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Thu Oct-06-11 11:35 AM
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| 96. I have taken to hiding the grave dancing type threads. |
| -The scorn heaped upon Steve Jobs makes me want to puke. |
Joe Fields |
Oct-06-11 08:58 AM |
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I agree Steve Jobs was a visionary and it is very sad he passed so young. However - |
Avalux |
Oct-06-11 09:00 AM |
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How did he not better society with his inventions? |
Joe Fields |
Oct-06-11 09:01 AM |
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All of society? Only a segment can afford an iPhone or a MAC. |
Avalux |
Oct-06-11 09:03 AM |
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Exactly. |
blueamy66 |
Oct-06-11 09:06 AM |
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The hypocrisy stuns me |
frazzled |
Oct-06-11 09:23 AM |
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Whoa! Someone's just a bit touchy..... |
Avalux |
Oct-06-11 09:45 AM |
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I Made A Post That The Internet Would Not Be Possible Without Jobs |
Yavin4 |
Oct-06-11 09:47 AM |
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Blah |
LondonReign2 |
Oct-06-11 09:57 AM |
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It's the fanboys making him into a god I hate |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 02:54 AM |
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Then the internet would not be possible with Humphry Davy as well |
vminfla |
Oct-06-11 12:10 PM |
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You can stand by it all day long and it still won't be true |
MattBaggins |
Oct-06-11 12:38 PM |
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The early internet began in the 60s |
Mr Deltoid |
Oct-06-11 12:38 PM |
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Total and complete bullshit |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 02:52 AM |
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if we had to throw out everything corporate in our lives... |
Whisp |
Oct-06-11 01:29 PM |
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Another annoying fanboy. |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 02:50 AM |
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Absolutely asinine, there were over a dozen GUI systems on the market soon after Lisa came out. |
joshcryer |
Oct-07-11 03:11 AM |
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+1 |
chillspike |
Oct-07-11 04:38 AM |
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No without PARC we might be " typing Fortran commands on some ugly hunk " |
whistler162 |
Oct-07-11 05:47 AM |
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Not true. Everybody has Windows, and Gates could never have stolen |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-06-11 10:14 AM |
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A case could be made that Gates stole Windows from Xerox... |
EOTE |
Oct-06-11 10:47 AM |
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It wasn't the technology, but the market focus. |
Xithras |
Oct-06-11 12:18 PM |
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+1 nt |
shireen |
Oct-06-11 11:51 PM |
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Um, I'm sorry, but that's total revisionism. TRS-80 and Commodore were also killing that market. |
joshcryer |
Oct-07-11 03:05 AM |
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No, it's not. |
Xithras |
Oct-07-11 01:00 PM |
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Xerox made it before jobs |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 02:55 AM |
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Let's not forget that Mac OS used cooperative multitasking for almost two decades. |
joshcryer |
Oct-07-11 03:26 AM |
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And 10 percent of the public owning computers |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 03:33 AM |
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please name HIS inventions |
krawhitham |
Oct-06-11 10:26 AM |
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He made society more convient for some, while making society unbarable for others. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-06-11 10:28 AM |
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Good post. n/t |
Avalux |
Oct-06-11 11:30 AM |
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Weren't his inventions |
MattBaggins |
Oct-06-11 12:35 PM |
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He did invent |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 02:56 AM |
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It's not jobs, it's his fanboy club |
Confusious |
Oct-07-11 02:45 AM |
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Jesus was quite likely a fictional character who had no objective historical existence. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:22 AM |
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You don't get it.... |
Avalux |
Oct-06-11 11:25 AM |
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What don't I get? |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 12:06 PM |
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K & R |
Champion Jack |
Oct-06-11 09:00 AM |
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i think it is the contradiction that people are pointing out. doesnt mean scorn... or hate |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-11 09:00 AM |
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+1 |
mmonk |
Oct-06-11 09:09 AM |
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Exactly. The double standards. The hypocrisy... |
pipi_k |
Oct-06-11 09:30 AM |
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Heaven forbid, any shade of gray... Hypocrisy! n/t |
Pithlet |
Oct-07-11 07:42 AM |
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I read a post today that compared him to Cheney. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 09:59 AM |
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ok. and the majority of people are talking about how he was no better than so many of the corps we |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-11 10:12 AM |
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I have not elevated him to sainthood... |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 11:20 AM |
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btw... real classy starting a thread about your mama said.... |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-11 10:19 AM |
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Sigh. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 10:55 AM |
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He took the idea from Xerox. They developed it. He marketed it. nt |
valerief |
Oct-06-11 09:00 AM |
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Xerox did squat with their idea |
n2doc |
Oct-06-11 09:04 AM |
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Gates stole the gui concept from Jobs. I don't hate either of them. |
valerief |
Oct-06-11 09:11 AM |
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If he hadn't died the MSM would just have spent their time on Palin |
n2doc |
Oct-06-11 09:15 AM |
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yep. not only a user of slave labor, also not an innovator. |
Occupied1 |
Oct-06-11 09:08 AM |
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Worshipping Jobs is more important than worshipping democracy apparently from some posts I've seen. |
valerief |
Oct-06-11 09:12 AM |
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they're so reverent about slave labor magnates, it's weird |
Occupied1 |
Oct-06-11 09:13 AM |
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Worshiping? |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 10:03 AM |
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#10 |
valerief |
Oct-06-11 11:02 AM |
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Have you read #10? |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 11:22 AM |
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Too funny! |
City Lights |
Oct-06-11 11:23 AM |
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That's right. That's the reference. nt |
valerief |
Oct-06-11 11:24 AM |
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ummmm? What? |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 11:59 AM |
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Complaining about slave labour while posting on the internet is funny...nt |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-11 09:13 AM |
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Are you still here? |
we can do it |
Oct-06-11 09:43 AM |
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He was a capitalist tool who stole from everyone he knew... |
LAGC |
Oct-06-11 09:05 AM |
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he even stole nickle and dime stuff from wozniak. which tells me he was a |
Occupied1 |
Oct-06-11 09:16 AM |
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And his estate is worth an estimated $6.5 billion. Excuse me for |
coalition_unwilling |
Oct-07-11 02:42 AM |
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This makes me want to puke |
workinclasszero |
Oct-06-11 09:09 AM |
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If I may ask... |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 10:05 AM |
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Right..I'm not glad the guy's dead, but he outsourced to China, where I understand the workers |
whathehell |
Oct-06-11 10:13 AM |
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People don't like Jobs because he made money... |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-11 09:11 AM |
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You've got it wrong. |
Avalux |
Oct-06-11 09:19 AM |
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No, it is because of the extremely anti-human working conditions. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-06-11 10:31 AM |
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If you're posting on the internet, you've bought into those suicides... |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-11 10:33 AM |
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Poor logic. Let's assume I am directly responsable for some of those suicides. |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-06-11 10:42 AM |
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+1 |
Rex |
Oct-06-11 01:30 PM |
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Sounds like something a republican would say |
Mr Deltoid |
Oct-06-11 12:44 PM |
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Well it is Sid...and he posts just like a republican |
Rex |
Oct-06-11 01:27 PM |
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Good to know. |
Iris |
Oct-07-11 03:14 AM |
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Garbage. |
Rex |
Oct-06-11 01:26 PM |
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Then puke. |
pintobean |
Oct-06-11 09:11 AM |
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I don't have anything to say one way or another regarding the man but |
Skidmore |
Oct-06-11 09:12 AM |
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and likewise, up spring dozens of hate-filled threads ripping Jobs to shreds... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-06-11 09:15 AM |
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I would rather be associated with those who act with class ... |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 10:24 AM |
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Jobs famously said death is "life's change agent" |
frazzled |
Oct-06-11 09:12 AM |
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Some people thought Hitler was a visionary too. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-11 09:13 AM |
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Yes, but he was German, so that was different. He didn't build Silicon Valley. |
Major Hogwash |
Oct-06-11 09:15 AM |
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Oooo, be careful not to hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. |
City Lights |
Oct-06-11 09:23 AM |
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So that's all you've got, eh? |
Lucian |
Oct-06-11 09:44 AM |
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Don't |
Morrisons Ghost |
Oct-06-11 09:40 AM |
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I wasn't comparing Jobs to Hitler. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-11 09:44 AM |
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Ok... |
Morrisons Ghost |
Oct-06-11 09:57 AM |
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Gah. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-11 10:25 AM |
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Sorry? |
Morrisons Ghost |
Oct-06-11 10:31 AM |
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The moral equivalence escaped you. |
RegieRocker |
Oct-06-11 11:26 AM |
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And Steve Jobs's products used science, and we all know where that leads. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:28 AM |
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It was about worshipping a person who wasn't lets say |
RegieRocker |
Oct-06-11 11:26 AM |
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What is your definition of a "good person", then? |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:30 AM |
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Then why bring up Hitler at all? |
Morrisons Ghost |
Oct-06-11 11:45 AM |
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Yah, but Hitler didn't outsource to China... |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-11 12:28 PM |
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And you have a tendency to use convoluted arguments, just like Charles Manson. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:26 AM |
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I think you have the Charles Manson convoluted arguments |
RegieRocker |
Oct-06-11 11:28 AM |
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This entire subthread was immediately lost by default as per Godwin's Law. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:30 AM |
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Wow. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-06-11 10:32 AM |
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And gold and shit are both made out of matter. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:25 AM |
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Why, then, are you contributing to it all? |
Wait Wut |
Oct-06-11 12:33 PM |
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I don't own a computer. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-11 12:44 PM |
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You think that makes a difference? |
Wait Wut |
Oct-06-11 12:53 PM |
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You really have no argument. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-11 01:25 PM |
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Um. |
Wait Wut |
Oct-06-11 01:43 PM |
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OMFG |
donheld |
Oct-06-11 11:50 PM |
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Jobs was one of the great ones, no doubt about it. |
Major Hogwash |
Oct-06-11 09:13 AM |
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People would complain about Edison or Tesla too. |
Historic NY |
Oct-06-11 09:20 AM |
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Not Tesla. No |
RegieRocker |
Oct-06-11 11:23 AM |
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Edison used and cheated Tesla. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-06-11 11:56 AM |
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To be fair, Edison was sort of a thug and an ass. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 12:07 PM |
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It's the blatant hypocrisy. |
HappyMe |
Oct-06-11 09:29 AM |
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The guy was brilliant, an incredible marketer... |
Not Me |
Oct-06-11 09:36 AM |
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Because Steve Jobs only had 7 BILLION dollars in his bank account |
workinclasszero |
Oct-06-11 09:48 AM |
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Well, you tried. |
Javaman |
Oct-06-11 09:39 AM |
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Yeah... |
Joe Fields |
Oct-06-11 09:58 AM |
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I agree. |
Javaman |
Oct-06-11 10:13 AM |
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Jobs deserves scorn.. |
tridim |
Oct-06-11 09:51 AM |
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That's what I remember hearing about him. A real megalomaniac jerk. nt |
valerief |
Oct-06-11 10:00 AM |
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I was saying the same things about him when he was alive. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Oct-06-11 09:52 AM |
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Hear hear!!! |
RegieRocker |
Oct-06-11 11:29 AM |
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The opposite of both love and hate is indifference. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-06-11 10:07 AM |
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Good post. |
Safetykitten |
Oct-06-11 10:16 AM |
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Dude changed the fucking world. |
Iggo |
Oct-06-11 10:17 AM |
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Agree 100%. n/t |
ChazII |
Oct-06-11 10:21 AM |
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Jobs used other peoples ideas and made money with it |
krawhitham |
Oct-06-11 10:25 AM |
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What? Hide some facts for timing? Nah. Why? |
lonestarnot |
Oct-06-11 10:27 AM |
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There are stupid assholes everywhere. Steve Jobs will be immortal and those who have nothing |
Pisces |
Oct-06-11 10:32 AM |
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I used to expect a lower percentage of assholes here |
Awsi Dooger |
Oct-07-11 12:52 AM |
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He was a good frontman for other people's ideas and inventions |
Mudoria |
Oct-06-11 11:17 AM |
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Agreed, and I'm not even an apple person, although I do like my ipod. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-06-11 11:25 AM |
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WTF, I see more Jobs death posts than I did Kennedy deaths posts. Stupid! |
Logical |
Oct-06-11 11:27 AM |
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Great ideas, RIP. I just wish he would have made the products in America |
ecstatic |
Oct-06-11 11:33 AM |
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I have taken to hiding the grave dancing type threads. |
salin |
Oct-06-11 11:35 AM |
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Agree 100& |
malaise |
Oct-06-11 11:35 AM |
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he knew how to apply design ideas he'd be shown, and also his own to make things work in everyday |
Divine Discontent |
Oct-06-11 12:02 PM |
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A lot of people think he was a straight up asshole |
Rex |
Oct-06-11 12:03 PM |
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OH LOOK CHARLIE SHEEN |
DainBramaged |
Oct-06-11 12:42 PM |
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child and slave labor makes me want to puke as well |
Whisp |
Oct-06-11 01:27 PM |
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I haven't driven any slave laborers to their suicides. |
Union Scribe |
Oct-07-11 12:40 AM |
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This thread is still active? |
Lucian |
Oct-07-11 12:58 AM |
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No |
Mr Deltoid |
Oct-07-11 02:04 AM |
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The praise heaped upon him makes ME want to puke |
_ed_ |
Oct-07-11 07:02 AM |
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