  Dragonfli   Oct-22-11 08:49 PM   #34 
           - The majority has the burden of govening.  tritsofme   Oct-22-11 09:10 PM   #35 
              - They have the burden of governing and yet through timidness abdicate the governing to  Dragonfli   Oct-23-11 12:01 AM   #38 
  - I completely agree and that may be the next political theater if the Dems are smart.  AtomicKitten   Oct-22-11 05:12 PM   #8 
  - How many Democrats are there in the Senate currently?  Hoopla Phil   Oct-22-11 05:14 PM   #9 
  - Democrats or DINO's?  hobbit709   Oct-22-11 05:17 PM   #11 
  - That's why there is a position call The Whip.  Hoopla Phil   Oct-22-11 05:30 PM   #15 
     - Evidently the person in that position isn't very effective.  hobbit709   Oct-22-11 05:45 PM   #16 
        - Perhaps it should be changed  izquierdista   Oct-22-11 05:49 PM   #17 
           - I'd settle for chaining them to their seats  hobbit709   Oct-22-11 05:53 PM   #20 
  - It takes 60 'yes' votes to bring cloture on a bill before a bill can have a final vote.  Tx4obama   Oct-22-11 05:28 PM   #14 
     - They could force them to debate, rather than just folding without them actually filibustering  Dragonfli   Oct-22-11 07:24 PM   #26 
  - k&r...  spanone   Oct-22-11 05:52 PM   #19 
  - By the current rules, it was a filibuster. Those rules changed decades ago.  pnwmom   Oct-22-11 06:18 PM   #23 
  - That is simply not true /nt  Dragonfli   Oct-22-11 07:26 PM   #27 
  - Aside from that,  bvar22   Oct-22-11 07:00 PM   #24 
  - You're absolutely correct: There was no filibuster, only the threat of one. nt  Poll_Blind   Oct-22-11 07:28 PM   #28 
  - I think we are in that part of the relationship where both parties  Rex   Oct-22-11 07:31 PM   #29 
  - Well, technically they didn't filibuster the jobs bill, did they?  moose65   Oct-22-11 08:08 PM   #30 
  - *sigh* The virtual filibuster doesn't require them to stand up and speak.  joshcryer   Oct-22-11 08:09 PM   #31 
  - I am so WITH you. This has always amde me furious. backroom deals instead of  robinlynne   Oct-22-11 09:43 PM   #36 
  - How many times has this been debunked?  treestar   Oct-22-11 09:44 PM   #37 
  - I cannot comprehend why we need to have this conversation once a week or so.  Codeine   Oct-23-11 09:36 AM   #43 
     - "Reid triggers nuclear option to change Senate rules"  Romulox   Oct-23-11 09:44 AM   #44 
  - ANY tactic that delays or foils the will of the senate majority is BY DEFINITION a filibuster  unblock   Oct-23-11 12:47 AM   #39 
  - Senate rules may be changed on a majority vote. Harry Reid did it THIS YEAR>  Romulox   Oct-23-11 08:52 AM   #40 
  - Senator Reid just used the Constitutional Option "nuclear option" to stop a Republican filibuster.  Better Believe It   Oct-23-11 09:49 AM   #45 
  - Impossible!  Romulox   Oct-23-11 10:09 AM   #47 
  - Dick Durbin: Time to change the filibuster  Swede   Oct-23-11 09:55 AM   #46 
  - the loyalists squeal on about filibusters but  SwampG8r   Oct-23-11 11:06 AM   #48 
  - The elected Democrats #1 priority is to ensure the viability of the Republican Party.  stillwaiting   Oct-23-11 11:50 AM   #49 
  - Dysfunctional Senate  libinnyandia   Oct-23-11 12:06 PM   #50 
 

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