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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 01:18 PM
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44. The law calls for the president to make the determination.
The President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

There is no question about his authority to act under the AUMF.
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  -President Obama delivers a "devastating hit" to the U. S. Constitution and international law Better Believe It  Oct-01-11 11:09 AM   #0 
  - This guy wasn't much of a citizen  liberal N proud   Oct-01-11 11:19 AM   #1 
  - Read your Constitution. Treason is clearly defined. What he did  COLGATE4   Oct-01-11 11:25 AM   #2 
  - How is it not treason? From Article 3:  bhikkhu   Oct-01-11 06:08 PM   #76 
  - what part of "aid and comfort to the enemy" don't you understand?  Old Troop   Oct-01-11 07:56 PM   #88 
  - So what terrorist attacks did Anwar Al-Awlaki organize and direct in the United States?  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 11:31 AM   #8 
  - Our criminal justice system was not put together for boy scouts  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 11:35 AM   #11 
  - I think there are some people on this board that are so young  roguevalley   Oct-01-11 08:44 PM   #90 
  - But it IS possible to petition the Court...  bvar22   Oct-02-11 10:50 AM   #97 
  - You can have al-Awlaki. I'll stick with Obama. We'll see who gets farther.  YellowCosmicSun   Oct-01-11 11:25 AM   #3 
  - I'll defend our laws and the U.S. Constitution on this rather than President Obama.  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 11:34 AM   #9 
     - you would defend anything against Obama. that much is clear.  YellowCosmicSun   Oct-01-11 11:45 AM   #13 
     - I'm sure that President Obama is a very charming and likable person.  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 12:00 PM   #15 
     - Nobody's fooled.  YellowCosmicSun   Oct-01-11 12:12 PM   #18 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-01-11 12:19 PM   #22 
        - Correct - you've fooled nobody.  Melinda   Oct-01-11 01:25 PM   #46 
        - He's fooled himself.  girl gone mad   Oct-01-11 07:08 PM   #84 
        - Thank you.  Bobbie Jo   Oct-01-11 02:08 PM   #55 
     - How is it relevant whether one 'likes' the man or not?  girl gone mad   Oct-01-11 07:06 PM   #82 
     - +1000000000000000  Broderick   Oct-01-11 12:21 PM   #23 
     - + a zillion  emilyg   Oct-01-11 12:52 PM   #37 
     - I'm with you. n/t  dana_b   Oct-01-11 01:54 PM   #52 
     - a question of priorities  Supersedeas   Oct-01-11 04:01 PM   #66 
  - THe penalty for Treason is Death.  Pisces   Oct-01-11 11:26 AM   #4 
  - The penalty phase shouldn't precede the trial. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 11:30 AM   #6 
     - Thanks! I knew there was something...  Octafish   Oct-01-11 12:11 PM   #17 
     - Brilliantly and concisely statted.  truedelphi   Oct-01-11 05:29 PM   #71 
     - So as long as you have a private army and reside in a foreign country  bhikkhu   Oct-01-11 06:11 PM   #77 
  - Opinions on this seem to follow the Obama divide  PSPS   Oct-01-11 11:29 AM   #5 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-01-11 11:50 AM   #14 
  - Not true for me  Broderick   Oct-01-11 12:24 PM   #24 
  - That's a cute way to frame it  Hydra   Oct-01-11 02:48 PM   #59 
  - Yes, and that is a major problem.  Bonobo   Oct-01-11 07:10 PM   #85 
  - That Obama  treestar   Oct-01-11 11:30 AM   #7 
  - There is a possiblity  Broderick   Oct-01-11 12:25 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-01-11 11:35 AM   #10 
  - Right. Do you want a "pure" Bill of Rights with trials, juries, free speech and other stuff?  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 11:40 AM   #12 
  - You, I and all of the other posters have one luxury  Recovered Repug   Oct-01-11 12:05 PM   #16 
     - Good point. That must explain why Bush and Cheney remain free.  Octafish   Oct-01-11 12:13 PM   #19 
     - Is President Obama also assuming responsibility for undermining our Constitution and Bill of Rights?  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 12:15 PM   #20 
     - I imagine that, given the different options,  Recovered Repug   Oct-01-11 12:44 PM   #34 
        - And would have taken that option in either case  treestar   Oct-01-11 01:08 PM   #38 
        - President Obama shouldn't have the option to either defend or defy the U.S. Constitution  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 01:43 PM   #50 
           - Ideally that choice should never be an option.  Recovered Repug   Oct-01-11 02:14 PM   #56 
              - You prefer that the President uphold the Constitution when it's convenient? How liberal of you!  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 03:04 PM   #61 
                 - Would you risk your neck to capture him?  Recovered Repug   Oct-01-11 03:14 PM   #62 
                    - Yes. So what terrorist attacks did this guy organize? Be specific.  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 04:10 PM   #67 
                       - I said inspired attacks. Youtube videos available.  Recovered Repug   Oct-01-11 04:18 PM   #68 
                          - So which specific terrorist attacks on the homeland did he "inspire"?  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 06:18 PM   #79 
                             - We've been going around and around for a while  Recovered Repug   Oct-01-11 06:48 PM   #80 
                                - so where are the youtube links? you seem to have nothing but ignorance on your side  StarsInHerHair   Oct-01-11 07:48 PM   #87 
                                - So you can't find any terrorist attacks that you allege he inspired.  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 09:06 PM   #91 
                                   - Odd, anyone with a little effort could have found the following:  Recovered Repug   Oct-02-11 09:22 AM   #92 
                                      - So you're basing your evidence on a secret government memo you've never read!!!!  Better Believe It   Oct-02-11 09:37 AM   #94 
     - Jack Nicholson delivered this line better.  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-01-11 05:31 PM   #72 
  - I consider "purist" an epithet the same as "nigger" or any other  LWolf   Oct-02-11 09:40 AM   #96 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-01-11 12:17 PM   #21 
  - oh yeah. they're all over this.  ixion   Oct-01-11 12:27 PM   #28 
  - Blind support is easy  Broderick   Oct-01-11 12:27 PM   #29 
  - Yes, he did. k/r  ixion   Oct-01-11 12:25 PM   #25 
  - Why not ask the congress to impeach Obama?  Progressive dog   Oct-01-11 12:26 PM   #27 
  - The Constitution isn't, but the Bush Doctrine most certainly is  ixion   Oct-01-11 12:28 PM   #30 
  - Boner is the speaker now  treestar   Oct-01-11 01:09 PM   #40 
  - "The Constitution is not a suicide pact."  RetroLounge   Oct-01-11 12:29 PM   #31 
  - This Congress would be willing to do it, too  treestar   Oct-01-11 01:09 PM   #39 
  - When you cut through all the bull shit  RSillsbee   Oct-01-11 12:29 PM   #32 
  - Human rights are not limited to people who like you and whom you like. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 01:12 PM   #41 
     - Very true  RSillsbee   Oct-01-11 02:45 PM   #58 
        - Don't weep for people who make bad choices unless they make bad choices  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 05:52 PM   #74 
           - I'm not trying to be a prick about this  RSillsbee   Oct-01-11 07:03 PM   #81 
              - It's okay if we disagree.  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 07:08 PM   #83 
  - Yes. But, extrajudiciial killing of Americans accompanied by flag waving is a good campaign move.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-01-11 12:34 PM   #33 
  - The president had sufficient legal authority under the 2001 AUMF to carry out the operation.  tritsofme   Oct-01-11 12:46 PM   #35 
  - That's not settled, no. He claims he does. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 01:13 PM   #42 
     - The law calls for the president to make the determination.  tritsofme   Oct-01-11 01:18 PM   #44 
        - That happens to be wrong. You should go see what  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 01:20 PM   #45 
           - The case was dismissed for lack of standing.  tritsofme   Oct-01-11 01:32 PM   #47 
              - The court said this case raised very serious questions.  EFerrari   Oct-01-11 01:39 PM   #49 
  - quick question: does the due process have to be in an US court, or can it be in the court of another  Bodhi BloodWave   Oct-01-11 12:47 PM   #36 
  - It depends if one is referencing U.S. Constitutional Due Process  Melinda   Oct-01-11 01:38 PM   #48 
     - could one not argue that he was tried in Yemen(which i'm quite sure he was)  Bodhi BloodWave   Oct-01-11 01:55 PM   #53 
        - I've not seen proof he was tried in Yemen, but that argument could be asserted.  Melinda   Oct-01-11 02:05 PM   #54 
        - Yeah, sure, US should now ask all the "friendly" regimes in the world  Fool Count   Oct-01-11 07:16 PM   #86 
           - Do you consider Saudi Arabia to be a "friendly" regime with "friendly" anti-terrorist rulers?  Better Believe It   Oct-02-11 09:31 AM   #93 
              - Did you take my suggestion seriously?  Fool Count   Oct-02-11 06:36 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-01-11 01:17 PM   #43 
  - ...  dionysus   Oct-01-11 03:17 PM   #65 
  - Nonsense. It's just like a SWAT team.  gulliver   Oct-01-11 01:47 PM   #51 
  - What of the innocents?  zalinda   Oct-01-11 02:27 PM   #57 
  - I don't know the answer to your question.  gulliver   Oct-01-11 02:48 PM   #60 
     - The Bush Doctrine is OK if it's implemented by a Democratic President  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 03:16 PM   #64 
        - You sound like Sister Sarah now, this wasn't part of the Bush Doctrine.  Major Hogwash   Oct-01-11 05:53 PM   #75 
           - So you think this is a new doctrine? You may be right. What would you call it?  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 06:14 PM   #78 
  - Do SWAT teams used predator drones? When did that start?  Better Believe It   Oct-01-11 03:15 PM   #63 
     - When Obama doesn't want to look like he is starting another war. n/t  zalinda   Oct-01-11 05:12 PM   #69 
  - It's hard for me to rejoice over the death of any human being  Dragonbreathp9d   Oct-01-11 05:23 PM   #70 
  - Thank you. I just cannot believe how this is bringing out the true colors of people.  Gregorian   Oct-01-11 05:38 PM   #73 
  - Anwar al-Awlaki vs. Kamal Derwish  ProSense   Oct-01-11 08:01 PM   #89 
  - Is it time to throw the ACLU under the bus? What the hell do they know about the Constitution?  Better Believe It   Oct-02-11 09:40 AM   #95 
 

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