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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 06:32 AM
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83. Qaddafi was not
assassinated by American troops. He was killed by Lybians. By the people he had brutalized for 4 decades. If the Iraqi people had risen up and deposed Hussein, even by assassination, That would have been their business.
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  -I don't get it...why are people supporting taking down Qaddafi but not Saddam Hussein? dkf  Oct-20-11 11:08 PM   #0 
  - Saddam Hussein had more tasteful fashion sense.  Orrex   Oct-20-11 11:10 PM   #1 
  - Just as an aside, I completely agree.  PurityOfEssence   Oct-21-11 02:46 PM   #110 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-20-11 11:12 PM   #2 
  - If I could rec a thousand times I would. At least someone is  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 12:15 AM   #37 
     - It is odd how things are shaping up, isn't it?  dkf   Oct-21-11 02:32 AM   #68 
  - Thousands of U.S. casualties  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-20-11 11:12 PM   #3 
  - +1  lifesbeautifulmagic   Oct-20-11 11:13 PM   #4 
  - They thought Iraq would be easy.  dkf   Oct-20-11 11:14 PM   #5 
  - Bush lied  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-20-11 11:23 PM   #12 
  - So let's say Iraq hadn't happened, and the Shia and Kurds decide to uprise...  dkf   Oct-20-11 11:27 PM   #14 
  - So it is Perpendicular  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-20-11 11:43 PM   #19 
  - No George W Bush shock and awe...  dkf   Oct-20-11 11:55 PM   #26 
     - That would be up to the people in Alternate-Universe Iraq  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-21-11 12:04 AM   #30 
     - What do you think the no fly zones and sanctions and all the other  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-21-11 07:18 AM   #88 
  - If the UN authorizes it. No one was going to intervene in Libya without UN approval.  pampango   Oct-21-11 03:17 PM   #112 
  - Bush not only lied, but he was going on a UN resolution from 1991. He had no unilateral support...  joshcryer   Oct-21-11 12:21 AM   #40 
  - Qaddafi was not  polmaven   Oct-21-11 06:32 AM   #83 
  - This war, like Iraq, is just beginning.  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 01:16 AM   #57 
  - According to NATO  bighart   Oct-21-11 09:12 AM   #92 
  - You seem to be having a problem with simple logic..  Fumesucker   Oct-20-11 11:15 PM   #6 
  - Tribalism  Danse   Oct-20-11 11:19 PM   #9 
  - Iokiyad.  dkf   Oct-20-11 11:20 PM   #10 
  - Took me a minute.  tblue   Oct-20-11 11:53 PM   #24 
  - That's about the size of it. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Oct-20-11 11:43 PM   #18 
  - Shh! Don't reveal the secret playbook!  Ignis   Oct-21-11 02:37 PM   #108 
  - I believe in the rule of law and leadership without lies or wars of plunder  mmonk   Oct-20-11 11:17 PM   #7 
  - Because they're hypocrites.  Youth Uprising   Oct-20-11 11:19 PM   #8 
  - I think hell just froze over.  white_wolf   Oct-20-11 11:21 PM   #11 
  - I know, right? nt  PETRUS   Oct-20-11 11:42 PM   #16 
  - ..  leftstreet   Oct-20-11 11:42 PM   #17 
  - I feel woozy too.  JVS   Oct-21-11 12:18 AM   #38 
  - Lol, I was thinking the same thing. Maybe s/he just expresses  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 01:18 AM   #58 
  - yep! - and not the first time in my personal experience, either!  inna   Oct-21-11 01:31 AM   #61 
  - Yes OP is definitely Concerned over this  devilgrrl   Oct-21-11 08:28 AM   #90 
  - I think Bush the Older should have finished him off in 1991.  ellisonz   Oct-20-11 11:24 PM   #13 
  - Exactly. Had we destroyed the retreating forces the Shiite uprising would have taken care of Saddam  FarCenter   Oct-21-11 08:48 AM   #91 
  - That is because the coalition would have splintered  rpannier   Oct-22-11 04:49 AM   #129 
  - Lets make it 2 out of 3 when Syria is next  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-20-11 11:36 PM   #15 
  - Agreed  Danse   Oct-20-11 11:43 PM   #20 
  - Ug. Bush Bad. Ug. Obama Good. With us or against us. Shut up.  PurityOfEssence   Oct-20-11 11:47 PM   #21 
  - It's mind-blowing.  tblue   Oct-20-11 11:51 PM   #23 
  - That's pretty much the way I see it, too -  lynne   Oct-20-11 11:55 PM   #25 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-20-11 11:51 PM   #22 
  - I have no idea what you are talking about.  Rex   Oct-20-11 11:57 PM   #27 
  - You are right. Yikes.  dkf   Oct-21-11 12:08 AM   #32 
  - pan am flight 103 ??  spanone   Oct-20-11 11:58 PM   #28 
  - I am very curious to know what we said to the Brits about releasing the Pan Am bomber.  dkf   Oct-21-11 12:05 AM   #31 
  - He was the *convicted* "Pan-Am bomber". He probably didn't do it.  Spider Jerusalem   Oct-21-11 09:17 PM   #125 
  - That was never an issue when he became our new best friend  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 01:23 AM   #59 
     - Who is this "we"  thucythucy   Oct-21-11 07:57 PM   #119 
  - It's easy to explain. It's not who was taken down, but who's in charge at the time of the take down.  Balbus   Oct-21-11 12:02 AM   #29 
  - Wrong - it's also about how you deal with Bad Guys  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-21-11 12:12 AM   #36 
     - Might as well just assassinate them then.  dkf   Oct-21-11 12:24 AM   #41 
        - I don't think so  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-21-11 12:29 AM   #46 
  - We have a sizable chunk, maybe the majority who care more about the who than the what.  TheKentuckian   Oct-21-11 12:09 AM   #33 
  - Jonestown*  ellisonz   Oct-21-11 02:50 AM   #72 
     - Hehee, quite right  TheKentuckian   Oct-21-11 08:27 AM   #89 
  - This time their team is doing it.  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 12:11 AM   #34 
  - simply put with this poster, yep!  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-21-11 01:01 AM   #55 
  - because there is a Dem in the White House  TorchTheWitch   Oct-21-11 12:11 AM   #35 
  - Looks like you're still pursuing here arguments that arose in your other thread  pinboy3niner   Oct-21-11 12:20 AM   #39 
  - Idiotic comparison.  geek tragedy   Oct-21-11 12:25 AM   #42 
  - Plus, less people died than in Castro's Angola. It was a purely internationalist effort.  joshcryer   Oct-21-11 12:29 AM   #45 
  - So you do support taking down Saddam Hussein. You just don't like the way we did it?  dkf   Oct-21-11 12:33 AM   #47 
     - I support popular uprisings against dictators.  geek tragedy   Oct-21-11 12:36 AM   #48 
     - They killed him you know...the Iraqis I mean.  dkf   Oct-21-11 12:45 AM   #50 
        - After we invaded.  geek tragedy   Oct-21-11 12:48 AM   #52 
           - And after we invaded Libya and according to the reports  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 03:31 PM   #114 
     - taking out saddam was as stupid as george w bush was stupid  ldf   Oct-21-11 08:51 PM   #120 
  - We should have a secret commitee  obliviously   Oct-21-11 12:26 AM   #43 
  - Libya was a popular revolution with no US casualties.  AngkorWot   Oct-21-11 12:28 AM   #44 
  - +1. What is so hard to understand about this? nt  killbotfactory   Oct-21-11 09:07 PM   #122 
  - Simple. Bush. n/t  greytdemocrat   Oct-21-11 12:44 AM   #49 
  - Many dem establishment types only supported the anti-iraq war movement for  dameocrat67   Oct-21-11 12:46 AM   #51 
  - +1 They grabbed the midterms being anti-war. Then promptly gave Bush more war $$  leftstreet   Oct-21-11 01:00 AM   #54 
  - In Libya, we aided a popular revolution in a way that minimized civilian deaths  bhikkhu   Oct-21-11 12:54 AM   #53 
  - The transitional council apparently made a deal for Libyas oil profits  dameocrat67   Oct-21-11 01:03 AM   #56 
  - lol...Got a link?  ellisonz   Oct-21-11 02:51 AM   #73 
     - yep  dameocrat67   Oct-21-11 06:25 AM   #82 
        - Oh - an "alleged secret deal"  bhikkhu   Oct-21-11 09:18 AM   #93 
           - Well the oil wells are back working as of today, it was reported on MSNBC  Javaman   Oct-21-11 09:52 AM   #96 
              - Much of Libyan production was leased out in 2004-2006  bhikkhu   Oct-21-11 10:07 AM   #97 
                 - It was leased out under gaddafi...  Javaman   Oct-21-11 10:11 AM   #98 
                    - Nevertheless, the contracts stay the same  bhikkhu   Oct-21-11 10:31 AM   #104 
                       - Why would they change? It all depends on who becomes the new leader.  Javaman   Oct-21-11 10:50 AM   #106 
                          - " There will be a lot of tribal warfare, most of which will go unreported, to take their share..."  ellisonz   Oct-21-11 06:47 PM   #115 
                             - No, I have read extensively about that part of the world.  Javaman   Oct-22-11 12:16 AM   #127 
                                - Juan Cole: Those who expect Libya now to fragment ... are likely to be disappointed.  pampango   Oct-22-11 05:03 AM   #131 
                                   - did I ever say fragment?  Javaman   Oct-22-11 07:49 AM   #132 
  - Um, we went to Iraq initially based on lies. But we also went  sabrina 1   Oct-21-11 01:30 AM   #60 
  - "we aided a popular revolution in a way that minimized civilian deaths "  inna   Oct-21-11 01:39 AM   #62 
     - Less deaths than Castro comitted in Angola. He called it an internationalist war.  joshcryer   Oct-21-11 02:25 AM   #66 
        - Oy. Fucking. Vey.  inna   Oct-21-11 02:36 AM   #71 
  - funny thing...  unionworks   Oct-21-11 01:42 AM   #63 
  - I don't understand where we got the justification for continuing the conflict.  BlueCheese   Oct-21-11 01:52 AM   #64 
  - Because the people of libya rose up  Confusious   Oct-21-11 02:06 AM   #65 
  - The Iraqi people were certainly overjoyed to have Saddam gone.  BlueCheese   Oct-21-11 02:36 AM   #69 
  - _  CJCRANE   Oct-21-11 06:39 AM   #85 
  - I think the answer is obvious  bhikkhu   Oct-21-11 10:15 AM   #99 
  - I gave you the answer already  Confusious   Oct-21-11 02:39 PM   #109 
     - I see.  BlueCheese   Oct-21-11 03:19 PM   #113 
        - They asked for help, what don't you get about that?  Confusious   Oct-21-11 07:45 PM   #116 
           - Last word from me. Tired of all the fighting on DU.  BlueCheese   Oct-21-11 09:11 PM   #123 
              - Nice timing  Confusious   Oct-22-11 04:17 AM   #128 
  - Some of the people of Libya rose up and slaughtered some other people  eridani   Oct-21-11 02:36 AM   #70 
  - You make no sense. eom  Confusious   Oct-21-11 07:48 PM   #117 
  - Exactly  loyalsister   Oct-21-11 02:52 AM   #74 
  - It's the price tag: in terms of the number of our youth killed or maimed,  99th_Monkey   Oct-21-11 02:30 AM   #67 
  - 200 American civilians died in Qaddafi's attack on the Pan Am flight. How many Americans did  pnwmom   Oct-21-11 02:52 AM   #75 
  - I actually never supported our involvement in...  a la izquierda   Oct-21-11 03:10 AM   #76 
  - Then set your head at ease  The Traveler   Oct-21-11 03:14 AM   #77 
  - Was Saddam worth $2 trillion & 5000 American lives?  baldguy   Oct-21-11 05:41 AM   #78 
  - Simple really  MrDiaz   Oct-21-11 05:52 AM   #79 
  - Iraq is too big to fail. In Iraq the U.S. has put itself in permanent no win situation  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-21-11 06:17 AM   #80 
  - Fantastically dumb comparison.  trumad   Oct-21-11 06:22 AM   #81 
  - Saddam had never attacked the US, but a significant percentage of Americans  malaise   Oct-21-11 06:37 AM   #84 
  - How much US effort went into (and is still going into) taking down Saddam, vs. Qaddafi?  eShirl   Oct-21-11 07:06 AM   #86 
  - Because Invading Iraq was not the right way to acheive the removal of Saddam.  JoePhilly   Oct-21-11 07:14 AM   #87 
  - For me, it's Lockerbie and the murder of all those people. n/t  Greybnk48   Oct-21-11 09:25 AM   #94 
  - Because those fucking phony's don't care about war, only what they can use as a moral soapbox.  Township75   Oct-21-11 09:34 AM   #95 
  - Who is "people"?  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-21-11 10:23 AM   #100 
  - Yes too much downside when we are involved in changing other country's leaders.  dkf   Oct-21-11 08:56 PM   #121 
  - It's the occupation of Iraq that I opposed.  dawg   Oct-21-11 10:24 AM   #101 
  - because it's convenient  Puzzledtraveller   Oct-21-11 10:29 AM   #102 
  - I must have missed our enormous invasion of Libya. nt  Codeine   Oct-21-11 10:31 AM   #103 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-21-11 10:39 AM   #105 
  - I would guess that many other people see additional perspectives  LanternWaste   Oct-21-11 11:02 AM   #107 
  - Because 9-11 changed everything  sibelian   Oct-21-11 02:50 PM   #111 
  - Libya was a rebellion we supported, not an invasion  Motown_Johnny   Oct-21-11 07:49 PM   #118 
  - I don't get why people are apparently too thick to see the difference...  Spider Jerusalem   Oct-21-11 09:16 PM   #124 
  - It's easier to intentionally blur the distinction between Obama and Bush  Telly Savalas   Oct-21-11 09:54 PM   #126 
  - Oppression vs. liberation  liberal N proud   Oct-22-11 04:58 AM   #130 
 

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