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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:52 AM
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Occupy Wall Street: Why So Many Demands for Demands?
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Everybody has a piece of advice for the protesters at Occupy Wall Street. They should put their clothes on. They should stop raising their fists. They should fact-check their handwritten signs. They should appoint leaders who can give pithy quotes to reporters. They should get with an electoral program. Nicholas Kristof even offered to help them out with a neat list of demands, in case those holding signs saying “We Are the 99%” just needed to have the unfairness of the carried interest rule explained to them.

Indeed, their failure to present demands is the most frequently heard criticism of the OWS protesters, not just in the mainstream press but from veteran leftists as well. What do these wan, angry young people want, anyway?

If you spend an hour or two down at Liberty Plaza, as I did with my 8-year-old daughter this past weekend, it’s clear enough. She got the point, at least: especially from the signs that read, “You should teach your kids to share,” and, “Give my mom her money back!! A single working mom…not fair!”

It’s not that the demands being suggested by OWS’s volunteer policy advisors in the blogosphere are not worthy ideas. At a time when we desperately need to rein in financial speculation and change the incentives on Wall Street, a financial transactions tax is a terrific policy proposal. Dean Baker has been talking about it for years. The thing is, we on the left don’t have a scarcity of policy ideas. We are positively bursting with them. Create a housing trust fund! A national infrastructure bank! And, yes, sure, eliminate the carried interest loophole so fat cats don’t get a bigger tax break than working people. (Some even have more radical ideas, which are quite sensible too.) But at best, we get a polite hearing for these ideas, which then fade away or are hopelessly watered down. We simply lack the power to put them into practice.

And in the recent past, even the most smoothly organized, expertly messaged mass demonstrations have not made a whit of difference in this regard. Consider the last big march on Wall Street this past May 12. The coalition behind it was admirably diverse, including unions like the teachers and SEIU’s 1199, as well as local community organizations such as Citizen Action NY, Coalition for the Homeless and Community Voices Heard. The “May 12 Coalition,” which turned out thousands of protesters on the appointed day, presented the Bloomberg administration with a proposal that exhibited great thoughtfulness in its rigor and detail, asking banks like JPMorgan, Bank of America, and Morgan Stanley to take a 20 percent cut in their contracts to handle functions like child support disbursements or income tax remittances for the city. This would have saved $120 million, part of $1.5 billion that could have been extracted from the banking sector to prevent the city from having to slash education and social services, according to the coalition.
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  -Occupy Wall Street: Why So Many Demands for Demands? xchrom  Oct-04-11 09:52 AM   #0 
  - I think it's self-explanatory..... "We are the 99%"  Avalux   Oct-04-11 09:57 AM   #1 
  - We are trying to push it to the next level,  TBF   Oct-04-11 10:00 AM   #2 
  - A country that throws money at banksters and endless war while its people slip into poverty...  phantom power   Oct-04-11 10:02 AM   #3 
  - Because  DonCoquixote   Oct-04-11 10:04 AM   #4 
  - I'll play devil's advocate  Proud Public Servant   Oct-04-11 10:16 AM   #5 
  - Another DUer came up with this:  CrispyQ   Oct-04-11 10:20 AM   #6 
  - I love it; as an alternative, I'd suggest  Proud Public Servant   Oct-04-11 10:23 AM   #8 
  - The problem is that it's all interlocked  starroute   Oct-04-11 12:25 PM   #11 
     - I think a simple message is possible though  Proud Public Servant   Oct-04-11 01:44 PM   #14 
  - Because, following demands comes compromise.  rug   Oct-04-11 10:22 AM   #7 
  - The political establishment *always* wants leader to talk to  Blue Meany   Oct-04-11 10:24 AM   #9 
  - You win the thread!  Odin2005   Oct-04-11 12:32 PM   #12 
  - What you said....  SomethingFishy   Oct-04-11 02:35 PM   #18 
  - So they can start spinning. Right now they don't know what to attack.  democrat_patriot   Oct-04-11 10:52 AM   #10 
  - Also it lets the MSM co-opt the protest into the Red-Blue framing box.  Odin2005   Oct-04-11 12:33 PM   #13 
  - A problem with the left today  Jim Warren   Oct-04-11 01:53 PM   #15 
  - I would like them to clarify their goals a bit....  raging_moderate   Oct-04-11 02:04 PM   #16 
  - Update....  robdogbucky   Oct-04-11 02:34 PM   #17 
     - More, including Moore.....  robdogbucky   Oct-04-11 02:38 PM   #19 
 

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