FarLeftFist
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Wed Oct-05-11 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 32. He wrote it down on his Macbook Pro which was destroyed during the Civil War. |
| -Abraham Lincoln said this: |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:25 AM |
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Great quote. Do you have a source? |
Scuba |
Oct-05-11 11:26 AM |
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point being, this is not a new fight. |
mimitabby |
Oct-05-11 11:32 AM |
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No it's not.. The bankers did not like him and made his life hell... |
midnight |
Oct-05-11 12:06 PM |
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I wish he had. |
robertpaulsen |
Oct-05-11 11:33 AM |
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The example listed wasn't the quote. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:35 AM |
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It's almost the exact same quote, plus one sentence at the end and a different beginning. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:41 AM |
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Uh, It's actually completely different. There is one similar sentence. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:46 AM |
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Why don't you source the quote, if it is true, then? |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:51 AM |
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Because Lincoln is dead. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:56 AM |
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OMG. Are you serious? |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:02 PM |
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He wrote it down on his Macbook Pro which was destroyed during the Civil War. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:06 PM |
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How funny - and pathethic. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:07 PM |
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Funny and pathetic. Just like our Founding Fathers intended. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:09 PM |
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MLA citation guide fail! |
JVS |
Oct-05-11 12:31 PM |
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No he didn't. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:34 AM |
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What?! Because I agree with the content I'm a teabagger?! |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:37 AM |
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No. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:39 AM |
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Are you saying the quote doesn't exist? |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:44 AM |
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The quote "exists" in the sense that it is written down here. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:47 AM |
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Yet you don't prove that it's "fraudulent". Nice! |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:48 AM |
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Burden of proof is on you - by any reasonable standard. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:50 AM |
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That link above is FAR from the same quote. Extremely far. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:51 AM |
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Even if I grant that, it's still your burden. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:53 AM |
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It's credited to Abraham Lincoln, what source do you want, I'm no where near the Library of Congress |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:03 PM |
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Lol. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:09 PM |
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WHAAAAT?! What a crazy guy. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:10 PM |
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Jon Steward said something last week about that |
liberal N proud |
Oct-05-11 11:45 AM |
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I saw that, and it's an important point. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:49 AM |
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So it's not true because YOU say it's not true? Yet millions of others say it IS true. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 11:50 AM |
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Argument from majority. Invalid. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 11:52 AM |
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One has to look at facts |
liberal N proud |
Oct-05-11 12:03 PM |
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The point is more of the fact that this fight is not new. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:05 PM |
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Find real quotes to back up your statement |
liberal N proud |
Oct-05-11 12:24 PM |
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Really, DU'ers DEMAND that?! Should I give them a refund? |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:57 PM |
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That's just the kind of gross lumping together that Hitler did. |
JVS |
Oct-05-11 12:32 PM |
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Self Delete... |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:35 PM |
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Fair enough. My Hitler reference was a tongue in cheek, I must admit. |
JVS |
Oct-05-11 12:50 PM |
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That was my first guess. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:53 PM |
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IMO the key sentence is this one.. |
Bandit |
Oct-05-11 11:48 AM |
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I'm still convinced that there is a good reason why you didn't/can't source the claim. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:02 PM |
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Source your claim. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:04 PM |
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Burden of proof is on you. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:05 PM |
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You made a claim as well with no source. Besides, the burden is always on me. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:07 PM |
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Philosphy 101. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:12 PM |
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Let's make our own rules. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:13 PM |
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No - then we end up with the kind of ahistorical bullshit that you are peddling here. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:17 PM |
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I meant our own rules of philosophy. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:20 PM |
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That's what I meant too. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:23 PM |
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I'm living in a world searching for option C. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:24 PM |
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There's no option C. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:26 PM |
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Who cares if Lincoln or the Man in the Moon said it? It's TRUE |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-05-11 12:04 PM |
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And there's my point. Average Joe circa 1862 could have said it, it's about the longevity of it. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 01:03 PM |
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Actually, Sir, It is the Appeal To Authority In the Mis-Attribution That Was the Point |
The Magistrate |
Oct-05-11 02:05 PM |
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Exactly. Unless the author would change the meaning, it doesn't matter. |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-05-11 02:59 PM |
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Sorry, Sir: Mr.Lincoln Never Said Nor Wrote This |
The Magistrate |
Oct-05-11 12:05 PM |
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Oh well. If Lincoln never said it then I guess it's meaningless and should be disregarded. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:08 PM |
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No one said that. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:10 PM |
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Sure, kill the messenger. Suddenly I'M the revisionist. It's all my fault. I can't go on living. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:11 PM |
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I'm starting to think that |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:13 PM |
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4-You have as much proof he didn't say it as I do he did. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:15 PM |
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That doesn't change the fact that when you quote someone... |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:18 PM |
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But PLENTY of people and historians credit it to Lincoln. Yet, your claim isn't sourced at all. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 12:22 PM |
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Please cite "plenty of historians" who say that that quote is from Lincoln. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:24 PM |
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He Will Not Be Able To, Sir:It Is In No Published Collection Of Mr.Lincoln's Writings And Speeches |
The Magistrate |
Oct-05-11 12:39 PM |
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The books on my shelf, Sir, totally agree with you. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:45 PM |
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True. I wish people would be skeptical of posts & emails that purport |
Honeycombe8 |
Oct-05-11 12:30 PM |
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I reccomend your post. You said what I was trying to say so much more eloquently. |
Democracyinkind |
Oct-05-11 12:31 PM |
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Jeez, it wasn't really about who said it as much as it was about the fact that this fight isn't new. |
FarLeftFist |
Oct-05-11 01:00 PM |
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You don't play well with others, do you? |
WilliamPitt |
Oct-05-11 01:17 PM |
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Yes And No, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Oct-05-11 12:35 PM |
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