| 149. There is no "Communism" in China |
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You pay for your own health care, car, house, etc. Let me put it this way: The USA is more "Communist" than the PRC.
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| -Capitalism IS the problem |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:13 PM |
#0 |
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Free trade, no tariffs. That fucked us over. nt |
valerief |
Oct-10-11 06:15 PM |
#1 |
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But what led to free trade and no tariffs? |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:18 PM |
#3 |
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Part of "Globalism" was killing unions |
War Horse |
Oct-10-11 06:27 PM |
#11 |
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Capitalism is capitalism whether national or global. |
Unvanguard |
Oct-10-11 07:48 PM |
#64 |
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Yet it gives us New technology, pharmaceuticals, entertainment and a lot of the pleasures in life. |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:18 PM |
#2 |
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Capitalism is not the only way to provide incentives |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:19 PM |
#5 |
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How do you reward achievements with money and not be capitalist? |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:22 PM |
#7 |
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Is the Nobel prize a capitalist reward? |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:24 PM |
#9 |
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Yes it is... |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:31 PM |
#14 |
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Nobel was a capitalist, but that doesn't mean the prize is |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:33 PM |
#16 |
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0bama got $1.4 million for his prize. |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:36 PM |
#21 |
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Yes...and? |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:36 PM |
#24 |
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It's a nice chunk of change. |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:50 PM |
#36 |
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Too bad he never earned a penny of that change, |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 06:52 PM |
#39 |
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They produce retirements for state pensioners. |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 07:19 PM |
#56 |
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No they don't. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 07:29 PM |
#59 |
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Exactly what did he do to win the prize? |
Synicus Maximus |
Oct-10-11 07:02 PM |
#47 |
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Dunno. Doesn't seem like the ultimate in incentivizing though does it? |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 07:16 PM |
#55 |
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It's an example |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 09:37 PM |
#80 |
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If you reward with bonuses, that is capitalism. Money based on work effort and |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-10-11 09:16 PM |
#73 |
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Why does a hedge fund manager get a bigger reward than the person who collects your garbage? |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 06:25 PM |
#10 |
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Maybe because anyone who can walk and lift 50 pounds can collect garbage? |
pipoman |
Oct-10-11 06:34 PM |
#17 |
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...and anyone with a keyboard can be a hedge fund manager |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:35 PM |
#20 |
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How do you know I haven't? |
pipoman |
Oct-10-11 06:57 PM |
#45 |
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Who says the hedge fund managers are qualified or successful? Can you say 'bailout'? |
LooseWilly |
Oct-11-11 01:50 AM |
#100 |
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Unqualified, unsuccessful hedge managers |
pipoman |
Oct-11-11 06:00 AM |
#105 |
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So...go try and be a hedge fund manager. First, spend hundreds of thousands of |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-10-11 09:20 PM |
#74 |
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"There are a lot of those jobs around" |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 09:37 PM |
#81 |
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Besides, what GOOD is a hedge fund manager? Anwser: Useless |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 09:39 PM |
#82 |
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Oh THIS conversation again...Anybody can do any job |
snooper2 |
Oct-11-11 10:12 AM |
#122 |
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Geez, basic Marxism. Perceived value of labor vs. actual value of labor. And yes, a garbage collecto |
anneboleyn |
Oct-10-11 10:09 PM |
#84 |
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OFTLOF |
pipoman |
Oct-11-11 06:07 AM |
#106 |
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The point is garbage collectors perform a far more important task than the hedge fund managers, |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:08 AM |
#121 |
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I know some in these parts are die-hard idealists |
pipoman |
Oct-11-11 06:46 PM |
#203 |
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Why does he lose half his assets in 10 months whereas the person collecting your garbage still gets |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:34 PM |
#19 |
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lol let me get my violin |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 06:37 PM |
#25 |
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Well that's how he makes a lot and loses a lot |
dkf |
Oct-10-11 06:52 PM |
#38 |
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The People Who Collect the Garbage Do Not Speak English |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-11-11 11:25 PM |
#204 |
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The Space Program gave us alot of good stuff too. |
Billypenn |
Oct-11-11 09:57 AM |
#117 |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 06:18 PM |
#4 |
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capitalism with regulation worked so well that people stopped paying attention to gov't here |
yurbud |
Oct-10-11 06:20 PM |
#6 |
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Not sure how well it worked |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:22 PM |
#8 |
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that is a completely different argument, unrelated to capitalism. |
Joe Fields |
Oct-11-11 12:21 AM |
#98 |
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I disagree. I think it is essential in the understanding of Capitalism. |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:15 PM |
#167 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-11-11 01:55 AM |
#102 |
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So what is the alternative |
War Horse |
Oct-10-11 06:30 PM |
#12 |
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Yeah, what is the alternative to letting rich people profit from our labor? |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 06:32 PM |
#15 |
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So you've reached a level of political enlightenment |
War Horse |
Oct-10-11 06:41 PM |
#27 |
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I'll give you a list of alternatives... |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:44 PM |
#29 |
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A few disagreements. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 06:48 PM |
#34 |
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All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communist |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:55 PM |
#41 |
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No, I haven't even cracked a beer |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 06:44 PM |
#30 |
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Alternatives Are, Be Self-Employed, Work for a Cooperative or a Non-Profit or a Government Agency |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-10-11 10:43 PM |
#86 |
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The answer of "what we should do now" is to find an answer to this question |
ChillbertKChesterton |
Oct-10-11 06:34 PM |
#18 |
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Then you can move along without me |
War Horse |
Oct-10-11 06:53 PM |
# |
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There's no way real social change can happen without it |
ChillbertKChesterton |
Oct-10-11 09:00 PM |
#71 |
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The alternative is to scrap capitalism |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:36 PM |
#22 |
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I wonder if folks said to George Washington "so what is the alternative" |
TBF |
Oct-10-11 06:42 PM |
#28 |
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People say "well if you don't have an alternative, you shouldn't criticize Capitalism!" |
ChillbertKChesterton |
Oct-10-11 06:31 PM |
#13 |
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all systems that totally eradicated capitalism have been impoverished totalitarian nightmares |
Douglas Carpenter |
Oct-10-11 06:36 PM |
#23 |
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Yet Capitalism itself leads to impoverished totalitarian nightmares |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:38 PM |
#26 |
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l modern Europe has shown a workable alternative - not perfect - but something that actually works |
Douglas Carpenter |
Oct-10-11 06:50 PM |
#35 |
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No,UNREGULATED Capitalism is the problem |
rustydog |
Oct-10-11 06:45 PM |
#31 |
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The problem is, Capitalism provides motivation to buy the regulators |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:47 PM |
#32 |
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I'll have to give you that |
War Horse |
Oct-10-11 07:10 PM |
#51 |
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Greed provides the motivation. No matter what system. |
Gregorian |
Oct-10-11 07:41 PM |
#62 |
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Agreed |
workinclasszero |
Oct-10-11 07:49 PM |
#65 |
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And there is no incentive to bribe government officials in Socialism? (nt) |
Nederland |
Oct-10-11 07:50 PM |
#66 |
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Democratic Socialism IS the answer. |
roamer65 |
Oct-10-11 06:48 PM |
#33 |
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UNREGULATED Capitalism. |
OHdem10 |
Oct-10-11 06:51 PM |
#37 |
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OK. Then, it's time to find a path to a non-capitalistic |
MineralMan |
Oct-10-11 06:53 PM |
#40 |
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If workers owned the means of production, how would millions starve to death? |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 06:55 PM |
#42 |
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Oh, dear. Sounds great. How do you accomplish having the |
MineralMan |
Oct-10-11 06:59 PM |
#46 |
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You didn't answer the question n/t |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 07:13 PM |
#53 |
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Nor did you answer mine. I asked for a path, you provided an |
MineralMan |
Oct-10-11 07:35 PM |
#60 |
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Why do you want a path to a system you say will kill millions? n/t |
leftstreet |
Oct-10-11 07:40 PM |
#61 |
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Howzabout Capitalism Dominated by Worker-Owned Businesses? |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-10-11 08:35 PM |
#68 |
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If *all* companies were employee owned - that would fall under the definition of Socialism |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 09:34 PM |
#78 |
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That would be Mutualism. An influential early form of anarchism. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 10:11 PM |
#85 |
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Economist David Ricardo suggested Social Democracy as a tranition phase |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 06:57 PM |
#44 |
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And how do you put people in control of the means of production, |
MineralMan |
Oct-10-11 07:03 PM |
#48 |
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How do we get there? Nationalize certain companies. I'd start with Big Pharm. |
Taverner |
Oct-10-11 09:24 PM |
#77 |
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When the Oil Companies Fuck Up Big Time, Cancel their Leases |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-10-11 11:37 PM |
#94 |
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But that's just it - Capitalism won't let that happen |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:56 AM |
#164 |
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It's easy to compensate the shareholders |
socialist_n_TN |
Oct-11-11 02:24 PM |
#201 |
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You do realize that there is no current way to nationalize |
MineralMan |
Oct-11-11 07:58 AM |
#107 |
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And that's where the conversation ends... |
snooper2 |
Oct-11-11 10:14 AM |
#123 |
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As a wise DU'er wrote in a different thread... |
SidDithers |
Oct-11-11 10:22 AM |
#126 |
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That's what's so frustrating to me. I have lofty goals, too, |
MineralMan |
Oct-11-11 10:28 AM |
#129 |
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At the rate we are going now, there won't be an "America" in twenty or so years |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:23 AM |
#146 |
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We need a brand new government |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:21 AM |
#143 |
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Industries have been nationalized before. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:20 AM |
#125 |
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Yes, but getting Congress to authorize such things isn't so |
MineralMan |
Oct-11-11 10:30 AM |
#130 |
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Congress has utterly failed. Fire them all, and then sue them for fraud. nt |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:22 AM |
#145 |
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Thanks. I couldn't think of the instance, but I knew there was a precedent. |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:21 AM |
#144 |
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That doesn't stop the government from doing other things it's not authorized to do |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:19 AM |
#142 |
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Not Taverner, but I'd just wait till they crashed |
socialist_n_TN |
Oct-11-11 02:20 PM |
#200 |
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It worked for a while. |
moondust |
Oct-10-11 06:56 PM |
#43 |
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Corporatism is the problem, not capitalism. |
Rex |
Oct-10-11 07:04 PM |
#49 |
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Wrong. Corporatism is Capitalism in it's final stage. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-10-11 07:13 PM |
#54 |
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Yep. It's a form of Imperialism. As Lenin said it's the highest stage of capitalism. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 07:28 PM |
#58 |
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Imagine |
Zanzoobar |
Oct-10-11 07:09 PM |
#50 |
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I see the Capitalism defenders have arrived. UGH! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-10-11 07:12 PM |
#52 |
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do you not see a little irony in saying that and having a Howard Dean avatar? |
Douglas Carpenter |
Oct-10-11 07:21 PM |
#57 |
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Absolutely true. The weasel word "corporatism" just distorts this fact. |
Unvanguard |
Oct-10-11 07:47 PM |
#63 |
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Unregulated Capitalism is the enemy of workingmen. |
demosincebirth |
Oct-10-11 08:03 PM |
#67 |
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K&R. |
Vidar |
Oct-10-11 08:39 PM |
#69 |
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Here we go again. Every time things get tough it's capitalism's fault, but... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-10-11 08:56 PM |
#70 |
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Capitalism works well for a few, but not the majority. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 09:04 PM |
#72 |
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But still no alternative. |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-10-11 09:20 PM |
#75 |
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We have an alternative. It's called socialism. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 09:24 PM |
#76 |
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What are the ills of socialism? |
itsallhappening |
Oct-10-11 09:44 PM |
#83 |
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Hello? |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 08:34 AM |
#109 |
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Why don't you tell me what you think they are and I will address them. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 09:41 AM |
#112 |
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We could start with all the failed socialist states. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 09:48 AM |
#113 |
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Your one flaw doesn't exist. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 09:50 AM |
#115 |
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That's exactly what it is. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 10:00 AM |
#119 |
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Oh, so we are judging an ideology based upon the atrocities committed in it's name, are we? |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:06 AM |
#120 |
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No. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 10:26 AM |
#128 |
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Your first sentence shows you are completely ignorant of socialism. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:34 AM |
#132 |
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Wow. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 10:49 AM |
#135 |
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Hitler WAS a Capitalist |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:39 AM |
#154 |
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You know when Hitler was asked about socialism he made it clear that his socialism wasn't Marxism. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 11:43 AM |
#156 |
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Nope. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:23 PM |
#172 |
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Have you ever even TAKEN a class on economics? |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:29 PM |
#178 |
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Read some history. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:34 PM |
#181 |
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He did not nationalize the German Auto Industry |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:38 PM |
#183 |
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You need a remedial history class. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:42 PM |
#188 |
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OK, then by your definition, Obama "Nationalized" the banks. |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:43 PM |
#189 |
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Show sources that prove your claims that Hitler nationalized the majority of industry in Germany. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 12:46 PM |
#192 |
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By the way, I realize you said you were done, but I'm sorry you didn't get to |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 11:03 AM |
#137 |
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Wow - wishing death - how...Capitalist of you |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:43 AM |
#157 |
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You know I put the person your replying to on ignore, but I think I'm missing some funny stuff. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 11:45 AM |
# |
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The poster wished you got to experience Pol Pot and the USSR |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:02 PM |
#165 |
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He's the one idolizing those societies. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:17 PM |
#168 |
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Everyone having a job is much better than people starving |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:19 PM |
#170 |
| -
You've created a false choice. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:23 PM |
#173 |
| -
You cannot feed everyone under a Capitalist system |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:26 PM |
#177 |
| -
You can't feed everyone under any system. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:36 PM |
#182 |
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We grow enough food to keep everyone on the planet well fed. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 12:41 PM |
#186 |
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Explain the method by which you would accomplish that |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:44 PM |
#190 |
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That is such bullshit. I've never said I idolize the USSR. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 12:24 PM |
#174 |
| -
Judging from your posts, you're going on nothing more than |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:30 PM |
#179 |
| -
"The socialist system requires individuals to abandon free will and individual rights" |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:37 AM |
#153 |
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Which is why Ayn Rand idolized one of them. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 11:44 AM |
#158 |
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Yep - William Hickman. She would have loved Ted Bundy too |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:46 AM |
#160 |
| -
Forgot to ask... |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 10:33 AM |
#131 |
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The only "right" socialism takes away is the "right" to own private property. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:36 AM |
#134 |
| -
Yeah, just that little insignificant right. LOL |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 10:53 AM |
#136 |
| -
The Capitalists have turned the means of production against the workers |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:25 AM |
#148 |
| -
What a strange analogy. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:18 PM |
#169 |
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"Productive People"???? The only thing they produce IS death |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:20 PM |
#171 |
| -
Wow, I think we have an Ayn Rand fan on our hands. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 12:25 PM |
#175 |
| -
Okay, Captain Hyperbole. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:26 PM |
#176 |
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I hate to be the one to break this to you - but you, and pretty much all of us - will never be rich |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:32 PM |
#180 |
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You might not be invited. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:41 PM |
#185 |
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Um, $300K is not rich |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:42 PM |
#187 |
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Trajectory. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:46 PM |
#191 |
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It doesn't really work that way |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:50 PM |
#193 |
| -
It can, and sometimes does. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:53 PM |
#195 |
| -
Good for you. I never said capitalism doesn't work for a minority of people. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 12:50 PM |
#194 |
| -
It fails when you think like the other poster. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 12:53 PM |
#196 |
| -
So are you saying those working for slave wages in China just need to work harder |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 12:56 PM |
#197 |
| -
No. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 01:56 PM |
#198 |
| -
Bullshit. China is as capitalist a nation you'll find on this planet. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 02:06 PM |
#199 |
| -
This computer is personal property. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 11:53 AM |
#163 |
| -
The Soviet states were no more Socialist than Bush was Compassionate Conservatism |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:24 AM |
#147 |
| -
Why Has Communism Failed to Protect the Workers in China from Said Evils? |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-10-11 10:51 PM |
#89 |
| -
Oh please China abandoned even attempting to build socialism with Mao's death. |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 11:35 PM |
#92 |
| -
Obviously. How Did That Happen? |
AndyTiedye |
Oct-10-11 11:59 PM |
#95 |
| -
There is no "Communism" in China |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:27 AM |
#149 |
| -
The former USSR is a better example. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 08:43 AM |
#110 |
| -
Again - the USSR was not Communist |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:29 AM |
#150 |
| -
Yeah. The very early days of the USSR was the most free society on earth. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 11:41 AM |
#155 |
| -
So the East Germans and the Soviets didn't make any great scientific discoveries? Or the Chinese? |
anneboleyn |
Oct-10-11 10:50 PM |
#88 |
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Uh, no iphone without ARPANET, which was government funded. Many American innovations (human genome |
anneboleyn |
Oct-10-11 11:03 PM |
#90 |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Oct-10-11 09:36 PM |
#79 |
| -
Yes, Marxism 101: there is no inherent correlation between labor and remuneration. "Surplus value." |
anneboleyn |
Oct-10-11 10:47 PM |
#87 |
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+1 |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-11-11 12:01 AM |
#96 |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Oct-11-11 01:43 AM |
#99 |
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Capitalism isn't the problem, Reganomics is the problem. |
Initech |
Oct-10-11 11:05 PM |
#91 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-11-11 01:56 AM |
#104 |
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Switzerland: capitalist, 3% unemployment, universal health care. |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-10-11 11:36 PM |
#93 |
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capitalism with regulation did work. |
Joe Fields |
Oct-11-11 12:19 AM |
#97 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-11-11 01:55 AM |
#103 |
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Minimum Wage Petition to White House |
Altruism |
Oct-11-11 01:52 AM |
#101 |
| -
Leave capitalism alone |
walerosco |
Oct-11-11 08:20 AM |
#108 |
| -
There's something all ism's have in common |
The2ndWheel |
Oct-11-11 08:44 AM |
#111 |
| -
toilet musings |
Che Billy |
Oct-11-11 09:49 AM |
#114 |
| -
Well mused. |
moondust |
Oct-11-11 11:45 AM |
#159 |
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Americans are a pro-capitalist people. Deal with it. |
phleshdef |
Oct-11-11 09:54 AM |
#116 |
| -
Not entirely true. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:00 AM |
#118 |
| -
I never said Americans don't want socialism as well. |
phleshdef |
Oct-11-11 11:07 AM |
#138 |
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Agreed. Along with a sustainable safety-net. |
itsallhappening |
Oct-11-11 11:09 AM |
#139 |
| -
Whether or not we sell the idea is irrelevant |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 12:39 PM |
#184 |
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And still it's 'anything but socialism'. |
blindpig |
Oct-11-11 10:16 AM |
#124 |
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I think the OP is a fan of Debs's Socialist Party and the I.W.W. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 10:23 AM |
#127 |
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He first read Marx while in prison in IL |
Taverner |
Oct-11-11 11:34 AM |
#151 |
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Thanks. The more I read of him, the more I like him. |
white_wolf |
Oct-11-11 11:47 AM |
#162 |
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Capitalism works. |
Colonel Schwartz |
Oct-11-11 10:35 AM |
#133 |
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No, Not Really |
NeedleCast |
Oct-11-11 11:14 AM |
#140 |
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Capitalism is fine. People suck. n/t |
Cats Against Frist |
Oct-11-11 11:16 AM |
#141 |
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Ya can't get anymore reactionary than that. |
blindpig |
Oct-11-11 12:07 PM |
#166 |
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Capitalism actually has two aspects that work together to maximize the damage. |
GliderGuider |
Oct-11-11 11:35 AM |
#152 |
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Actually when "We tried Capitalism with regulation" it worked pretty well |
ThomWV |
Oct-11-11 11:47 AM |
#161 |
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The problem with the "Capitalism works with regulation" |
socialist_n_TN |
Oct-11-11 02:44 PM |
#202 |
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