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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:22 PM
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9. Exactly...and as a warning to Stalin.
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  -An act we never faced up to. Dropping two atomic bombs on Japan. Cyrano  Oct-21-11 04:58 PM   #0 
  - I faced up to it long ago.  Donny   Oct-21-11 05:00 PM   #1 
  - I was 12 years old and am ashamed to admit we all cheered when we heard about the bombings. It  virgogal   Oct-21-11 05:03 PM   #2 
  - I'm 60 years old. I'm not in the least ashamed to admit that I probably would not be here ...  11 Bravo   Oct-21-11 10:07 PM   #82 
     - Glad you're here. The Japanese would have fought to the last man and  virgogal   Oct-22-11 07:33 PM   #84 
  - Total war is a myth. The US intentionally targeted innocent people. nt  ZombieHorde   Oct-21-11 05:05 PM   #3 
  - I'm always amamzed how the standard lie goes unquestioned.  Scruffy1   Oct-21-11 05:18 PM   #7 
  - Operation Olympic  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Oct-21-11 05:20 PM   #8 
  - You believe the American military had no invasion plan for Japan?  Throd   Oct-21-11 05:33 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-21-11 05:40 PM   #25 
  - Actually, the lie here is yours.  TheWraith   Oct-21-11 05:55 PM   #51 
  - Atomic bombs hadn't been tested on living cities.  hunter   Oct-22-11 08:24 PM   #85 
  - My father was a  Mendocino   Oct-22-11 09:29 PM   #87 
  - Who did the Japanese target, hmmm?  Romulox   Oct-21-11 05:34 PM   #17 
     - Our Navy?  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:38 PM   #21 
     - Oh dear. You seem to be unaware of Imperial Japan's genocide on the Asian mainland.  Romulox   Oct-21-11 05:46 PM   #36 
     - They targeted civilians. How do you feel about that?  ZombieHorde   Oct-21-11 07:24 PM   #76 
        - War industries, naval shipyards, and military depots.  Spider Jerusalem   Oct-23-11 05:02 AM   #92 
           - What do you use as your moral compass? How do you determine right from wrong? nt  ZombieHorde   Oct-23-11 04:10 PM   #95 
  - Hiroshima and Nagasaki where crimes against humanity.  Youth Uprising   Oct-21-11 05:12 PM   #4 
  - Exactly...and as a warning to Stalin.  AnOhioan   Oct-21-11 05:22 PM   #9 
  - And to prevent Stalin and his Red Chinese buddies from getting all of China before Japan surrendered  JVS   Oct-21-11 05:54 PM   #49 
  - What do you think Germany or Japan would have done  doc03   Oct-21-11 05:34 PM   #15 
  - You didn't read the entire OP, did you? Arguing for an imagined future is specious.  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:39 PM   #23 
  - Say I killed a few families with some new biochemical blight.  themadstork   Oct-21-11 05:57 PM   #53 
  - +1... anyone think Hitler would have spared London, or NYC?  JCMach1   Oct-23-11 04:17 AM   #90 
  - Oh God... you did it twice...  Cid_B   Oct-21-11 05:54 PM   #48 
  - How about not nuking...period?  Wait Wut   Oct-21-11 05:14 PM   #5 
  - I can understand the mother's position.  Nye Bevan   Oct-21-11 05:45 PM   #34 
     - Actually, I felt bad for her.  Wait Wut   Oct-21-11 06:08 PM   #59 
     - lol. Well played....  cliffordu   Oct-23-11 04:13 PM   #96 
  - My opinion has always been  MicaelS   Oct-21-11 05:17 PM   #6 
  - This pretty much covers my thinking on the subject, and has the added benefit of being historically  apocalypsehow   Oct-21-11 05:30 PM   #11 
  - Yep. I agree completely.  cliffordu   Oct-21-11 05:35 PM   #18 
  - +1000000  csziggy   Oct-21-11 05:42 PM   #28 
  - +1. Firebombings killed more people anyway, so it is essentially arbitrary.  fishbulb703   Oct-21-11 05:52 PM   #46 
  - +1001.  closeupready   Oct-21-11 05:58 PM   #54 
  - Exellent post  pintobean   Oct-21-11 06:18 PM   #63 
  - Eisenhower thought that dropping those bombs was wrong.  MannyGoldstein   Oct-21-11 05:26 PM   #10 
  - I would have authorized one, against a much smaller city...  Rabblevox   Oct-21-11 05:30 PM   #12 
  - Well, those innocent civilians of "a much smaller city" just don't count, do they?  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:41 PM   #26 
     - So you would have preferred a ground war? I can only assume you've never had a loved one...  Rabblevox   Oct-21-11 05:51 PM   #44 
        - His not wearing a uniform means murdering civilians is okeydokes?  themadstork   Oct-21-11 06:06 PM   #58 
           - No, of course not. But it DOES mean that if you have never been in combat, you should tread...  Rabblevox   Oct-21-11 06:16 PM   #62 
              - Don't really buy this. People are always trying to put whatever absurd requirements on  themadstork   Oct-21-11 07:10 PM   #73 
                 - Do you know WHY the Japanese did what they did?  comtec   Oct-21-11 07:40 PM   #78 
                    - How is this a response to what I said?  themadstork   Oct-21-11 09:29 PM   #79 
  - What were your friend's thoughts on the Rape of Nanking?  Romulox   Oct-21-11 05:33 PM   #14 
  - What's your point? One war crime deserves another? Awesome logic, there!  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:42 PM   #27 
     - I wanted to hear this wise man's FULL perspective on the war. Seems he didn't look that deep.  Romulox   Oct-21-11 05:45 PM   #33 
        - You wanted an essay, maybe? (Your disingenuousness is painfully obvious.)  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:47 PM   #37 
           - You are over-emotive and under-informed on this subject, it would seem. nt  Romulox   Oct-21-11 05:48 PM   #40 
  - You should be on how Thanksgiving celebrates genocide against Native Americans now.  slackmaster   Oct-21-11 05:34 PM   #16 
  - Yep - lol....  cliffordu   Oct-21-11 05:37 PM   #19 
  - That's why I make my special pecan pie!  Throd   Oct-21-11 05:39 PM   #24 
  - Laughing about the FACT of genocide against indigenous peoples? For the sake of myth and turkey?  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:44 PM   #31 
     - Who's laughing?  slackmaster   Oct-21-11 05:49 PM   #42 
     - Not laughing at genocide, just amused by the annual hand-wringing at DU.  Throd   Oct-21-11 05:51 PM   #45 
  - I think, whatever the ostensible reason, it's pretty evident that both bombings were war crimes.  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:37 PM   #20 
  - The atomic bombs definitely saved Japanese and American lives.  JVS   Oct-21-11 05:38 PM   #22 
  - What about "deliberately killing civilians is a war crime" do you not get?  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:43 PM   #29 
     - The part where they deliberately targeted civilians.  JVS   Oct-21-11 05:51 PM   #43 
     - The notion that civilians are innocent and off limits in wartime went out the door  DinahMoeHum   Oct-21-11 05:56 PM   #52 
     - Any other laws you want to declare nonexistent?  themadstork   Oct-21-11 06:03 PM   #56 
     - Name the recent (last 100 years) war that did not involve it  quaker bill   Oct-21-11 06:31 PM   #69 
  - Shameful to see those still trying to justify it to themselves.  themadstork   Oct-21-11 05:43 PM   #30 
  - We face up to it every August  taterguy   Oct-21-11 05:45 PM   #32 
  - Yeah, this thread is 2 months out of season.  JVS   Oct-21-11 05:52 PM   #47 
     - And I, for one, don't play this guilt-tripping crap.  DinahMoeHum   Oct-21-11 07:00 PM   #72 
  - Ya gotta love the "we had to commit war crimes to stop the evil war criminals" argument.  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:46 PM   #35 
  - This is not a contest based on volume of comments. nt  Romulox   Oct-21-11 05:47 PM   #38 
     - You can stop any time!  WinkyDink   Oct-21-11 05:49 PM   #41 
  - well stated  G_j   Oct-21-11 05:47 PM   #39 
  - Given the circumstances at the time, it was a correct decision.  closeupready   Oct-21-11 05:55 PM   #50 
  - Thank you! My sentiments as well.  DinahMoeHum   Oct-21-11 06:01 PM   #55 
  - I've never understood why densely populated cities were chosen  polly7   Oct-21-11 06:03 PM   #57 
  - Easy. More dead people.  Zanzoobar   Oct-21-11 06:15 PM   #61 
     - Obviously. What made them so sure Japan would surrender because  polly7   Oct-21-11 06:21 PM   #64 
        - Which military bases would you have recommended nuking?  Zanzoobar   Oct-21-11 06:26 PM   #68 
  - Consider Hiroshima the demonstration.  Zanzoobar   Oct-21-11 06:15 PM   #60 
  - Two months too late  izquierdista   Oct-21-11 06:21 PM   #65 
  - Your post is 36 minutes late . . .  taterguy   Oct-21-11 06:32 PM   #70 
     - Your post is 40 minutes late  Zanzoobar   Oct-21-11 06:35 PM   #71 
  - They sell their shit here tariff free.....  ingac70   Oct-21-11 06:23 PM   #66 
  - Hindsight is 20/20.  MrSlayer   Oct-21-11 06:25 PM   #67 
  - My father fought in WWII and if he were sent to invade Japan I might not be here  Motown_Johnny   Oct-21-11 07:17 PM   #74 
  - What the Emperor said...  aikoaiko   Oct-21-11 07:21 PM   #75 
  - Lucky for the world people like you were not in charge in 1945 n/t  Meeker Morgan   Oct-21-11 07:27 PM   #77 
  - Consider Okinawa a prelude...  BlueCheese   Oct-21-11 09:52 PM   #80 
  - The firebombing campaign was even more disgusting if that's possible.  Bonobo   Oct-21-11 09:55 PM   #81 
  - I mourn...  foreigncorrespondent   Oct-21-11 10:09 PM   #83 
  - First: yes, they did drop leaflets on the targets warning them days in advance that utter  apocalypsehow   Oct-23-11 02:47 AM   #89 
  - Hundreds of thousands of infantrymen would have died if not for those bombs.  tabasco   Oct-22-11 08:28 PM   #86 
  - The war needed to end. Truman made the right decision.  tritsofme   Oct-22-11 09:32 PM   #88 
  - +1 even Truman might have decided differently after the fact...  JCMach1   Oct-23-11 04:18 AM   #91 
  - My opinion?  Comrade Richard   Oct-23-11 05:17 AM   #93 
  - many factors  melm00se   Oct-23-11 05:37 AM   #94 
  - The mass firebombing of cities was far more horrible than the nukes.  Odin2005   Oct-23-11 04:19 PM   #97 
 

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