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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 07:12 AM
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76. But plumbers and electricians still work, even without construction
Homes need maintenance forever. My plumber seems to be here at our house just about every other week -- when he can find the time to squeeze us in between the dozens of other calls he's running off to.
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  -And once every child in America gets a college education, what then? kentuck  Sep-30-11 07:04 AM   #0 
  - Takes two years of college to get the same job I was doing while I was still in high school  NNN0LHI   Sep-30-11 07:09 AM   #1 
  - Just saw a sign in the window of our local linen store. Admin. Asst.  monmouth   Sep-30-11 07:59 AM   #36 
  - See my post below  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 11:55 AM   #62 
     - Just read your great post and think you are right. n/t  monmouth   Sep-30-11 12:36 PM   #64 
  - At least we'll be able to all discuss Baudelier while waiting in the unemployment line n/t  Nuclear Unicorn   Sep-30-11 01:36 PM   #70 
  - Community College is nothing but a job vocation degree.  icymist   Oct-02-11 05:17 AM   #79 
  - Then, after investing those huge sums, and going into debt,  LWolf   Sep-30-11 07:09 AM   #2 
  - Then your job will involve "You want fries with that?" but you'll have a degree.  hobbit709   Sep-30-11 07:11 AM   #3 
  - It teaches you how to THINK.  Zoeisright   Sep-30-11 07:12 AM   #4 
  - don't bet on that  hobbit709   Sep-30-11 07:14 AM   #5 
  - You have a good point, but you express it badly  david_vincent   Sep-30-11 08:51 AM   #47 
  - Well put  XemaSab   Sep-30-11 10:48 AM   #54 
  - As a veteran of college teaching, I can tell you that as of 1993, the last year I was involved,  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 11:56 AM   #63 
  - Think of which Fraternity to join, the ones with the best cheat sheets  formercia   Sep-30-11 07:30 AM   #17 
  - "Cacademia" ROFL, you owe me a new keyboard!  Odin2005   Sep-30-11 07:42 AM   #30 
  - YOu can't teach someone with a 90 IQ to THINK  AngryAmish   Sep-30-11 07:51 AM   #33 
  - Hey, I don't want someone with a 90 IQ  XemaSab   Sep-30-11 11:10 AM   #55 
  - Better to give the 90 iq individual a job without any tangible risks, like shuffling paper. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-30-11 11:42 AM   #60 
  - A 90 IQ is only slightly less than average.  surrealAmerican   Sep-30-11 01:33 PM   #68 
  - Which is great...if you have the privilege of time, aptitude, and money for college.  Lyric   Sep-30-11 08:36 AM   #44 
  - The fact that this is a widespread argument, is itself a strong argument for the opposite.  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-30-11 11:13 AM   #56 
  - Right! It made me learn to teach myself!  icymist   Oct-02-11 05:21 AM   #80 
  - Bait and switch  get the red out   Sep-30-11 07:15 AM   #6 
  - yep, classic american  iemitsu   Sep-30-11 07:37 AM   #26 
  - They become 99% ers and join the Wall Street protest.  gordianot   Sep-30-11 07:16 AM   #7 
  - I wish more would go into the trades like plumbing  mainer   Sep-30-11 07:17 AM   #8 
  - Donna and I used to joke about that.  hobbit709   Sep-30-11 07:19 AM   #10 
  - I think in the USA there is the idea that learning a skill such as plumbing or becoming an  raccoon   Sep-30-11 07:25 AM   #14 
  - Exactly, it's some kind of "status" thing  get the red out   Sep-30-11 08:53 AM   #48 
  - This is why democracy works  Yo_Mama   Sep-30-11 07:27 AM   #16 
  - Of course more plumbers would force that wage down  exboyfil   Sep-30-11 07:37 AM   #27 
  - My daughter wanted Art (not much earning power there)  woodsprite   Sep-30-11 08:31 AM   #41 
  - You can't outsource a plumber or electrician's job to India. (n/t)  spin   Sep-30-11 07:56 AM   #34 
  - Trades are not valued, labor is not valued  Bosso 63   Sep-30-11 07:58 AM   #35 
  - Looking back  xmas74   Sep-30-11 08:57 AM   #49 
  - I strongly recommend the book "shop class as soulcraft". n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-30-11 11:15 AM   #57 
  - The construction trades where I live are all hurting badly..  Fumesucker   Oct-01-11 05:05 AM   #75 
     - But plumbers and electricians still work, even without construction  mainer   Oct-01-11 07:12 AM   #76 
        - Repairing/renovation is not the same as new construction.  Fumesucker   Oct-02-11 04:53 AM   #78 
  - so true, so true, ... as i look toward college tuition in a couple years and the job market  seabeyond   Sep-30-11 07:19 AM   #9 
  - Maybe they'll finally get your order right at Taco Bell. nt  michreject   Sep-30-11 07:20 AM   #11 
  - A can of Pepsi. With 75 cents, of course.  HughBeaumont   Sep-30-11 07:21 AM   #12 
  - It also denigrates other types of education  Yo_Mama   Sep-30-11 07:25 AM   #13 
  - well, the ideal of course  barbtries   Sep-30-11 07:26 AM   #15 
  - That's easy enough .....  H2O Man   Sep-30-11 07:32 AM   #18 
  - A Bachelor's Degree has become what a high school diploma was 60 years ago.  Odin2005   Sep-30-11 07:32 AM   #19 
  - True.  H2O Man   Sep-30-11 07:34 AM   #21 
  - But a high school degree didn't leave you or your parents  Fla Dem   Sep-30-11 07:48 AM   #31 
     - True.  Odin2005   Sep-30-11 08:02 AM   #37 
  - Then a degree will be worth next to nothing  IndyPragmatist   Sep-30-11 07:33 AM   #20 
  - I wonder about the smaller midwest state schools  exboyfil   Sep-30-11 07:49 AM   #32 
  - we will be known the world over for our SUPER-INTELLIGENT unemployment lines........  piratefish08   Sep-30-11 07:35 AM   #22 
  - master's degree's are near worthless today with no fucking jobs............  piratefish08   Sep-30-11 07:36 AM   #23 
  - That is not possible.  TheManInTheMac   Sep-30-11 07:36 AM   #24 
  - Then it will be something else that one needs to get  The2ndWheel   Sep-30-11 07:36 AM   #25 
  - Look at it this way...  Javaman   Sep-30-11 07:40 AM   #28 
  - then we will have doctors, teachers, architects, engineers, public health  KurtNYC   Sep-30-11 07:41 AM   #29 
  - We are Seriously Snobbish  malthaussen   Sep-30-11 08:11 AM   #39 
     - i think vocational schools are looking pretty good these days  KurtNYC   Sep-30-11 08:37 AM   #45 
  - i subscribe to the notion that knowledge is power  iemitsu   Sep-30-11 08:07 AM   #38 
  - Educating kids to be good corporate worker bees will  katsy   Sep-30-11 08:21 AM   #40 
  - It's part of the good life  treestar   Sep-30-11 08:32 AM   #42 
  - We need jobs that can support a decent living WITHOUT a college degree.  Lyric   Sep-30-11 08:35 AM   #43 
  - I think one of the strongest programs  LanternWaste   Sep-30-11 08:47 AM   #46 
  - In order to get every child in America a college education, the college standards would have to be  Cal33   Sep-30-11 09:11 AM   #50 
  - I don't agree that the average student can't pass the exams  XemaSab   Sep-30-11 11:25 AM   #59 
     - The average student will not be able to graduate college with degrees in the subjects I  Cal33   Oct-02-11 08:08 AM   #83 
  - We will have college educated bus drivers and janitors. nt  hack89   Sep-30-11 09:29 AM   #51 
  - A college degree doesn't matter -- the college, major, GPA, faculty recommendations, work record do  FarCenter   Sep-30-11 10:31 AM   #52 
  - once everyone had a degree, the credential needed for a 'good job' increases to an MA  Liberal_in_LA   Sep-30-11 10:32 AM   #53 
  - Everyone behaves as if they wish to be an english professor.  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-30-11 11:20 AM   #58 
     - exactly.  Liberal_in_LA   Sep-30-11 01:34 PM   #69 
  - College isn't for everyone, and educational requirements can be artificial barriers  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-30-11 11:54 AM   #61 
  - Maybe an educated population would demand that they receive the productive gains for their labor  Taitertots   Sep-30-11 12:43 PM   #65 
  - Logic problem: right now, the population has more education than ever before, and yet...  Romulox   Sep-30-11 12:53 PM   #67 
     - There is also inequality in education....  Taitertots   Sep-30-11 02:13 PM   #72 
  - Then, the Federal Government imports millions of people willing to work cheaper than you.  Romulox   Sep-30-11 12:52 PM   #66 
  - Many of them would have the tools to create jobs and invent things and  lunatica   Sep-30-11 01:36 PM   #71 
  - They will work service industry, like me  Dragonbreathp9d   Sep-30-11 06:40 PM   #73 
  - Then we all live in Lake Wobegon--  eridani   Oct-01-11 02:46 AM   #74 
  - That's Easy, We'll Just Build Super Colleges  wellst0nev0ter   Oct-01-11 07:33 AM   #77 
  - More blather.  WinkyDink   Oct-02-11 05:28 AM   #81 
  - Education is not the problem  quaker bill   Oct-02-11 06:21 AM   #82 
  - We are going to have a lot of over-educated Walmart greeters. nt  TBF   Oct-02-11 08:44 AM   #84 
 

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