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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-11 02:11 PM
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49. Do they have a legal right to be there?
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  -TROUBLE: Protesters Won't Be Able to Bring Sleeping Bags Back Into Park After Cleanup WilliamPitt  Oct-13-11 12:56 PM   #0 
  - THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!  tblue   Oct-13-11 12:58 PM   #1 
  - People keep typing that in all caps - but do you really think Bloomberg gives a flying fuck?  TBF   Oct-13-11 04:00 PM   #64 
     - F 1% BLOOMBERG!  Amonester   Oct-14-11 12:00 AM   #82 
  - worse:  dana_b   Oct-13-11 01:00 PM   #2 
  - the only thing left to do is march, then  grasswire   Oct-13-11 01:04 PM   #3 
  - Nope. The only thing left to do is sit down  me b zola   Oct-13-11 01:15 PM   #11 
  - To paraphrase a line from "Casablanca,"  lapislzi   Oct-13-11 01:24 PM   #16 
  - :high five:  me b zola   Oct-13-11 01:29 PM   #21 
  - Yep. Don't let them derail. Sit down.  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 01:26 PM   #18 
     - Mario Savio's words have been ringing in my head since this has begun  me b zola   Oct-13-11 01:34 PM   #26 
        - Bloomberg just turned back the clock 40 plus years..  workinclasszero   Oct-13-11 01:49 PM   #33 
  - Geaux Saints :)  Aerows   Oct-13-11 03:17 PM   #57 
  - Yep.  SammyWinstonJack   Oct-13-11 01:07 PM   #5 
  - Good ol' fashioned 1% plan:  Jon Ace   Oct-13-11 01:05 PM   #4 
  - Bloomberg to OWS: "Out you dirty HIPPIES!!!"  durablend   Oct-13-11 01:09 PM   #6 
  - It is the owners of the land who are making these rules, not Bloomberg  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 01:16 PM   #12 
     - The way it works in this country (or is supposed to work) is that  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 01:46 PM   #31 
     - Then you we have absolutely nothing to worry about, right?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 02:01 PM   #41 
     - Of course not. But, as Andrew Jackson pointed out many, many  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 02:03 PM   #44 
        - The police will simply arrest those who refuse to leave  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 02:10 PM   #48 
           - Ah, so much is hidden in your adverb 'simply'. Again, I put the  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 02:12 PM   #50 
              - Their call, but they lack any legal standing to stay  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 03:56 PM   #61 
     - Which country are you in? Certainly not the USA  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 03:54 PM   #60 
     - And Bloomberg's girlfriend is a board member of the owner of the property n/t  markpkessinger   Oct-13-11 02:13 PM   #53 
  - Same thing is happening here in Denver.  originalpckelly   Oct-13-11 01:11 PM   #7 
  - Dumb.  tk2kewl   Oct-13-11 01:14 PM   #10 
  - And to demonstrate nationwide that the police are nothing but their lapdogs.  Fire Walk With Me   Oct-13-11 01:25 PM   #17 
  - Myself and another poster had this called yesterday  me b zola   Oct-13-11 01:12 PM   #8 
  - When you hold a protest on privately owned land, the owners of the land get to set the rules  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 01:14 PM   #9 
  - Last time I checked, possession was 9/10 of the law. So exactly  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 01:35 PM   #27 
     - A valid property deed trumps 'possession'  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 01:53 PM   #35 
     - I'm sure the NYPD is 'capable' of clearing out the park (although  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 02:00 PM   #39 
     - They don't have to arrest everyone at the same time  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 02:03 PM   #43 
        - Again, your word choice is more than a bit troubling. So I guess  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 02:10 PM   #47 
        - Do they have a legal right to be there?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 02:11 PM   #49 
           - Of course. Are you saying they do not have a legal right to be  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 02:12 PM   #52 
              - Our protestors do not have a legal right to be there. Occupying it is civil disobediance  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 03:59 PM   #63 
              - Is it publicly owned or privately owned property?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-14-11 12:24 AM   #84 
        - 'Mock and undermine'-----Patrick Howley of American Spectator  Kingofalldems   Oct-14-11 09:28 AM   #87 
     - As usual, property rights "trump" human rights.  lapislzi   Oct-13-11 02:03 PM   #42 
     - He doesn't like OWS  Kingofalldems   Oct-13-11 03:10 PM   #56 
        - Tough. It's happening whether he likes it or not.  lapislzi   Oct-13-11 03:20 PM   #58 
     - You sound pretty happy about that.  WilliamPitt   Oct-13-11 02:04 PM   #45 
     - No, I am just stating the facts. That tends to upset people who try to ignore reality  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-13-11 02:12 PM   #51 
        - Facts they may be. No one's disputing the obligation of the police  lapislzi   Oct-13-11 02:17 PM   #54 
        - I love that story  Kingofalldems   Oct-13-11 05:40 PM   #72 
     - But it doesn't suspend the Constitution, sorry.  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 02:09 PM   #46 
        - What consitutional issues are there with private property owners restricting access?  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 04:25 PM   #69 
           - I read about a week ago, that there was an agreement  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 04:40 PM   #70 
              - Interesting NYT discussion of the agreement  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 10:03 PM   #74 
                 - Thanks. Think Progress put up a link to the last lawyers' letter  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 10:16 PM   #76 
                    - Fixed. Here is the pdf:  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 10:23 PM   #78 
     - What law school did you go to when they taught this "9/10s" stuff?  former9thward   Oct-13-11 03:23 PM   #59 
     - You literalists will friggin' drive me crazy. The " '9/10s' stuff" (to quote you)  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 11:17 PM   #79 
     - Total Nonsense  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 03:56 PM   #62 
     - Please see post #79 - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Oct-13-11 11:21 PM   #80 
        - Some of my sensitivities on this are based on problems I have had with trespassers  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 11:58 PM   #81 
     - So if you and 8 friends walk into my house.... it becomes yours?  Cid_B   Oct-13-11 10:21 PM   #77 
     - "Last time" you "checked," huh? Gosh, you've been around a while! Since 1938, at least:  apocalypsehow   Oct-14-11 12:17 AM   #83 
  - Bloomberg and Kelly are playing 'Good Cop, Bad Cop."  formercia   Oct-13-11 01:20 PM   #13 
  - the either move the protest to in front of the charging bull  rdking647   Oct-13-11 01:21 PM   #14 
  - Hey mayor! Why don't you use all those police to arrest the bankers who fucked over so many?  Fire Walk With Me   Oct-13-11 01:22 PM   #15 
  - this may stop people from sleeping there but the marches will continue  Gin   Oct-13-11 01:28 PM   #20 
  - This could eventually get to a stand-off point. REMAIN NON-VIOLENT!  Hosnon   Oct-13-11 01:28 PM   #19 
  - I knew it was a scam  workinclasszero   Oct-13-11 01:31 PM   #22 
  - Camp in Central Park.  mmonk   Oct-13-11 01:31 PM   #23 
  - Bloomberg doesn't even know the trouble he's asking for.  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 01:33 PM   #25 
  - Too far away and the city has curfews and rules  csziggy   Oct-14-11 12:30 AM   #86 
  - Looks like the 1% has had enough...  SoapBox   Oct-13-11 01:32 PM   #24 
  - Koch's must've gotten the conference call in  durablend   Oct-13-11 01:43 PM   #30 
  - K&R  vets74   Oct-13-11 01:35 PM   #28 
  - From the link:  workinclasszero   Oct-13-11 01:43 PM   #29 
  - They can forbid away but they cannot enforce so they will lose. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 01:47 PM   #32 
     - What will block enforcement?  ProgressiveProfessor   Oct-13-11 04:03 PM   #66 
        - Numbers could do it. About the only way the NYPD or anyone else  EFerrari   Oct-13-11 04:42 PM   #71 
  - Chase Manhattan Plaza, at Pine and Williams, is another all-masonry urban hardscape  FarCenter   Oct-13-11 01:51 PM   #34 
  - This was inevitable.  Renew Deal   Oct-13-11 01:55 PM   #36 
  - I hope the protestors dont give up because of this  marions ghost   Oct-13-11 01:55 PM   #37 
  - Rich mayor tells protesters: "Have a Koch and a smile."  Fire Walk With Me   Oct-13-11 01:56 PM   #38 
  - He'll probably give out coupons for Koch products  durablend   Oct-13-11 02:01 PM   #40 
  - Sounds like Wisconsin  marked50   Oct-13-11 02:56 PM   #55 
  - I thought it was a PRIVATE park? Does the mayor have jurisdiction?  Dover   Oct-13-11 04:02 PM   #65 
  - Call Mayor Bloomberg at 212-NEW-YORK ( 212-639-9675 ) -  TBF   Oct-13-11 04:03 PM   #67 
  - Gosh, guess everyone will just have to sleep in the streets then.  Zorra   Oct-13-11 04:06 PM   #68 
  - I like your thinking.  Jamastiene   Oct-13-11 10:14 PM   #75 
  - I hope OWS stays in the park and doesn't leave.  TNLib   Oct-13-11 05:43 PM   #73 
  - It's called CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE for a reason  Hugabear   Oct-14-11 12:28 AM   #85 
  - There was an article about a girl who designed a coat that was also a sleeping bag.  BeHereNow   Oct-14-11 10:00 AM   #88 

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