LoZoccolo
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Thu Oct-06-11 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #73 |
| 76. There's way more involved in participatory democracy than voting. |
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Consensus-building is where things really take place. And it may seem like it's not working because it's hard work and there's more of it to be done. But the right wing has been willing to do it, and has persisted at this current movement for around forty years.
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| -CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE Planned In Today's Occupy Wall St. March |
Modern_Matthew |
Oct-05-11 09:40 AM |
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K&R for nonviolent civil disobedience. It works. nt |
PETRUS |
Oct-05-11 09:48 AM |
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The Broadway shows are shutting down. This is wonderful! I WANT OT BE THERE SO BADLY! |
Lint Head |
Oct-05-11 09:55 AM |
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No, you are mistaken. The Broadway shows will go on today. |
NYCGirl |
Oct-05-11 10:25 AM |
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K&R. (nt) |
Kurovski |
Oct-05-11 09:57 AM |
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Anonymous needs a grammar coach badly. |
EFerrari |
Oct-05-11 09:57 AM |
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I thought the same thing regarding Klein. |
Fantastic Anarchist |
Oct-05-11 03:15 PM |
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amen! |
FirstLight |
Oct-05-11 09:59 AM |
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There are actions at many colleges. You might check your local ones. |
EFerrari |
Oct-05-11 10:38 AM |
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So, now the goal is to 'bring down the regime?' |
Freddie Stubbs |
Oct-05-11 09:59 AM |
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Regime, Junta, Oligarchy, Totalitarian State... call it what you like |
txlibdem |
Oct-05-11 10:05 AM |
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I'm sure that President Obama will allow that |
Freddie Stubbs |
Oct-05-11 10:08 AM |
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Even worse for the protesters |
kctim |
Oct-05-11 10:20 AM |
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"The people" will sit on their sofas and watch Faux News, X-Factor Idol, Who Wants to Win a Bachelor |
txlibdem |
Oct-05-11 01:37 PM |
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Phooey |
kctim |
Oct-05-11 03:56 PM |
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Thank you for making my point |
txlibdem |
Oct-05-11 05:17 PM |
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I don't think so |
kctim |
Oct-06-11 07:55 AM |
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Yes and one bad experience health wise and you are on the street. The American Dream. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-11 07:54 AM |
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Ah yes, fear fear fear |
kctim |
Oct-06-11 09:22 AM |
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So you dont believe in insurance? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-11 04:02 PM |
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I am pro-choice |
kctim |
Oct-07-11 10:34 AM |
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Do you have health insurance? Car insurance? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-07-11 11:07 PM |
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of course he wouldn't. |
piratefish08 |
Oct-05-11 11:33 AM |
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"Making yourself heard" and "bringing down the regime" are two very different things |
Freddie Stubbs |
Oct-05-11 02:34 PM |
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We've "made ourselves heard" a million times and nothing has changed |
txlibdem |
Oct-05-11 05:24 PM |
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that's because |
crunch60 |
Oct-06-11 02:42 AM |
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No one is asking his permission. He will have to choose sides. Which side do you choose Freddie? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-05-11 11:29 PM |
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I think it is :) |
Marrah_G |
Oct-05-11 10:39 AM |
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It's my goal as well. nt |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 11:30 AM |
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Well see, that's the difference between Tahir Square |
socialist_n_TN |
Oct-05-11 11:38 AM |
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And your goal of lying down and being good slaves, is better? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-05-11 11:28 PM |
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My health keeps me at home...but if I could I too would be there... |
Tippy |
Oct-05-11 09:59 AM |
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Ghandi. |
Avalux |
Oct-05-11 10:25 AM |
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But the British leaders had acknowledged him as a force they |
jwirr |
Oct-05-11 11:16 AM |
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Thank you for those insights. |
truedelphi |
Oct-05-11 06:02 PM |
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The struggle is always the sme |
Remember Me |
Oct-05-11 07:32 PM |
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The Brits had two choices, Gandhi or widespread revolt. |
blindpig |
Oct-05-11 01:46 PM |
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K and R |
Kingofalldems |
Oct-05-11 10:36 AM |
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I have no idea what this is supposed to do for that movement. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 10:39 AM |
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Folks are so logical |
justiceischeap |
Oct-05-11 11:20 AM |
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There are things that are worth getting arrested fot. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 11:55 AM |
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No we will not answer your question. You can either help, or you can get out of the way. |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 11:29 AM |
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I already think I have the answer. If you support this movement, |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 11:47 AM |
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lol - you really think working folks don't understand what's wrong with this country? nt |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 11:53 AM |
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I'm sure they do. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 12:02 PM |
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"Those willing to get arrested know why" |
red dog 1 |
Oct-05-11 12:39 PM |
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Well, I think a more effective strategy would be to distribute giant rolls of bubble wrap to |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 12:45 PM |
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It's the inequality, stupid. |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 12:51 PM |
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A careful review of any of my posts here will reveal |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 12:52 PM |
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Oct-05-11 12:58 PM |
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Actually, I do, and they were effective. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 01:03 PM |
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Then I will emphasize the important sentence for you - |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 12:58 PM |
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I thought we were the 99%? n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 01:04 PM |
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We are - I told you working folks realize that. Some still think they can change |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 01:16 PM |
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Right, but think about that. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 01:33 PM |
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More radical groups - |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 01:58 PM |
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I am all for |
sweetapogee |
Oct-05-11 03:47 PM |
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Elections are doing nothing for the economic well-being of most of us - |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 04:57 PM |
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if you are arrested |
crunch60 |
Oct-06-11 02:57 AM |
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You are endorsing unilateral disarmament |
blindpig |
Oct-05-11 02:02 PM |
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Civil Disobedience. |
red dog 1 |
Oct-05-11 03:22 PM |
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1. No I'm not. 2. No, I didn't. 3. No, I don't. 4. You might be right. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 03:59 PM |
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Bravo! |
Marrah_G |
Oct-05-11 12:15 PM |
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...victory. |
EstimatedProphet |
Oct-05-11 12:44 PM |
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See post #32 for a more effective strategy for victory. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-05-11 12:46 PM |
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Name removed |
Oct-05-11 01:12 PM |
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Power. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Oct-05-11 07:01 PM |
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Don't worry your pretty little head about that. nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Oct-05-11 07:16 PM |
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I will be glad to tell you, though I doubt you are seriously asking. |
rhett o rick |
Oct-05-11 11:37 PM |
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"We no longer live in a repre..."zzzzzzzzz... |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-06-11 01:24 AM |
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So are you saying that we should stick with the status quo? Vote and hope for the best? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-11 07:53 AM |
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There's way more involved in participatory democracy than voting. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-06-11 08:14 AM |
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That's swell, but what specific do we do to turn this around. |
rhett o rick |
Oct-06-11 02:27 PM |
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They are hoping they will be one step closer to getting corporate money out of elections, |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-06-11 09:20 AM |
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How is it better than the idea I propose in post #32? n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-06-11 02:05 PM |
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Peaceful protests have caused legal changes before, so they may |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-06-11 03:33 PM |
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I have come to the conclusion that if your protest includes asking for permission |
me b zola |
Oct-05-11 11:34 AM |
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Yep. And the reason for that is simple |
socialist_n_TN |
Oct-05-11 11:42 AM |
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Yep that is very true. Naomi Klein has a whole video |
truedelphi |
Oct-05-11 06:05 PM |
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Dr. King says "hello!" and |
RT Atlanta |
Oct-05-11 12:51 PM |
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Mmmm, I don't know about this. They should wait for the Oct6 protests to join in. |
Fire Walk With Me |
Oct-05-11 04:03 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Oct-05-11 04:20 PM |
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Really good point. nt |
TBF |
Oct-05-11 04:58 PM |
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Naomi is absolutely |
crunch60 |
Oct-06-11 02:35 AM |
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Civil disobedience is fine, but violence and vandalism would... |
Zookeeper |
Oct-06-11 02:46 AM |
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This thread is from yesterday morning... |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-11 04:03 PM |
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