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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 06:55 AM
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9. I think I did it in the garage once before, but I almost couldn't undo the lug nuts.
Using all my weight wasn't enough. I had to extend it to create extra leverage by linking the hex end to the lug remover bar. Then I jumped on it with all my weight.

If I hadn't had the extra tool it would have been a no go.
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  -Car companies getting rid of spare tires in some new cars Sherman A1  Oct-20-11 06:29 AM   #0 
  - Yep. I don't have any real world experience with flats on the road.  Dover   Oct-20-11 06:34 AM   #1 
  - the "spare" isn't really a spare tire, it's a small, temporary tire oft referred to as a donut.  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:18 AM   #18 
  - Thanks for the instructions. I don't doubt it's pretty easy and straight forward.  Dover   Oct-20-11 08:55 AM   #45 
  - There are still a few cars that offer a full size spare.  EOTE   Oct-20-11 09:16 AM   #49 
  - never loosen or tighten lug nuts with the wheel off the ground  Lance_Boyle   Oct-20-11 02:26 PM   #87 
  - I usually lift it enough so there's little weight on the tire, but the tire doesn't rotate freely.  EOTE   Oct-20-11 02:37 PM   #89 
  - Yeah the wheel turns anyway iirc.  dkf   Oct-20-11 03:35 PM   #94 
  - Volkswagen does  tammywammy   Oct-20-11 06:28 PM   #104 
     - Wish they all did so  Sherman A1   Oct-21-11 02:43 AM   #113 
  - it's a temporary small tire, unless you buy a real vehicle  snooper2   Oct-20-11 09:22 AM   #51 
     - A Dakota is a real vehicle?  Atman   Oct-20-11 06:22 PM   #103 
        - 235hp, 295lbs of torque factory, lights up the tires for 20 ft  snooper2   Oct-21-11 08:53 AM   #114 
  - Cost, weight, and space  JustABozoOnThisBus   Oct-20-11 03:54 PM   #95 
     - My car doesn't even have a trunk (or rear seats)  REP   Oct-20-11 06:16 PM   #102 
  - I'm not sure I am capable of changing a tire.  dkf   Oct-20-11 06:37 AM   #2 
  - Changing a tire is super-easy.  Codeine   Oct-20-11 06:44 AM   #7 
  - I think I did it in the garage once before, but I almost couldn't undo the lug nuts.  dkf   Oct-20-11 06:55 AM   #9 
     - Tire dealer probably used an automated wrench to tighten lug nuts too tight...  hlthe2b   Oct-20-11 07:55 AM   #14 
     - Lol. Funny thing is my ex is a mechanic but this never occurred to me.  dkf   Oct-20-11 11:57 AM   #69 
     - True  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 02:11 PM   #83 
     - When you get your tires changed or worked on next time.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-20-11 10:03 AM   #55 
        - Smart! Good to know. Thanks.  dkf   Oct-20-11 11:56 AM   #68 
        - Do not listen to that advice. It's VERY dangerous.  EOTE   Oct-20-11 03:12 PM   #93 
        - DO NOT ASK FOR YOUR LUG NUTS TO BE HAND TIGHTENED!!  EOTE   Oct-20-11 03:11 PM   #92 
           - You need 90 lb-ft torque for most lug nuts  jmowreader   Oct-20-11 04:35 PM   #99 
           - How the hell are you going to get 90lbs of torque using your hand?  EOTE   Oct-20-11 06:10 PM   #101 
              - Well if you weight 90 lbs and you lean down on the end of the wrench.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-21-11 10:57 AM   #117 
              - But that's not "hand tightening". Hand tightening is tightening with your hands.  EOTE   Oct-21-11 12:15 PM   #122 
                 - You and I define it differently.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-21-11 01:27 PM   #139 
              - "Hand tightening" means the technician uses a torque wrench  jmowreader   Oct-21-11 07:51 PM   #149 
           - Sorry about that. I should have clarified.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-21-11 10:47 AM   #115 
              - That's the correct procedure.  EOTE   Oct-21-11 12:17 PM   #123 
  - I'm female, 5'3" and am petite  Aerows   Oct-20-11 08:36 AM   #33 
  - I'm a little taller but just as petite, I imagine, and similarly  Lionessa   Oct-20-11 01:46 PM   #77 
     - You made me laugh  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-20-11 08:24 PM   #112 
  - Neither am I. That's why I have AAA. n/t  RebelOne   Oct-20-11 11:58 AM   #70 
  - It's not even a matter of capability.  Xithras   Oct-20-11 02:23 PM   #85 
  - Oh in a car, easy peachy  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-20-11 08:17 PM   #111 
  - My first boyfriend loved cars and he taught me how to  malaise   Oct-21-11 01:59 PM   #144 
  - I'm not a fan of this at all  MrScorpio   Oct-20-11 06:39 AM   #3 
  - It's just a cost/weight savings for the automaker  Blue_Tires   Oct-20-11 10:14 AM   #59 
  - Most of the flat tires I have experienced would not have been repaired by  hlthe2b   Oct-20-11 06:40 AM   #4 
  - Agreed  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 06:53 AM   #8 
  - BFD, My bicycle doesn't come equipped with a spare tire and you don't hear me whining  taterguy   Oct-20-11 06:43 AM   #5 
  - Does your bicycle do 60+mph on the highway?  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 07:04 AM   #10 
  - You will, if a tire-sealent-sealed tire blows out right next to you.  WinkyDink   Oct-20-11 07:08 AM   #12 
  - i do right now.  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:19 AM   #20 
  - Mine comes with a spare tube, which is basically a spare tire. nt  Javaman   Oct-20-11 08:40 AM   #35 
  - You are whining right now.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-20-11 10:05 AM   #56 
  - That's the SLIMEiest response from you ever. n/t  Gormy Cuss   Oct-20-11 10:42 AM   #62 
  - Oh FFS  taterguy   Oct-20-11 08:02 PM   #109 
  - I've had flats riding my bike. Not much fun.  backscatter712   Oct-20-11 01:20 PM   #74 
  - I think cars and bicycles are a little different.  Marrah_G   Oct-21-11 11:26 AM   #120 
  - I was told by a tire dealer to never use a hole repair sealant  GoCubsGo   Oct-20-11 06:44 AM   #6 
  - they don't really ruin the tire  hobbit709   Oct-20-11 08:28 AM   #30 
     - +1 nt  Javaman   Oct-20-11 08:40 AM   #37 
     - Good idea! eom  Kolesar   Oct-20-11 01:43 PM   #75 
  - Get it? A spare WILL be offered to you AT AN ADDITIONAL COST. Next: mats.  WinkyDink   Oct-20-11 07:06 AM   #11 
  - Floor mats have been always been extra.  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-20-11 08:39 AM   #34 
  - Followed by the steering wheel. n/t  MedicalAdmin   Oct-20-11 10:06 AM   #57 
  - Any negotiator can use that.  The Doctor.   Oct-20-11 01:53 PM   #80 
  - We went through this same shit back in the '70s and '80s  madokie   Oct-20-11 07:17 AM   #13 
  - Buy a spare, throw it in your trunk, problem solved.  NYC_SKP   Oct-20-11 07:57 AM   #15 
  - These days tires are probably one of the least likely things to fail  MindPilot   Oct-20-11 08:13 AM   #16 
  - I had a lot of failures for a while, but I was buying used tires.  Codeine   Oct-20-11 08:17 AM   #17 
  - i've never had one fail on it's own, but have had them go due to running over screws many a time.  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:24 AM   #23 
  - Really? They must not do road construction near where you live...  hlthe2b   Oct-20-11 09:49 AM   #54 
  - when i had my roof replaced, they were careful catching everything in tarps, nonetheless, i was find  dionysus   Oct-20-11 10:37 AM   #61 
  - Brakes, transmission, and a coil spring  Kolesar   Oct-20-11 01:46 PM   #76 
  - It was bad enough when they replaced the spare with those donut tires.  hobbit709   Oct-20-11 08:19 AM   #19 
  - this will date me, but they actually used to provide full size spares?  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:20 AM   #21 
     - My '93 Corolla has a full-sized spare.  Codeine   Oct-20-11 08:22 AM   #22 
     - damn. my buicks and fords never had a full size spare. it'd be nice. when i was broke in college, i  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:25 AM   #27 
     - My 04 jeep has a full sized spare n/t  n2doc   Oct-20-11 08:24 AM   #24 
     - The only car I owned that had a donut.  hobbit709   Oct-20-11 08:25 AM   #25 
     - so that time i had a donut on the rear wheel for 3 months was bad?  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:26 AM   #28 
        - among other things it fucks up your alignment.  hobbit709   Oct-20-11 08:30 AM   #31 
           - that was ok.. shortly after i eventually put a real tire on there, a drunk in a F-350 hit me head on  dionysus   Oct-20-11 08:40 AM   #36 
     - Yup,  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 08:26 AM   #29 
     - Yup,, that dates you.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-20-11 10:09 AM   #58 
     - A full size spare that was included in the tire rotation  Brother Buzz   Oct-20-11 11:33 AM   #65 
     - Oh yeah... and it was included in the rotation  jberryhill   Oct-20-11 02:07 PM   #81 
     - The old guy down the street that still runs bias ply tires on his '62 Falcon  Brother Buzz   Oct-21-11 11:12 AM   #118 
     - Not only that - if your other four wheels were alloy rims, often the wheel on the spare was, too.  mikeytherat   Oct-21-11 10:48 AM   #116 
  - oh the outrage  DainBramaged   Oct-20-11 08:25 AM   #26 
  - Come down to TX  hobbit709   Oct-20-11 08:36 AM   #32 
     - I understand your plight. Most dealers are ordering their inventory with spares  DainBramaged   Oct-20-11 08:44 AM   #40 
        - The closest to a new car I ever bought was a two year old model.  hobbit709   Oct-20-11 08:48 AM   #42 
           - This only started with the 2011 models for GM, simply check the trunk  DainBramaged   Oct-20-11 08:51 AM   #43 
  - you're JOKING! they are being cheap....  Divine Discontent   Oct-20-11 08:40 AM   #38 
  - Rather than skimp on essential equipment, they should just use the same efficient engines they use  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-20-11 08:41 AM   #39 
  - Folks, if the car doesn't have a spare, move on to the next one that does, it's that simple  DainBramaged   Oct-20-11 08:46 AM   #41 
  - And should the trend continue  LanternWaste   Oct-20-11 09:09 AM   #47 
     - +1, Agreed & Well Said!  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 09:10 AM   #48 
  - I haven't had to change a flat tire in almost 40 years.  RC   Oct-20-11 08:52 AM   #44 
  - Slime kit, gave it to my sweetie and beautiful daughter  DainBramaged   Oct-20-11 08:55 AM   #46 
  - is there a pump in that kit? I can't tell.  Lionessa   Oct-20-11 01:49 PM   #79 
  - Assuming that it will hold air  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 11:22 AM   #64 
  - Meh  DainBramaged   Oct-20-11 09:19 AM   #50 
  - You wouldn't believe the number of cars I see around the  MineralMan   Oct-20-11 09:22 AM   #52 
  - This is going to be a problem as highways deteriorate  FarCenter   Oct-20-11 09:45 AM   #53 
  - Agreed  Sherman A1   Oct-22-11 03:11 AM   #152 
  - More and more we're looking like the USSR during the cold war  Doremus   Oct-20-11 10:16 AM   #60 
  - When was the last time you had a flat tire you needed a spare for?  Bandit   Oct-20-11 10:48 AM   #63 
  - Two years ago  Gormy Cuss   Oct-20-11 11:52 AM   #67 
  - It really sucks that they don't give you a "full-size" tire anymore  maxrandb   Oct-20-11 11:48 AM   #66 
  - Indeed  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 02:36 PM   #88 
  - In over 45 years of driving I've had exactly  SheilaT   Oct-20-11 12:20 PM   #71 
  - I agree, technology accounts for something  DaveJ   Oct-20-11 02:10 PM   #82 
  - Yes. What hardly anyone here is bothering to pay attention to  SheilaT   Oct-20-11 03:02 PM   #90 
  - I think it also depends on if you can afford timely maintence  Marrah_G   Oct-21-11 12:34 PM   #127 
  - The lack of a spare was one of main reasons I stopped looking at Smarts when shopping  iris27   Oct-20-11 01:06 PM   #72 
  - bad idea,imho  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-20-11 01:09 PM   #73 
  - Roadside assistance will cost them.  The Doctor.   Oct-20-11 01:48 PM   #78 
  - Indeed  Sherman A1   Oct-20-11 07:16 PM   #106 
     - WIth lots of new construction, flats are a problem. In these economy? Maybe not.  SharonAnn   Oct-21-11 11:23 AM   #119 
  - A large percentage of drivers do not/cannot change a tire themselves, and will call roadside ass't.  Romulox   Oct-20-11 02:12 PM   #84 
  - Roadside assistance will gladly help you change your tire  JustABozoOnThisBus   Oct-20-11 03:57 PM   #96 
     - They also have compressors and patch kits. And the ability to tow. nt  Romulox   Oct-21-11 12:00 PM   #121 
        - Not really.  The Doctor.   Oct-21-11 03:39 PM   #145 
  - I had the impression it's to offer more trunk space, noticed it in the new BMW 5 series (F10) /nt  jakeXT   Oct-20-11 02:23 PM   #86 
  - I had a full-seized spare in my 2006 VW Beetle  tammywammy   Oct-20-11 06:30 PM   #105 
  - you now get a patch & sealant kit? how about an air compressor?  0rganism   Oct-20-11 03:08 PM   #91 
  - The sealant typically comes pressurized.  EOTE   Oct-20-11 04:13 PM   #97 
     - I had a can of that shit blow up inside my car once.  Atman   Oct-20-11 07:21 PM   #107 
  - That's how they get you.  Lucian   Oct-20-11 04:15 PM   #98 
  - I had no choice but to learn how to change a flat tire when I was stranded on a country road  in_cog_ni_to   Oct-20-11 04:47 PM   #100 
  - OML  LadyInAZ   Oct-20-11 07:51 PM   #108 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-20-11 08:09 PM   #110 
  - Has anyone mentioned the REAL reason for this? Fuel economy. nt  Romulox   Oct-21-11 12:18 PM   #124 
  - I think someone mentioned it in #39  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-21-11 12:26 PM   #125 
     - OK. That poster was on the right track, but misses the fact that consumers are free  Romulox   Oct-21-11 12:29 PM   #126 
        - How could you say they were missing the fact that ...  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-21-11 12:43 PM   #128 
           - Oh no. There are smaller cars still that are available. Consumers have largely rejected them  Romulox   Oct-21-11 12:45 PM   #129 
              - Do you bring up the metro because I posted about that car getting 52mpg?  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-21-11 12:53 PM   #130 
              - No. I bring it up as a cheap car with excellent MPG. That didn't sell.  Romulox   Oct-21-11 12:58 PM   #131 
                 - Just a little nit. The 1.3 liter Metro was a 4 banger.  EOTE   Oct-21-11 01:11 PM   #133 
                 - Thanks for the correction. The 3 cylinder GEO is still without peer in MPG, if  Romulox   Oct-21-11 01:17 PM   #135 
                 - Well, to be fair, they haven't been selling us efficient cars that anyone wants to drive...  EOTE   Oct-21-11 01:22 PM   #136 
                 - Do you know how many MPGs the same Cruze gets with the overseas engine?  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-21-11 01:24 PM   #137 
                    - Are you referring to the DI Diesel?  EOTE   Oct-21-11 01:30 PM   #140 
                    - 'atsa one matey.  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-21-11 05:36 PM   #147 
                    - No, but I believe they have a 40 MPG Cruze for NA already.  Romulox   Oct-21-11 01:47 PM   #143 
                       - I believe he's referring to the direct injected diesel.  EOTE   Oct-21-11 04:14 PM   #146 
                       - Interesting  Sherman A1   Oct-21-11 05:42 PM   #148 
                          - It sure would.  EOTE   Oct-22-11 09:54 AM   #153 
                       - This is a good point. A lot of stats for incredible overseas mileage are based on bad measurements.  JVS   Oct-21-11 08:04 PM   #151 
                 - Gas was not $4 a gallon when Metro was on the market. Chevy Aveo is the replacement and from what I  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-21-11 01:26 PM   #138 
              - The person who made the decision to stop selling the Chevy Metro in the US back in 2001?  JVS   Oct-21-11 08:00 PM   #150 
  - They've been doing this for a while in "economy cars"  Spider Jerusalem   Oct-21-11 01:01 PM   #132 
  - 'Vettes too.  JohnnyRingo   Oct-21-11 01:44 PM   #142 
  - I just yanked my spare tire and in that space I put a vegetable oil tank so I can drive without  garybeck   Oct-21-11 01:13 PM   #134 
  - When was the last time anyone actually dug the jack and spare out of the trunk?  JohnnyRingo   Oct-21-11 01:42 PM   #141 
     - A friend did so yesterday because he ran over  Sherman A1   Oct-22-11 04:10 PM   #154 

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