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68. YES!!!!! Dolphins are amazing mammals.
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  -Should dolphin/whale killers be prosecuted as murderers? Cetacea  Dec-16-10 11:09 AM   #0 
  - How about fetuses? Are they less human?  stray cat   Dec-16-10 11:10 AM   #1 
  - Fetusus are no less human...  and-justice-for-all   Dec-16-10 11:17 AM   #3 
  - Are you anti-choice? nt  Bluebear   Dec-17-10 04:33 AM   #77 
  - I am guessing  RugbyGod   Dec-17-10 10:55 AM   #82 
  - Bye bye now.  Bluebear   Dec-18-10 03:27 AM   #97 
  - Feh. You misunderestimate him.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-17-10 06:54 PM   #88 
  - Until at least the fifth month, yes. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-17-10 06:53 PM   #87 
  - Human fetuses or dolphin fetuses?  Cerridwen   Dec-18-10 12:14 AM   #96 
  - People who still think of ocean mammals as "fish" will never understand the argument.  HopeHoops   Dec-16-10 11:15 AM   #2 
  - Considering how we discriminate among one another  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 11:18 AM   #4 
     - C-SPAN just had a "Republican callers only" session and the racism was beyond disgusting.  HopeHoops   Dec-16-10 11:28 AM   #9 
  - K&R  me b zola   Dec-16-10 11:22 AM   #5 
  - No.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 11:25 AM   #6 
  - Why do you say that?  sudopod   Dec-16-10 01:09 PM   #29 
     - No, it would not be murder.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 01:57 PM   #43 
        - I don't think I want to be within your reach.  sudopod   Dec-16-10 02:18 PM   #45 
           - A simple DNA test would resolve the issue.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 02:36 PM   #50 
              - Oh, now there's a whole new can of worms.  sudopod   Dec-16-10 02:47 PM   #54 
                 - So then, how do YOU define who is a person?  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 03:08 PM   #56 
                    - I would say any group capable of claiming their rights,  sudopod   Dec-16-10 04:15 PM   #60 
                       - I would agree with the proposition that ...  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 08:07 PM   #63 
                          - If being able to resist dominion via force of arms is a test of "personhood"  sudopod   Dec-16-10 08:13 PM   #64 
                          - Actually, they do have a culture and they probably have a language  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 08:41 PM   #65 
  - Cetacea,  cbayer   Dec-16-10 11:25 AM   #7 
  - Thank you.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 11:30 AM   #11 
  - I prefer the company marine mammals to most people  NightWatcher   Dec-16-10 11:26 AM   #8 
  - Good points. But consider the practices in Japan and Denmark.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 11:33 AM   #12 
  - Yup and elephants too  TheKentuckian   Dec-16-10 11:28 AM   #10 
  - It's been said, animals do not equal humans, no. NT  RSillsbee   Dec-16-10 11:33 AM   #13 
  - Did you read the essay?  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 11:40 AM   #14 
  - Yes  RSillsbee   Dec-16-10 06:39 PM   #62 
     - That is why their status need to be elevated.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 08:52 PM   #67 
        - They ARE animals  RSillsbee   Dec-17-10 04:23 AM   #76 
  - Well, we would say that, wouldn't we? nt  sudopod   Dec-16-10 01:13 PM   #33 
     - That's true  RSillsbee   Dec-17-10 08:51 AM   #80 
  - No. Protection for threatened species, and requirements for humane treatment  petronius   Dec-16-10 11:47 AM   #15 
  - I'm all for protection, humane treatment, and vigorous prosecution of...  Shandris   Dec-16-10 12:42 PM   #16 
  - Thanks for your comment  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 01:01 PM   #19 
  - Wonder what would happen if someone gave them the assistive technology  KamaAina   Dec-16-10 02:41 PM   #51 
     - This whole 'argument'...  Cid_B   Dec-18-10 07:13 AM   #100 
  - Chimps, crows, ravens, and parrots are all tool-making species. nt  AlienGirl   Dec-19-10 01:10 PM   #115 
  - *should* they?  flvegan   Dec-16-10 12:53 PM   #17 
  - "The human race is the most selfish to ever exist"?  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 02:28 PM   #47 
     - I do beg pardon for omitting the word "species"  flvegan   Dec-16-10 02:34 PM   #49 
        - I'm not concerned about that.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 02:44 PM   #52 
           - Sorry to hear that.  flvegan   Dec-16-10 03:48 PM   #57 
  - definitely no. eom  yawnmaster   Dec-16-10 12:58 PM   #18 
  - Should dolphins who rape be charged as rapists? Dolphins frequently rape, gang-rape and torment...  Poll_Blind   Dec-16-10 01:01 PM   #20 
  - They don't attack humans.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 01:07 PM   #27 
  - BTW, from your original unedited response it's clear you didn't watch the videos I posted.  Poll_Blind   Dec-16-10 01:17 PM   #38 
     - You tube has a woman being "raped" by dolphins. Same title.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 01:34 PM   #41 
        - And even if they did do that, people murder and rape people all the time.  sudopod   Dec-16-10 02:20 PM   #46 
        - I think the point is that dolphins are not people.  Llewlladdwr   Dec-16-10 02:57 PM   #55 
  - You might want to watch the videos you link to.  Doremus   Dec-16-10 01:56 PM   #42 
  - Yes. Recommended. n/t  Catherina   Dec-16-10 01:01 PM   #21 
  - Hi!  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 01:19 PM   #39 
  - Only if dolphins themselves can be brought before judges and charged with crimes. nt  Occam Bandage   Dec-16-10 01:03 PM   #22 
  - Changing my vote to yes.... as long as the judge, prosecutor and jury are all dolphins/whales...  yawnmaster   Dec-16-10 01:04 PM   #23 
  - clarification...the jury can be a mix of humans and dolphins. eom  yawnmaster   Dec-16-10 01:05 PM   #24 
     - Nice post, George C. Scott  Bucky   Dec-16-10 01:09 PM   #28 
     - A prophetic movie.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 01:15 PM   #36 
     - 12 Angry Manatees  Dr. Strange   Dec-16-10 01:11 PM   #30 
     - Counsel will now present their FIN-ishing arguments  Bucky   Dec-16-10 01:12 PM   #32 
        - Tuna in next week to find out the verdict!  Dr. Strange   Dec-16-10 01:15 PM   #37 
     - But can a 14 year old dolphin be tried as an adult?  11 Bravo   Dec-17-10 06:53 PM   #86 
        - In Florida, yes.  KurtNYC   Dec-18-10 10:05 PM   #113 
  - Very interesting and informative post. Rec.  JonLP24   Dec-16-10 01:05 PM   #25 
  - According to Melville, whale's mighty good eatin'  Bucky   Dec-16-10 01:06 PM   #26 
  - Ha.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 01:11 PM   #31 
     - depend on what brand of chew they've been using. eom  yawnmaster   Dec-16-10 01:13 PM   #34 
  - K&R  Desertrose   Dec-16-10 01:14 PM   #35 
  - Thank you.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 09:23 PM   #75 
  - No.  closeupready   Dec-16-10 01:25 PM   #40 
  - No. Nonetheless, an interesting OP. Rec'd  Kaleva   Dec-16-10 01:58 PM   #44 
  - Forget the brain  Sheepshank   Dec-16-10 02:31 PM   #48 
  - Dolphins can use computers  KamaAina   Dec-16-10 02:45 PM   #53 
  - no that's just silly  pitohui   Dec-16-10 03:50 PM   #58 
  - " that's the law of the land and the way the majority wants it"  sudopod   Dec-16-10 04:17 PM   #61 
  - YES YES YES they should  underseasurveyor   Dec-16-10 03:56 PM   #59 
  - Same ol same ol  RegieRocker   Dec-16-10 08:43 PM   #66 
  - A mole is an animal.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 09:04 PM   #70 
     - No a mole is a mammal  RegieRocker   Dec-17-10 06:46 PM   #84 
     - Ah, but does it periodically seek and rescue humans?  Cetacea   Dec-17-10 07:15 PM   #89 
        - Oh...ok  RegieRocker   Dec-17-10 07:27 PM   #90 
           - Hi  Cetacea   Dec-17-10 10:05 PM   #92 
     - I think the point is that ...  Cid_B   Dec-18-10 07:11 AM   #99 
        - Ah, forget this pointless animal rights argument. They repealed DADT! Celebrate!  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-18-10 08:22 PM   #105 
           - Congratulations!!!. And thanks for kicking the pointless thread.  Cetacea   Dec-18-10 09:20 PM   #107 
              - Thing are not what they seem. Will PM you shortly.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-18-10 09:21 PM   #108 
                 - Thank you.  Cetacea   Dec-18-10 09:34 PM   #111 
                 - You are a lovely dirtbag...  Cid_B   Dec-19-10 01:32 PM   #116 
                    - Go to this thread and relax.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-19-10 07:47 PM   #117 
  - YES!!!!! Dolphins are amazing mammals.  jillan   Dec-16-10 08:56 PM   #68 
  - I think of those vortex rings as "smoke signals".  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 09:11 PM   #74 
  - If a person is as dumb as a cow, can I kill him?  Throd   Dec-16-10 08:57 PM   #69 
  - A cow is an animal.  Cetacea   Dec-16-10 09:05 PM   #72 
  - Yes. It's speciesism to assume humans are the only ones with rights.  AmandaMae   Dec-16-10 09:04 PM   #71 
  - Agreed.  flvegan   Dec-16-10 09:09 PM   #73 
  - The problem is other animals are unable to demand their own rights.  Countdown_3_2_1   Dec-17-10 05:59 AM   #78 
  - I would agree with that  RegieRocker   Dec-17-10 06:48 PM   #85 
  - No, marine mammals are not people.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Dec-17-10 08:06 AM   #79 
  - Some marine mammals are persons. Sorry.  Cetacea   Dec-17-10 10:24 AM   #81 
     - But you didn't cite science -- you cited philosophy.  aikoaiko   Dec-18-10 07:30 AM   #102 
  - No. They're not people. Some things really are that simple.  lumberjack_jeff   Dec-17-10 11:15 AM   #83 
  - "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others"  aikoaiko   Dec-17-10 07:34 PM   #91 
  - We tend to not treat mammals like fish  Cetacea   Dec-17-10 10:34 PM   #93 
  - No, but they shouldn't kill them.  harun   Dec-17-10 10:36 PM   #94 
  - If a dolphin is killed  Recovered Repug   Dec-17-10 11:01 PM   #95 
  - It should be a crime of the highest order  CrawlingChaos   Dec-18-10 05:30 AM   #98 
  - No  quaker bill   Dec-18-10 07:16 AM   #101 
  - Make killing dolphins a crime? Yes. Completely equivalent to murder of a human? No.  Silent3   Dec-18-10 09:53 AM   #103 
  - Thank you.  Cetacea   Dec-18-10 12:43 PM   #104 
     - It appears that all cetaceans, including killer whales, are prohibited(?) from killing humans in the  micraphone   Dec-19-10 02:50 AM   #114 
        - Thanks for your post.  Cetacea   Dec-19-10 11:50 PM   #120 
  - Only if monkey killers get the same treatment  Generic Brad   Dec-18-10 08:31 PM   #106 
  - Absolutely not. n/t  Godhumor   Dec-18-10 09:26 PM   #109 
  - Dolphins have big brains. Big, tasty brains.  Nailzberg   Dec-18-10 09:28 PM   #110 
  - Absolutely.  Odin2005   Dec-18-10 09:48 PM   #112 
  - Charging fishermen as murders. Ever wonder why people view animal activists as extremists?  Taitertots   Dec-19-10 07:56 PM   #118 
  - Ever wonder why it took so long for civil rights? Gay rights?  Cetacea   Dec-19-10 11:56 PM   #121 
  - My op does not represent the views of the linked author  Cetacea   Dec-19-10 11:42 PM   #119 
 

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