| 250. Double-blind with placebo? Here you go..... |
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Marijuana Smoking Associated With Minimal Changes In Driving Performance, Study Finds FRIDAY, 28 MAY 2010 13:00 PRESS RELEASE AUTOMOTIVE Hartford, CT—(ENEWSPF)—May 28, 2010 Subjects exhibit virtually identical psychomotor skills on a battery of driving simulator tests prior to and shortly after smoking marijuana, according to clinical trial data published in the March issue of the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs. Investigators from Hartford Hospital in Connecticut and the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine assessed the simulated driving performance of 85 subjects in a double-blind, placebo controlled trial. Volunteers responded to various simulated events associated with automobile crash risk — such as avoiding a driver who was entering an intersection illegally, deciding to stop or go through a changing traffic light, responding to the presence of emergency vehicles, avoiding colliding with a dog who entered into traffic, and maintaining safe driving during a secondary (in-the-car) auditory distraction. Subjects performed the tests sober and then again 30 minutes after smoking a single marijuana cigarette containing either 2.9 percent THC or zero THC (placebo). Investigators reported that volunteers performed virtually the same after smoking cannabis as they did sober and/or after consuming a placebo. "No differences were found during the baseline driving segment (and the) collision avoidance scenarios," authors reported. Investigators did note, "Participants receiving active marijuana decreased their speed more so than those receiving placebo cigarette during (the) distracted section of the drive." Authors hypothesized that subjects' reduction in speed on this task suggested that they may have been compensating for perceived impairment. " o other changes in driving performance were found," researchers concluded...
http://www.enewspf.com/index.php/latest-news/automotive... -
And here you go on some other research about cannabis, not limited to driving effects:
Scientists have actually known this since 1974, when the feds shut down a study at the University of Virginia when it showed conclusively that cannabinoids kill cancer.
Here are other studies for those who are interested:
Cannabis extract makes brain tumors shrink, halts growth of blood vessels http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/12088.php
Cannabinoids Inhibit Glioma Cell Invasion by Down-regulating Matrix Metalloproteinase-2 Expression http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/68/6/1945.abs ...
Briefing: Cannabis compounds fight prostate cancer http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17636-briefing-ca ...
Cannabis Compound May Stop Metastatic Breast Cancer http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20 ...
Cannabis chemicals tackle tumours http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/661458.stm
I know, I know, it's all just NORML propaganda
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| - Pot Smoking May More Than Double Crash Risk |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:16 PM |
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Yep, definitely a "no shit" moment. |
TheWraith |
Oct-16-11 10:19 PM |
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unnhhReck |
leftstreet |
Oct-16-11 10:21 PM |
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Saw a post to the contrary here few days ago. |
elleng |
Oct-16-11 10:21 PM |
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A post that showed a legitimate study on the matter? |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:26 PM |
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Yes |
elleng |
Oct-16-11 10:30 PM |
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No. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:37 PM |
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No. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:37 PM |
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mighty broad statement....depends on dosage, as in all drugs. |
spanone |
Oct-16-11 11:54 PM |
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Hardly. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:02 AM |
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you believe whatever you wish in your fantasy world. i offered you a link with proof. |
spanone |
Oct-18-11 02:04 PM |
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+1 Thanks! /nt |
GliderGuider |
Oct-17-11 01:54 PM |
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Here are 2 studies that suggests the risks are small |
BadDog40 |
Oct-17-11 12:18 AM |
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Thanks. The 'steady lateral position' sounds familiar. |
elleng |
Oct-17-11 11:38 AM |
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You have to go pretty far back then, to some small studies. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:23 PM |
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Really? |
demosincebirth |
Oct-16-11 10:22 PM |
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This "study" is a load of crap! |
Rageneau |
Oct-16-11 10:23 PM |
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I followed the link, and there is plenty to back it up. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:28 PM |
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What about this statement from the article: |
leftstreet |
Oct-16-11 10:30 PM |
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I love it when folks try to use a single line, as it means everything. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:33 PM |
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Driving while impaired is already illegal. Doesn't matter what you're fucked up on |
leftstreet |
Oct-16-11 10:35 PM |
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That's great. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:35 PM |
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When you are so effin baked you can't even remember |
FrodosPet |
Oct-16-11 11:41 PM |
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Smoking pot has no negative effect on driving. |
Rageneau |
Oct-16-11 11:55 PM |
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It's funny that research appears to show otherwise. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:57 PM |
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i don't know about that. in general yes, you'll most likey be more careful and not speed. however, |
dionysus |
Oct-17-11 05:39 PM |
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Smoking affects people differently. |
tridim |
Oct-16-11 10:24 PM |
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I know plenty of people who drink who say the same thing. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:27 PM |
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Try what again? I said I don't drive while stoned. |
tridim |
Oct-16-11 10:37 PM |
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I'm glad you don't. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:38 PM |
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Pot isn't heroin. |
tridim |
Oct-16-11 10:40 PM |
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Oct-16-11 10:40 PM |
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Who said "Pot is heroin?" |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:54 PM |
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You're acting like it is |
BadDog40 |
Oct-17-11 12:20 AM |
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Goodness. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:24 PM |
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Yes, just a reminder: DON'T smoke pot then drive. Also, don't use a heat gun as a blow dryer. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-16-11 10:24 PM |
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Yup. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:54 PM |
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What about using rubbing alcohol instead of vodka? |
Taverner |
Oct-17-11 05:20 PM |
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JFC... |
WillyT |
Oct-16-11 10:26 PM |
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That's right, bang your head when reality hits. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:41 PM |
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No, I Bang My Head When Teh Stupid Succeed |
WillyT |
Oct-16-11 11:04 PM |
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That might make sense if you cared about "Teh Stupid." |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:26 PM |
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I call bullshit! |
markpkessinger |
Oct-16-11 10:27 PM |
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So this expert says that the preponderance of evidence agrees with this study. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:44 PM |
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rec but you've been neg-recced to zero. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Oct-16-11 10:27 PM |
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Yeah, it's almost as if I posted something that says vaccines prevent disease. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:30 PM |
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oh oh... now you've done it! |
Liberal_in_LA |
Oct-16-11 10:34 PM |
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Let me be honest. I've smoked MJ and drove a car. I became a better driver. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-16-11 10:29 PM |
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Post to that effect here a few days ago. |
elleng |
Oct-16-11 10:31 PM |
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"Dude! I can drink a fifth of Jim Beam, and boy can I drive a straight line afterward!" |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:37 PM |
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Means you're probably an alcoholic. |
elleng |
Oct-16-11 10:38 PM |
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Perhaps. Certainly, it means anyone claiming that is an idiot. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:39 PM |
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Then please don't drive at all. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:31 PM |
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How do you know? |
Swede |
Oct-16-11 10:34 PM |
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I dunno about this. I feel more "impaired" after a single beer than I do after |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-16-11 10:29 PM |
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That may be true, but that's not the point of the study. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:31 PM |
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FWIW, every last person I know who wants it legalized (and that's no small number) |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-16-11 10:46 PM |
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I stated that in the OP. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:49 PM |
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If you don't want OTHER people's opinion or perspective, you perhaps |
kestrel91316 |
Oct-17-11 01:48 PM |
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Is that your response whenever you push something completely baseless... |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:57 PM |
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Will eating a bag of Doritos bring the risk back down to normal? |
Fire Walk With Me |
Oct-16-11 10:31 PM |
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+100 |
FirstLight |
Oct-16-11 10:45 PM |
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:) |
Monk06 |
Oct-16-11 10:44 PM |
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I am pro-legalization and anti-impaired driving, too. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-16-11 10:44 PM |
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Yup. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:48 PM |
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On the flip side, to be fair, this "what about stoned drivers" is clearly a talking point for |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-16-11 10:54 PM |
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Indeed. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:56 PM |
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Like I said, impaired driving is already against the law. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-16-11 10:58 PM |
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There should not be insurmountable challenges to enforcement. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:00 PM |
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They have to do with the topic because it means we agree that the issue is already settled. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-16-11 11:05 PM |
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Well, we do need to know what risks stoned providers provide. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:24 PM |
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Because, like I said, it has come up as a big anti-legalization talking point. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-17-11 12:04 AM |
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Oct-17-11 12:05 AM |
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True. |
Rageneau |
Oct-17-11 01:23 AM |
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I agree. Just because the drug war is bullshit and marijuana should be legal |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-17-11 02:08 PM |
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Oh please.... |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 10:45 PM |
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Oct-16-11 10:47 PM |
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Bottom line: Inconclusive... |
Joe Fields |
Oct-16-11 10:50 PM |
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Only if one chooses to go down the road of science is just "theory." |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:53 PM |
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It would take blind faith to believe |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 10:56 PM |
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Oct-16-11 10:59 PM |
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Whose evidence? |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:04 PM |
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Oct-16-11 11:33 PM |
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Seriously? |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:39 PM |
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Oct-16-11 11:42 PM |
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Other studies point the other way. |
Joe Fields |
Oct-16-11 11:42 PM |
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That's not unusual for science. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:44 PM |
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these studies reappear every so often |
mitchtv |
Oct-16-11 10:53 PM |
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Single studies don't negate much. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:57 PM |
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Can you find some studies analyzing driving habits of med marijuana users? |
leftstreet |
Oct-16-11 11:01 PM |
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Can you offer any other red herrings? |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:29 PM |
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You're high! |
leftstreet |
Oct-17-11 12:21 AM |
#130 |
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Not high, just incredibly ignorant. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:07 PM |
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Yeah, that must be it. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:15 PM |
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Considering that your "scientific knowledge" and "debate skills" consist entirely of smilies. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:16 PM |
#179 |
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Uh huh. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:18 PM |
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You've spent plenty of time responding with snark and smileys. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:24 PM |
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Don't drive high (on anything) and you'll be fine. |
Throd |
Oct-16-11 10:55 PM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:57 PM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 10:57 PM |
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Yep no accidents happen if your straight. Right. |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 12:51 PM |
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And... |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:04 PM |
#167 |
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Do you shave and text with your eyes closed? |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 01:10 PM |
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Do you? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:34 PM |
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Conversation doesn't work that way. You need to answer first. |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 04:36 PM |
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From the report: |
SHRED |
Oct-16-11 11:01 PM |
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Thank you. n/t |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:07 PM |
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ur welcome |
SHRED |
Oct-16-11 11:28 PM |
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It also doubles Ding Dong consumption |
CreekDog |
Oct-16-11 11:02 PM |
#61 |
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OP as Drug Warrior propaganda? "this study...was not designed to capture and effect." |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:25 PM |
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The only propaganda being offered... |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:27 PM |
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As I asked before.... |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:29 PM |
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In other words.... |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:30 PM |
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THERE IS NO FUCKING EVIDENCE. |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:32 PM |
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ROTFLMAO! |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:34 PM |
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Oh, isn't that cute? |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:40 PM |
#93 |
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I get it. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:45 PM |
#102 |
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In other words, you haven't provided anything even approaching evidence. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:08 PM |
#170 |
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In other words, evidence does not matter to you. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:19 PM |
#184 |
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Says the ignoramus who constantly screams "evidence!" while not providing a shred of it. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:22 PM |
#188 |
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Have you written USA Today to tell them that this story is about a fictional study? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:37 PM |
#198 |
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It's a few people who are making assertions with nothing to back up their assertions. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:50 PM |
#208 |
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Say what? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:54 PM |
#212 |
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Exactly. NT |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:58 PM |
#216 |
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Oh, that is rich. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:59 PM |
#218 |
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So...the concepts of "cause and effect" aren't familiar to you? |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:32 PM |
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I'm quite familiar. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:37 PM |
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You're asserting cause and effect from studies that did not capture cause and effect. |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:39 PM |
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Oct-16-11 11:50 PM |
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You don't even seem to have the basic scientific literacy to understand how "studies" work. |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:57 PM |
#117 |
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Says someone who has shown ZERO scientific literacy, thus fan. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:58 PM |
#119 |
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What science? Please, cite the studies that this 'study' references. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-17-11 05:11 PM |
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Uh oh... |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:28 PM |
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Well, when that's shown, why shouldn't it be pointed out? |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:31 PM |
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Your argument is similar to the Queen of Hearts: First the Verdict, THEN the trial, eh? |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:33 PM |
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Only if you're ignoring, well, almost everything. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:35 PM |
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I don't do "Faith Based" reasoning. Link to a scientific study, or it didn't happen. |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:36 PM |
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The article links to one, which links to several. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:38 PM |
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Right. But the scientists aren't asserting what you Drug Warriors are. That's the problem. nt |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:39 PM |
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"Drug Warriors." |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:44 PM |
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Right. DU is the home away from home for Drug Warriors and other fascists. |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:46 PM |
#103 |
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In other words, your only response to science is a personal attack. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:48 PM |
#104 |
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Nonsense. I'm still waiting for you to digest and respond to the "cause and effect" issue. |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:49 PM |
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You don't even know what that means. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:50 PM |
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You are very lazy, for a provocateur. Your schtick isn't even interesting. |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:55 PM |
#113 |
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That's funny. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:56 PM |
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The only link the article goes to the website of the Governors Highway Safety Association |
Occulus |
Oct-17-11 02:40 PM |
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It's only been |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:34 PM |
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Says the guy who lives in fantasy land. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:36 PM |
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I don't even smoke pot, and I wish |
Aerows |
Oct-16-11 11:28 PM |
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So do the rest of us. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:32 PM |
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I'm 100% serious |
Aerows |
Oct-16-11 11:44 PM |
#100 |
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So am I. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:49 PM |
#106 |
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Is it frustrating to throw a reasoned response down a black hole? |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:58 PM |
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Oct-17-11 12:00 AM |
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That's rich, coming from you. |
Rageneau |
Oct-17-11 01:51 AM |
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No, I've noted what the science shows. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:29 PM |
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You know |
Aerows |
Oct-17-11 05:41 PM |
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I wasn't interested in "rule-breaking" etc. |
Aerows |
Oct-17-11 01:51 PM |
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Notice the OP isn't engaging in any reasoned discussion? Unsubtle Flame bait. nt |
Romulox |
Oct-16-11 11:38 PM |
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Prove it. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:41 PM |
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Oct-17-11 01:11 PM |
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But yet declares himself the winner |
ohheckyeah |
Oct-16-11 11:42 PM |
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This is not about winning. |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:51 PM |
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Big pharma thanks you for your contribution. |
JTFrog |
Oct-16-11 11:54 PM |
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YOU WIN POINTLESS RED HERRING POST OF THE NIGHT! |
HuckleB |
Oct-16-11 11:55 PM |
#114 |
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Enjoy. |
JTFrog |
Oct-17-11 12:19 AM |
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... |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-17-11 01:57 PM |
#215 |
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Not surprising. |
Zoeisright |
Oct-17-11 12:01 AM |
#122 |
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No, it's not exactly surprising. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:03 AM |
#124 |
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I figured someone of your scientific "knowledge" would consider that to be "results". |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:13 PM |
#175 |
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I see that you have a little bit of knowledge. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:16 PM |
#180 |
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Please demonstrate your knowledge and credentials. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:19 PM |
#183 |
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No one has bothered to enter into a debate here. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:42 PM |
#203 |
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Your debate style is exactly this: |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:48 PM |
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Get a mirror. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:53 PM |
#210 |
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And once again you're only capable of responding with smilies. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 01:57 PM |
#213 |
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And you've offered more? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:58 PM |
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Ahhh, so you admit that you've provided nothing. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 02:05 PM |
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i bet they drank lots of water and breathed plenty of oxygen as well |
frylock |
Oct-17-11 03:07 PM |
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Things that I've done while driving stoned... |
cherokeeprogressive |
Oct-17-11 12:34 AM |
#131 |
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Anecdotes are meaningless. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:27 PM |
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See post #285. I posted it in the wrong place. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Oct-17-11 08:01 PM |
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Maybe I should have added the sarcasm smiley? |
cherokeeprogressive |
Oct-17-11 07:59 PM |
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dupe |
RainDog |
Oct-17-11 12:40 AM |
#132 |
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I wish the OP would contribute something meaningful |
BadDog40 |
Oct-17-11 12:50 AM |
#133 |
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You've yet to offer anything useful. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:26 PM |
#144 |
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And it may not. |
Iggo |
Oct-17-11 01:07 AM |
#134 |
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But the evidence indicates that it probably does. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:28 PM |
#147 |
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...unless it doesn't. |
Iggo |
Oct-17-11 12:56 PM |
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Oct-17-11 01:00 PM |
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Back in my younger (read: stupider) days we all drove around as |
Faux pas |
Oct-17-11 01:16 AM |
#135 |
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Tax it and Legalize it stop the weed prohibition. |
sarcasmo |
Oct-17-11 11:40 AM |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:26 PM |
#145 |
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LOL |
JuniperLea |
Oct-17-11 11:41 AM |
#140 |
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Oops... Sacred Cow time. |
LanternWaste |
Oct-17-11 11:46 AM |
#141 |
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+1 |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:28 PM |
#148 |
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+2 nt |
Codeine |
Oct-17-11 01:17 PM |
#181 |
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This is Bullspin again... |
DreamSmoker |
Oct-17-11 12:29 PM |
#149 |
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It's unfortunate that NORML chooses to act like an anti-vax organization when it comes to this. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:31 PM |
#150 |
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More of that supposedly biased view of NORML for ya |
robdogbucky |
Oct-17-11 12:45 PM |
#153 |
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Yup. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:48 PM |
#157 |
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More from that same page, care to read it? |
robdogbucky |
Oct-17-11 12:47 PM |
#155 |
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Again, small, self-selected studies are meaningless. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 12:49 PM |
#158 |
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'Aware of their impairment'? |
randome |
Oct-17-11 12:45 PM |
#154 |
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I used to drive stoned regularly when I was young and stupid. |
Xithras |
Oct-17-11 12:34 PM |
#151 |
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Oh, really? I think this new data is being supported more and more |
robdogbucky |
Oct-17-11 12:41 PM |
#152 |
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'a negative impact on decision time and trajectory' |
randome |
Oct-17-11 12:51 PM |
#160 |
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I have to drink and smoke pot to tolerate most of you inept drivers |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 12:47 PM |
#156 |
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Yeah? |
randome |
Oct-17-11 12:55 PM |
#161 |
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You're that crazy driver I see weaving all over the road! |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 12:59 PM |
#164 |
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That was a joke. |
randome |
Oct-17-11 01:39 PM |
#200 |
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I haven't smoked in years, but my experience I drove the speed limit |
B Calm |
Oct-17-11 12:58 PM |
#163 |
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So you think an anecdote outweighs actual research? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:01 PM |
#166 |
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I'm a professional driver. I drive approx. 600 miles everyday. Don't |
B Calm |
Oct-17-11 01:13 PM |
#173 |
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No, they're not the same. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:14 PM |
#176 |
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Sitting high above the ground and I see people doing much worse things. I have |
B Calm |
Oct-17-11 01:20 PM |
#185 |
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So you know what everyone has ingested before driving, because you're above the ground? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:38 PM |
#199 |
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No, but I know when someone is getting a BJ |
B Calm |
Oct-18-11 01:27 PM |
#256 |
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I'm sure if MJ were legalized it would be illegal to drive while under |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 01:24 PM |
#191 |
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Well, I have a few friends who believe that driving while stoned is fine and dandy. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:40 PM |
#201 |
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No one should drive under the influence of anything period. |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 04:33 PM |
#230 |
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Rational statements are not readily absorbed by anti marijuana |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 01:21 PM |
#186 |
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Where are these anti-marijuana advocates? |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:36 PM |
#197 |
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Just the fact you ask where they are like there are none |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 04:35 PM |
#231 |
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Or people who text and shave while driving |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 01:13 PM |
#174 |
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B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T! I know for a fact, that report is total |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-17-11 01:06 PM |
#168 |
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What an intelligent to response to information that goes against your preconceived notions. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:15 PM |
#177 |
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Thank you. They aren't "preconceived notions." It's from EXPERIENCE. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-17-11 01:29 PM |
#193 |
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The plural of anecdote is not evidence. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:33 PM |
#195 |
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reading through your posts here, you wouldn't know an intelligent response.. |
frylock |
Oct-17-11 03:43 PM |
#229 |
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imo |
negativenihil |
Oct-17-11 01:21 PM |
#187 |
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Of course. That potent the ops motive here. |
RegieRocker |
Oct-17-11 01:25 PM |
#192 |
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Yup. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:46 PM |
#204 |
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Thats total Bullshit with a capital B |
madokie |
Oct-17-11 01:23 PM |
#189 |
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No one was talking about you. |
randome |
Oct-17-11 01:41 PM |
#202 |
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there's a lot of things people can do, and do well stoned. but to say it doesn't affect people at |
dionysus |
Oct-18-11 07:50 AM |
#246 |
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Since some folks think this is all made up, here's a short list of studies... |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 01:31 PM |
#194 |
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Has anyone done a full double-blind study? |
backscatter712 |
Oct-17-11 01:46 PM |
#205 |
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There is only one reason people smoke pot. |
randome |
Oct-17-11 02:08 PM |
#222 |
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So everything that alters your mind negatively effects driving ability? |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 03:20 PM |
#227 |
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No, of course not. |
randome |
Oct-17-11 03:29 PM |
#228 |
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And caffeine can also positively affect one's driving ability. |
EOTE |
Oct-17-11 04:35 PM |
#232 |
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Alcohol alters your mind too. And alcohol DUIs kill thousands each year. Yet it's legal... |
backscatter712 |
Oct-17-11 10:47 PM |
#245 |
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Double-blind with placebo? Here you go..... |
robdogbucky |
Oct-18-11 11:17 AM |
#250 |
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That's what I was looking for! n/t |
backscatter712 |
Oct-18-11 11:18 AM |
#251 |
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Thanks for this. |
Ignis |
Oct-18-11 07:00 PM |
#258 |
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Goodbye. |
HuckleB |
Oct-17-11 02:02 PM |
#219 |
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BYE! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Oct-17-11 02:06 PM |
#221 |
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Hey, you started it. |
Iggo |
Oct-17-11 04:39 PM |
#234 |
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Thank you for showing your true intentions with this post. |
Rex |
Oct-17-11 05:48 PM |
#241 |
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Has there ever been a poll? |
Common Sense Party |
Oct-18-11 11:22 AM |
#253 |
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This study does fly in the face of other prior studies showing the exact opposite. Just sayin' nt |
99th_Monkey |
Oct-17-11 02:24 PM |
#224 |
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No, don't smoke and drive |
Taverner |
Oct-17-11 05:19 PM |
#236 |
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It is a narcotic, so no shit. |
Rex |
Oct-17-11 05:46 PM |
#240 |
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yeah and? |
SomethingFishy |
Oct-17-11 08:34 PM |
#244 |
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Kick |
Scurrilous |
Oct-18-11 10:52 AM |
#247 |
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You just had to kick this thread to the top again, |
randome |
Oct-18-11 11:26 AM |
#254 |
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Marijuana is a magical drug. It has 100% POSITIVE effects, 0 negative. |
Common Sense Party |
Oct-18-11 11:12 AM |
#248 |
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Yes, it's like aspirin , only better. It does everything and takes the stains out of carpets too! |
Safetykitten |
Oct-18-11 11:15 AM |
#249 |
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New Shimmer is a floor wax! |
Common Sense Party |
Oct-18-11 11:20 AM |
#252 |
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In the new "Bong" applicator! |
Safetykitten |
Oct-18-11 11:28 AM |
#255 |
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I should have read first |
hughee99 |
Oct-18-11 07:12 PM |
#261 |
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I can't believe this thread is still here. |
kayakjohnny |
Oct-18-11 07:01 PM |
#259 |
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There are NO negative consequences to smoking marijuana, |
hughee99 |
Oct-18-11 07:11 PM |
#260 |