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Mon Oct-10-11 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #77 |
| 84. Is that usually a spur of the moment thing? |
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Does the general public not have a clue as to when it may happen?
I would imagine that enough notice goes out to give people a chance to take a detour until the President passes through.
That is NOT the same as a group of people maliciously blocking traffic for their own ends...without notice.
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| -Occupy Chicago is marching and has effectively stalled rush hour traffic . . . |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 05:30 PM |
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K&R! Bookmarking! |
Rhiannon12866 |
Oct-10-11 05:31 PM |
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YES! |
snappyturtle |
Oct-10-11 05:33 PM |
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Isn't it cool...? |
FirstLight |
Oct-10-11 05:37 PM |
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Kick for update |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 05:43 PM |
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Nothing like pissing people off |
greytdemocrat |
Oct-10-11 05:53 PM |
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It's surely one of the most effective ways of winning over hearts and minds |
slackmaster |
Oct-10-11 05:53 PM |
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It's probably the only way many people will hear about the protests |
csziggy |
Oct-10-11 05:55 PM |
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Or soliciting their support on their way home. Just about everyone we stopped |
valerief |
Oct-10-11 05:56 PM |
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There's a difference from Saturday joy riders and Monday commuters.... |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 05:57 PM |
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Not much. All people aren't that shallow. And most of the people were in trucks, working. nt |
valerief |
Oct-10-11 06:04 PM |
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First, what's shallow about wanting to get home after a day of work? |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 06:53 PM |
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. |
Occulus |
Oct-11-11 08:46 AM |
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Have you guys ever been in downtown Chicago? |
girl gone mad |
Oct-10-11 08:16 PM |
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What will be amusing is when traffic report sounds like mexico city's |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-11-11 08:14 AM |
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Taking people out of their comfort zone is the point of demonstrations. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-10-11 08:30 PM |
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Here in Portland when we took our streets |
me b zola |
Oct-11-11 04:47 AM |
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My I just have to ask |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-11-11 08:15 AM |
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What better way to win the minds and hearts of productive society... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Oct-10-11 05:54 PM |
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These things happen, it is a part of life. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-10-11 09:07 PM |
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Obama's motorcade inconveniences people. So do parades. Big deal. |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:44 AM |
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In NYC, people waved and honked their support to the protesters. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-11-11 04:58 AM |
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I imagine many people wish that civil disobedience and social change |
LanternWaste |
Oct-11-11 07:13 AM |
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It doen't need to be simple & convenient... but certainly not aimed at the wrong demographic. |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Oct-11-11 09:13 AM |
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We have exactly that Pretty Box - every four years, with slogans |
truedelphi |
Oct-11-11 02:19 PM |
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Fabulous! nt |
valerief |
Oct-10-11 05:55 PM |
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This seems counter productive. |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 05:56 PM |
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I'll tell you what's counterproductive |
Cali_Democrat |
Oct-10-11 05:57 PM |
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And keeping people from their families illustrates this point? |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 05:59 PM |
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The blame lies with the 1% and their enablers |
Cali_Democrat |
Oct-10-11 06:00 PM |
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So when a mob...who have chosen to be there...blocks traffic |
Abin Sur |
Oct-10-11 06:20 PM |
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Eric Cantor recently called the protesters a mob |
Cali_Democrat |
Oct-10-11 06:27 PM |
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And that assertion takes away from my point...how, exactly? |
Abin Sur |
Oct-10-11 06:51 PM |
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And you're channeling someone who is thinking only with their heart and not with your mind |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 06:51 PM |
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You think protests are OK, as long as they don't inconvenience anyone, which means actually you |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:46 AM |
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Certainly they should be allowed |
Abin Sur |
Oct-11-11 08:20 AM |
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That's just wrong,...it's poor optics and only hurts the cause. |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 06:51 PM |
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And that's why civil disobedience against the general populace is a ridiculous strategy here. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-10-11 08:00 PM |
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That actually makes as little sense |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 09:11 AM |
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Good luck Joe... |
cwydro |
Oct-10-11 06:54 PM |
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yes. |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:45 AM |
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"Wealthy oil companies" and "corporations" make up what % of people stuck in the traffic jams? |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Oct-10-11 06:04 PM |
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I think you confuse "counter-productive" and "convenient." |
LanternWaste |
Oct-11-11 07:14 AM |
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I'd be really annoyed if on my way home |
cwydro |
Oct-10-11 06:08 PM |
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Exactly... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 06:57 PM |
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So would you be so mad at a little inconvienence |
socialist_n_TN |
Oct-12-11 09:18 AM |
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Blocking traffic = fasted way possible to alienate people |
Imajika |
Oct-10-11 06:27 PM |
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God help them if |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 06:54 PM |
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Sorry asses? |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 06:55 PM |
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Yes, sorry asses |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 06:59 PM |
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Oh please. |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 07:01 PM |
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"your minor inconvenience can kiss my butt" |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 07:04 PM |
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Perfect post |
cwydro |
Oct-10-11 07:10 PM |
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Thank you... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 07:21 PM |
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Which is not different than the assholes on Wall Street. . . |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 07:22 PM |
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You actually support it so long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone. Which means |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:52 AM |
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Oh, here's an idea.... |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 07:53 AM |
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Plasticine priorities are very important to our flaccid contentment... |
LanternWaste |
Oct-11-11 07:41 AM |
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Lack of forethought and the refusal to acknowledge |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 08:12 AM |
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weird... I am on your side |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 07:24 PM |
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I countered you because you showed the same indifference to other peoples' inconvenience . . . |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 07:28 PM |
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No. I don't see it. |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 07:36 PM |
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You don't get heard by acting out and pissing off those whose support you need |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 07:46 PM |
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. |
Occulus |
Oct-11-11 08:50 AM |
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Well see, there you go... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 07:34 PM |
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And what if you have to get home to take care |
cwydro |
Oct-10-11 07:09 PM |
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Yeah, Oh please... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 07:14 PM |
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how do you think |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 07:21 PM |
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You're talking about a situation involving |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 07:29 PM |
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Whatever, I disgree. |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 07:42 PM |
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The point is, if the idea is to get people on your side, ruining their evening isn't the way to do |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 07:49 PM |
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I'm not trying to "shout down people like you". |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 07:54 PM |
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I see your point. |
Texasgal |
Oct-10-11 08:08 PM |
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I didn't ask you to agree. |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 08:43 PM |
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we each should weigh which is more important |
LanternWaste |
Oct-11-11 08:12 AM |
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What's not important to you |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 08:26 AM |
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Lots of selfish people out there pipi |
cwydro |
Oct-10-11 07:03 PM |
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I know... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 07:18 PM |
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Kafkaesque. Do you call Obama 'selfish' when his motorcade clears the entire fucking freeway? |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:54 AM |
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he's not some asshole |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 08:30 AM |
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so it's not traffic jams that bother you, but protest. gotcha. that makes things clear. |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 12:05 PM |
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No, dear...you don't |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 02:42 PM |
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Oct-10-11 06:59 PM |
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LInk to the HuffPo with pictures |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 06:59 PM |
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Solidarity my brothers and sisters in Chicago. nt |
TBF |
Oct-10-11 07:00 PM |
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Too bad they didn't block the marathon... |
Phentex |
Oct-10-11 07:05 PM |
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Kinda hard to block runners lol. |
cwydro |
Oct-10-11 07:07 PM |
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I ran in that marathon and I would have run them over. . .I worked hard for 18 weeks. . . |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 07:12 PM |
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I know. You told us already... |
Phentex |
Oct-10-11 07:16 PM |
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Its not, not at all. I know there are many of you here at DU who can care less what I think . . |
wndycty |
Oct-10-11 07:19 PM |
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I figured you would be really pissed....... |
KoKo |
Oct-10-11 07:52 PM |
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Oct-10-11 07:13 PM |
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Again, tell me how keeping working stiffs.... |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 07:17 PM |
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It works like this |
Zanzoobar |
Oct-10-11 07:21 PM |
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Then why not go farther? Jump on the hood of my car while I'm stuck in traffic... |
yawnmaster |
Oct-10-11 07:28 PM |
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Indeed. |
joshcryer |
Oct-10-11 08:03 PM |
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That's idiotic. I bet it was an Agent Provocateur who got them to do that. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-10-11 07:29 PM |
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Don't underestimate the wisdom of the crowd. They did it on their own. |
joshcryer |
Oct-10-11 08:00 PM |
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There was no wisdom in this choice...at all.... |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 08:05 PM |
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Please. Protesters can be idiotic without help from Agents Provocateur. nt |
Codeine |
Oct-10-11 08:05 PM |
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African American people are marching against segregation, effectively stalling rush hour traffic. |
joshcryer |
Oct-10-11 08:00 PM |
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African Americans were marching against the majority.... |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 08:04 PM |
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A majority with the level of representation of a minority. |
joshcryer |
Oct-10-11 08:19 PM |
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So again, how does pissing off your 'brothers in arms' effective...what they should have done... |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 08:25 PM |
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The purpose is to get noticed. |
joshcryer |
Oct-10-11 08:39 PM |
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People say that about my posts. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-10-11 08:44 PM |
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You have a real good point, there... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 09:16 PM |
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You're right, it has an effect, it makes the people taking party look like pithy children. |
Joe the Revelator |
Oct-10-11 08:48 PM |
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Are "we"? If "we" are in the majority why do "we" need to "win people to our cause" |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:55 AM |
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Or maybe... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 08:31 PM |
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What if it is POTUS coming through in his limo ... traffic is blocked. You can't get to that |
TBF |
Oct-10-11 08:36 PM |
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Is that usually a spur of the moment thing? |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 08:52 PM |
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You "imagine" notice goes out? Have you ever lived in Washington DC? nt |
TBF |
Oct-10-11 08:53 PM |
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No. But anyone who has |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 09:05 PM |
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Well now that the 99% are protesting in every city you will similarly expect them |
TBF |
Oct-10-11 09:08 PM |
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Actually they are NOT "protesting in every city" |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 09:55 PM |
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they are in chicago, & now people know to expect it. so why are you complaining? |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:59 AM |
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So that's the way it is now? |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 07:51 AM |
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lol. yeah, it's *traffic jams* that really make life "miserable" for people. oh my, oh my. |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 12:03 PM |
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If you are |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 02:34 PM |
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lol. so funny. |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 03:58 AM |
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Please explain |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 08:13 AM |
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There is often no warning! |
girl gone mad |
Oct-10-11 09:19 PM |
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As one of the kvetchers... |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 09:57 PM |
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You wouldn't consider living/working in what area? |
girl gone mad |
Oct-11-11 03:24 AM |
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LOL, I guess you deserve it for living in that area. |
Mariana |
Oct-11-11 07:36 AM |
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Someone mentioned DC |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 07:41 AM |
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No, I support civil disobedience, even if I disagree with the purpose. |
joshcryer |
Oct-10-11 08:39 PM |
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Yeah, well, it's easy enough |
pipi_k |
Oct-10-11 09:01 PM |
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I imagine the owners of that British tea felt just as you do. Protest should never annoy, |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 04:03 AM |
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The owners of that British tea |
pipi_k |
Oct-11-11 07:39 AM |
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"Oh, what will we have to drink? They've thrown all the tea in the bay! Pish posh, such an |
EdMaven |
Oct-11-11 11:47 AM |
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Excellent |
malaise |
Oct-10-11 08:13 PM |
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Well done! |
Vidar |
Oct-10-11 08:39 PM |
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To everyone whining about traffic I'll just leave this article below: |
white_wolf |
Oct-10-11 09:17 PM |
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Teachers want rid of Rahm! |
lonestarnot |
Oct-10-11 09:23 PM |
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Some will undoubtedly complain about traffic |
Tsiyu |
Oct-10-11 09:57 PM |
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This is why the 1% is getting worried |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-11-11 08:13 AM |
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Curious, same crew was annoyed at the idea of blocking traffic |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-11-11 08:17 AM |
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Oct-11-11 08:50 AM |
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Stalled rush-hour traffic? OC is just taking credit |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Oct-11-11 09:17 AM |
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Wish they would stall the traffic between here and Afganistan. |
deaniac21 |
Oct-11-11 09:17 AM |
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I remember one of the giant anti-war marches in the early 00s did this too. |
Withywindle |
Oct-11-11 12:35 PM |
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The anti-war protesters were the 30%, not the 99%. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-12-11 12:50 AM |
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But a lot of us were the same people |
Withywindle |
Oct-12-11 02:16 AM |
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There's a different dynamic in the two situations. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-12-11 09:43 AM |
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And from a purely moral point of view... |
pipi_k |
Oct-12-11 09:54 AM |
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yayyyy for them... |
LadyInAZ |
Oct-12-11 10:02 AM |
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