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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-11 08:32 PM
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35. Total fail
we haven't done it right so we shouldn't even try?

you don't gain experience by sitting around.

here will never be a species that makes a wonderful society from day 1. Even if we were all without racism, greed, hatred, there would still be problems and only experience would fix those problems.

You don't magically wake up one day and have the wisdom to make a society.

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  -Human beings are not ready to run the world Cyrano  Oct-12-11 08:19 AM   #0 
  - I agree and yet humanity continues to reproduce and multiply endlessly. n/t  Shagbark Hickory   Oct-12-11 08:22 AM   #1 
  - Yes. Tragic, isn't it? n/t  queenjane   Oct-12-11 08:26 AM   #2 
  - and our FAILS will get bigger and worse  stuntcat   Oct-12-11 08:52 AM   #8 
  - I have nothing to add except to agree with you  NV Whino   Oct-12-11 08:26 AM   #3 
  - Your premise is not true.  RevStPatrick   Oct-12-11 08:27 AM   #4 
  - Tribalism worked fine with a limited population.  StandingInLeftField   Oct-12-11 08:31 AM   #5 
     - Why are you assuming tribalism = primitive?  RevStPatrick   Oct-12-11 10:43 AM   #25 
     - I'm not positing that "tribal" equals "primitive"  StandingInLeftField   Oct-12-11 01:52 PM   #31 
     - Limited population is a benefit of tribalism. nt  greyl   Oct-12-11 10:57 AM   #27 
        - But to get there these days you have to start small...  StandingInLeftField   Oct-12-11 01:53 PM   #32 
  - Agree with you about capitalism, disagree about state of humanity.  Starry Messenger   Oct-12-11 08:44 AM   #6 
  - You're Starrier than I.  Dogtown   Oct-12-11 08:57 AM   #9 
  - What else does this system, capitalism, reward?  Starry Messenger   Oct-12-11 09:24 AM   #15 
     - Those of us *not* sociopaths  Dogtown   Oct-12-11 09:56 AM   #17 
        - Don't have the drive, or are we locked out of deciding the course of our lives?  Starry Messenger   Oct-12-11 10:05 AM   #19 
        - I believe we are of an age.  Dogtown   Oct-12-11 10:28 AM   #21 
           - What can I say?  Starry Messenger   Oct-12-11 10:43 AM   #24 
              - Same to you.  Dogtown   Oct-12-11 10:55 AM   #26 
        - The Neaderthals were quite sophisticated.  hunter   Oct-12-11 11:41 AM   #28 
  - The key word here is "tribe"  StandingInLeftField   Oct-12-11 09:07 AM   #12 
     - I use tribe as a specific type of social order.  Starry Messenger   Oct-12-11 09:32 AM   #16 
        - If we as a species could figure out how to stop  StandingInLeftField   Oct-12-11 02:02 PM   #33 
           - Behavior scientists have shown that our "nature" is a product of our environment.  Starry Messenger   Oct-12-11 02:44 PM   #34 
              - The problem with evolutionary change is that it's slow  StandingInLeftField   Oct-13-11 06:38 AM   #40 
                 - I disagree.  Starry Messenger   Oct-13-11 07:56 AM   #41 
  - Which do you want, to run the world or a civilization?  The2ndWheel   Oct-12-11 08:45 AM   #7 
  - Shouldn't be.  Dogtown   Oct-12-11 09:00 AM   #10 
  - Agree that humans are not ready to stabilize their population.  azul   Oct-12-11 09:05 AM   # 
  - Anarchy and communism haven't existed.  DireStrike   Oct-12-11 09:05 AM   #11 
  - All we have to do is rid our World of The Current Baggers and GOPers  opihimoimoi   Oct-12-11 09:20 AM   #13 
  - We shouldn't want to run the world, but live harmony with it. That's the problem.  Avalux   Oct-12-11 09:21 AM   #14 
  - Caretaker isn't a good word for it either  The2ndWheel   Oct-12-11 10:36 AM   #22 
  - Hunters and gatherers...  randome   Oct-12-11 10:40 AM   #23 
  - We'll make great pets  NightWatcher   Oct-12-11 10:05 AM   #18 
  - My kitty was convinced that we WERE his pets.  anneboleyn   Oct-12-11 08:41 PM   #36 
  - I completely agree  get the red out   Oct-12-11 10:26 AM   #20 
  - I have a different view  FreeJoe   Oct-12-11 12:11 PM   #29 
  - All civilizations end. Some by falling, others by becoming a different one.  Taverner   Oct-12-11 12:20 PM   #30 
  - India, murdered by British colonialism. Colonialism has destroyed some civilizations as well...  anneboleyn   Oct-12-11 08:46 PM   #37 
     - And the Brits didn't understand why India was unhappy being part of the Raj  Taverner   Oct-12-11 09:06 PM   #38 
  - Total fail  Confusious   Oct-12-11 08:32 PM   #35 
  - The way things are going, we humans are about to disappear.  Amonester   Oct-12-11 09:31 PM   #39 
  - Turn it over to the fish RIGHT FUCKING NOW.  pintobean   Oct-13-11 08:00 AM   #42 

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