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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 12:42 PM
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5. Apple donated 9000 iPads to TFA teachers.
Edited on Fri Sep-30-11 12:50 PM by madfloridian
When people got upset, they played down their efforts, even took some of it off their website...but they still gave iPads only to TFAers not public school teachers.

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  -Teach for America....its "Savior" syndrome is harming public education. madfloridian  Sep-30-11 12:17 PM   #0 
  - 5 weeks training and they're replacing teachers?  polly7   Sep-30-11 12:24 PM   #1 
  - It is being applauded by both parties now. And Arne supports TFA.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 12:29 PM   #3 
  - I don't want to offend anyone and apologize if it seems I am, but we  polly7   Oct-01-11 10:09 AM   #42 
  - There is no answer as to why this is good.... because it isn't good.  Owl   Oct-02-11 12:38 PM   #82 
  - It's a cheap thing  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-01-11 09:08 AM   #40 
  - Exactamundo  BobbyBoring   Oct-01-11 02:53 PM   #55 
  - 4 years of liberal arts, 2 years graduate degree in elementary education,  no_hypocrisy   Oct-03-11 07:52 AM   #88 
  - it's cheaper to hire college grads than pay teachers for their experience  wordpix   Oct-03-11 08:45 AM   #89 
  - Nice White Lady Saves Us All  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-30-11 12:26 PM   #2 
  - No one thinks that video funnier than my stepdaughter, who IS a nice white lady working in Oakland  saras   Oct-02-11 12:29 PM   #81 
  - a bad idea from Apple  quitnesset   Sep-30-11 12:38 PM   #4 
  - Apple donated 9000 iPads to TFA teachers.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 12:42 PM   #5 
     - In our district those iPads are able to access the school wifi  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-01-11 09:07 AM   #39 
        - That IS insulting. I agree 100%.  madfloridian   Oct-01-11 10:31 AM   #43 
  - More actual data on TFA effectiveness.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 01:56 PM   #6 
  - Retention is a problem for credentialed teachers too.  ellisonz   Oct-03-11 06:04 PM   #98 
  - So much for teaching as a career.  KamaAina   Sep-30-11 02:09 PM   #7 
  - Yep, the goal of TFA and other reformers is to make teachers cheaper.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 03:25 PM   #8 
  - TFA pays the same wage as a starting teacher's salary.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 06:32 PM   #11 
     - They are replacing long time teachers who need those jobs.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 06:46 PM   #12 
     - Cuts are being made anyways.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 07:14 PM   #16 
        - I blame a private group that disses teachers and takes their jobs.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 07:19 PM   #18 
           - You don't like the program. I get it. I think we ought to invest more in education in general.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 07:28 PM   #21 
              - Don't throw out experience tenured teacher for Wendy Kopp's "corps"  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 07:51 PM   #25 
                 - Blame Republicans.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 08:31 PM   #28 
                    - No, not just Republicans. Obama is pushing Bush's policies through...  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 08:38 PM   #29 
                    - I'm for sacking Arne.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 08:55 PM   #34 
                       - I want young people to have opportunities. Just not on the backs of good teachers.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 09:30 PM   #37 
                       - See we agree. Our enemy is the same...  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:41 PM   #70 
                       - Then you're for scrapping TFA, right?  Occulus   Oct-03-11 09:58 AM   #94 
                       - I'm scrapping for both TFA and for a better unionized public education system.  ellisonz   Oct-03-11 05:57 PM   #97 
                       - All teachers start out as young people. Why not properly train them  sabrina 1   Oct-05-11 02:19 AM   #107 
                    - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Oct-01-11 08:57 PM   #60 
     - Then the TFA ers get laid off, and more of them are hired....  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 06:48 PM   #13 
     - Fail.  theaocp   Sep-30-11 06:50 PM   #14 
     - Then what are young people supposed to do?  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 07:13 PM   #15 
        - Oh, my...so the young people shove out the older people? You think so?  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 07:20 PM   #19 
        - That's not what I said.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 07:29 PM   #22 
        - What I don't understand  MH1   Oct-01-11 10:34 AM   #44 
           - They are replacing experienced teachers because they have the power.  madfloridian   Oct-01-11 11:11 AM   #46 
           - Then why not fight the people who have been underfunding our schools for the last...  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:32 PM   #63 
           - Thank you!  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:39 PM   #69 
              - Of course!  chervilant   Oct-05-11 01:40 AM   #105 
        - Um, go to college and become a teacher, like me?  theaocp   Sep-30-11 07:27 PM   #20 
        - Remember emergency credentialing?  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 07:31 PM   #23 
        - I have many friends who were experienced tenured teachers.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 07:50 PM   #24 
        - I'm not. I'm defending young people wanting to serve their communities.  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 08:31 PM   #27 
           - So do mature and experienced teachers. They had major cuts as well.  madfloridian   Sep-30-11 08:43 PM   #32 
              - Exactly. Something it was not intended to be...  ellisonz   Sep-30-11 08:56 PM   #35 
        - Emergency credentials reflect a shortage. You can get an  roody   Sep-30-11 08:39 PM   #30 
           - I had several teachers in high school during the first half of the last decade...  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:34 PM   #65 
        - Well said. +1  Owl   Oct-02-11 12:43 PM   #83 
        - Well forgive me for not being willing to give them MY job.  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-01-11 12:38 PM   #48 
           - Absolutely.  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:33 PM   #64 
              - And I know for a fact it has no value for our children  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-01-11 10:45 PM   #72 
                 - That may have been your experience....  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 11:23 PM   #75 
     - My district fired 80 experienced teachers to make room for TFA  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-01-11 09:13 AM   #41 
     - That is shocking.  madfloridian   Oct-01-11 11:13 AM   #47 
     - + 1 million  WildEyedLiberal   Oct-03-11 12:44 AM   #85 
     - The key word there is "starting".  KamaAina   Oct-01-11 12:59 PM   #49 
     - And they fire the tenured teachers anyway...  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 02:29 PM   #51 
        - There would be money if it were given a priority in this country.  madfloridian   Oct-01-11 02:33 PM   #52 
        - Well, durn...  chervilant   Oct-01-11 09:13 PM   #61 
           - You're being disrespectful.  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:35 PM   #66 
              - How do you think the laid-off teachers feel when TFA is hired in their place???  madfloridian   Oct-02-11 12:12 AM   #77 
              - Pissed off. But it's not TFA forcing budget crunches...  ellisonz   Oct-02-11 01:27 AM   #78 
                 - It is TFA causing the firings and layoffs in many cases.  madfloridian   Oct-02-11 11:27 AM   #80 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-03-11 10:01 AM   #95 
              - hmm...  chervilant   Oct-03-11 07:43 AM   #86 
                 - I was one of those students...  ellisonz   Oct-03-11 07:17 PM   #101 
                    - hmm...  chervilant   Oct-05-11 01:24 AM   #103 
        - hmm...  chervilant   Oct-05-11 01:31 AM   #104 
     - Ask The Average Corp Member How Long They Intend To Stay With It?  NashVegas   Oct-01-11 02:34 PM   #53 
        - Here:  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:36 PM   #67 
  - +1  LWolf   Sep-30-11 07:14 PM   #17 
  - It's Like Mao Tse Tung's Cultural Revolution, Which Set China Back By A Generation or Two  Demeter   Sep-30-11 05:46 PM   #9 
  - I'm still reading. Keep up the good work.  cachukis   Sep-30-11 06:00 PM   #10 
  - I wonder if the TFA kiddies know that they're....  radhika   Sep-30-11 08:21 PM   #26 
  - Unfortunately they are also scabs.  roody   Sep-30-11 08:41 PM   #31 
  - I think some are catching on.  madfloridian   Oct-03-11 05:21 PM   #96 
  - This gives me an idea  izquierdista   Sep-30-11 08:46 PM   #33 
  - I've owned pets for years. I am going to be a vet.  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-01-11 02:21 PM   #50 
     - Oh, yeah?!  chervilant   Oct-01-11 09:14 PM   #62 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Sep-30-11 09:19 PM   #36 
  - Many of these students from elite colleges have never met a poor person before.  Kat45   Sep-30-11 11:29 PM   #38 
  - Have you ever heard of financial aid and student loans?  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 09:45 PM   #71 
     - Yes, I have, but a majority of the kids in these schools are well off.  Kat45   Oct-01-11 11:03 PM   #73 
        - Of course...  ellisonz   Oct-01-11 11:27 PM   #76 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Oct-01-11 11:08 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-01-11 02:38 PM   #54 
  - My personal but non-TFA e.g.: Principal hired new (but experienced) teachers; told us we could learn  WinkyDink   Oct-01-11 03:09 PM   #56 
  - I have 30 years experience in my field and they day  whistler162   Oct-01-11 04:16 PM   #58 
     - I think the poster refers to attitude of the replacements .  madfloridian   Oct-01-11 07:15 PM   #59 
     - I guess you don't grasp the concept of "gratuitous insult." Funny how the other dame wasn't expected  WinkyDink   Oct-01-11 09:38 PM   #68 
  - And for another thing: IT IS NOT ABOUT STUDENTS. It is about TFA $$$, and resumes.  WinkyDink   Oct-01-11 03:13 PM   #57 
  - If TFA is so much better....why does Bill Gates give them earpieces to be talked through lessons?  madfloridian   Oct-01-11 11:07 PM   #74 
  - I could not agree with this more. TFA is all about bolstering the resume for law school  WildEyedLiberal   Oct-02-11 01:42 AM   #79 
  - I agree. A "resume builder."  madfloridian   Oct-02-11 03:01 PM   #84 
  - wow, that's exactly what one of the TFA's I worked with did  wordpix   Oct-03-11 08:49 AM   #90 
  - Rich spoiled elites with expensive educations  Generic Other   Oct-03-11 07:48 AM   #87 
  - my experience w/ TFA - one person good, another not, both left after a year  wordpix   Oct-03-11 09:00 AM   #91 
  - It's the same with all people...  ellisonz   Oct-03-11 07:03 PM   #99 
  - too late to recommend, but a hearty kick  fishwax   Oct-03-11 09:31 AM   #92 
  - and kick again  dembotoz   Oct-03-11 09:52 AM   #93 
  - And what if they're better -- or if some of them are better?  Cats Against Frist   Oct-03-11 07:16 PM   #100 
     - I don't think you are aware they are firing GOOD teachers as well.  madfloridian   Oct-03-11 08:06 PM   #102 
     - WHAT?!?  chervilant   Oct-05-11 01:52 AM   #106 
 

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